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[Dont Kaidan Me]

Well if you wanna believe in magical stats, a whopping 13% of gamers play a default character. And 18% of that 13% plays a default female character. Well aren't I just bowled over. And the press is totally deceptive, because it just highlights the 18% part of it, leading one to make different assumptions.

But as I was verifying that, I read this...
On the sexuality of women in the game, Silverman defended the gratuitous shots of crew member Miranda's bottom as necessary for her character.

"The fact is, some characters are defined by their attractiveness, such as a woman who is genetically engineered to be perfect," Silverman declared.

"Camera angles help tell the story and portray key aspects of each character - in Miranda's case, her curves and sexuality.

"We had similar shots of Jacob," he added.

That last part. Oh, so funny. I didn't catch those shots. And Jacob is smooth as a ken doll anyhow.

[luzburg]

i always used the me1/2 default femshep and recreated the best i culd in me3. the new default is just pure crap

[Taboo]

I don't play as FemShep!

I don't see what the issue is.

Everyone seems to use custom faces anyway.

Jacob did have those shots. How could you NOT notice?

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 23 mai 2012 - 03:09 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

They did have similar shots of Jacob, though they were fewer and far less blatant. Thye were still annoying.

And Silverman knows that is utter sh*te. He would have an argument if he commented on her garb, which makes sense for her character (less so in combat, however). But having the camera linger on her body whilst she rails against her lifelong treatment as a tool or a means to an end? That is counterproductive.

I actually thought the arse attacks were mildly funny my first few times through, but trying to claim such blatant fanservice is a "narrative tool"...Surely better lies could be thought up than that.

Jacob did have those shots. How could you NOT notice?

I didn't notice my first two or three runs, I admit it. Might be correlated with the fact I generally avoided him, though.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 23 mai 2012 - 03:12 .

[XxI EpiK IxX]

GreenFlag wrote...



so that is cool

Is that the same one

[Taboo]

Random Jerkface wrote...

They did have similar shots of Jacob, though they were fewer and far less blatant. The were still annoying.

And Silverman knows that is utter sh*te. He would have an argument if he commented on her garb, which makes sense for her character (less so in combat, however). But having the camera linger on her body whilst she rails against her lifelong treatment as a tool or a means to an end? That is counterproductive.

I actually thought the arse attacks were mildly funny my first few times through, but trying to claim such blatant fanservice is a "narrative tool"...Surely better lies could be thought up than that.

Jacob did have those shots. How could you NOT notice?

I didn't notice m first two or three runs, I admit it. Might be correlated with the fact I generally avoided him, though.

Actually it is.

I harken back to film studies.

Woman in general are framed in one of three ways.

The face:

The backside:

Or from the breasts up.
 
Depending on where you frame the shot, you can make an assesment of where the chracter stands.

When framed from below, you assign importance to the character, that is to say you assign power. You "look up" at them. Miranda is an overbearing presence in the game and the shots reflect that. Ever notice how she is framed from the chest up? That's a neutral position. When her face is framed you are supposed to pay attention to her and her alone.

That's what it means.

Her outfit is what gets people riled up because it's so tight, and in that regard I shake my finger at Bioware.

[vixvicco]

I always customize.

[Dont Kaidan Me]

Here's another comparison:

[GreyLycanTrope]

to be fair the in game model doesn't do much justice to the original art design.

Also I customize anyway so whatever.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 23 mai 2012 - 03:47 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Actually it is.

I'm not contending that they can be used in such a manner. They often are. What I do dispute is that this was BioWare's intention.

[Taboo]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Actually it is.

I'm not contending that they can be used in such a manner. They often are. What I do dispute is that this was BioWare's intention.

The only reason put any meaning to it is because of the suit she wears.

Women are framed that way in films.

All. The. Time.

And so are men.

[FOX216BC]

GreenFlag wrote...



awesome!

No matter how good Shep looks we all get royaly F****D at the end.

[The Angry One]

I think we can all agree that default Shepards need indoctrinated eyes, because indoctrinated eyes make everything better.



See? Better.

[Taboo]

I wish I had a PC that wasn't sh*t.

Mods would be so much fun.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Taboo-XX wrote...


The only reason put any meaning to it is because of the suit she wears.

Is this not the point I was making? I apologise if I wasn't clear.

[Taboo]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...


The only reason put any meaning to it is because of the suit she wears.

Is this not the point I was making? I apologise if I wasn't clear.

No, I thought you were frustrated about just having her backside being framed the way it was.

I don't really care about the way her backside is framed though, I just really like the character.

[Lyrebon]

My Chinese-American is why I never use defaults - she's hot.

[Dont Kaidan Me]

The Angry One wrote...

I think we can all agree that default Shepards need indoctrinated eyes, because indoctrinated eyes make everything better.

**indoctrination removed**

See? Better.

It really does. I wish you could do mods on consoles

[What a Succulent Ass]

You can if you play on Xbox.

[billywaffles]

Dont Kaidan Me wrote...

So this is the result of a democratic society, huh?

FemShep appears "off" to me compared to BroShep. I couldn't figure out what it was, until I discovered this:

/facepalm

Femshep is a neanderthal, ashley is a travesti... I wonder what will be your next topic, "Has Hacket Down Syndrome"?

[What a Succulent Ass]

No, but he might be suffering from Sudden Incompetence Syndrome.

[AkodoRyu]

Greylycantrope wrote...

to be fair the in game model doesn't do much justice to the original art design.

Also I customize anyway so whatever.

To be fair, the game doesn't do much justice to the model itself. But in the end it's all a matter of personal preference.

[mjh417]

The ME3 default femshep I always thought looked too cartoony and oddly shaped. HEr make up is also awful. Sheploo looks like a real person (cause he is) and Default FemShep looks like an ugly game character and not at all even like the other ugly game characters that make up most of ME's human population. She's a creature of her own.

[Dont Kaidan Me]

Random Jerkface wrote...

You can if you play on Xbox.

...Shows how much I know. Guess I'll have to root around the interwebz and learn a thing or two.

billywaffles wrote...
/facepalm

Femshep is a neanderthal, ashley is a travesti... I wonder what will be your next topic, "Has Hacket Down Syndrome"?

No. The next one will be "Why Are Fans So Uppity?"

Modifié par Dont Kaidan Me, 23 mai 2012 - 04:40 .

[mjh417]

GreenFlag wrote...



awesome!

If I was playing FemShep, this would be my FemShep. She's gorgeous and she does definitely look like Emma Stone.