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Operation Shieldwall Weekend May 25-27


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#226
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To everyone in this topic posting something along the lines of "LOL @ W/G/G farmers, can't wait to see the banshees get you!":

Banshees are even less of a threat when using the FBW farming tactic than the Geth enemies are, owing to the fact that they can't get over the desk that everybody hides behind during the match. This isn't going to make the tiniest bit of difference to anyone who farms that setup.

They're not going to be as screwed as you guys seem to think.


Just try playing Reapers with FBW farming tactic.


I already have, and it's proven no more difficult. Everything just walks right up to the desk. Anything that can be grabbed gets grabbed, anything that can't just stands behind the desk and gets destroyed.

In some ways it's probably even easier, since Ravagers keep their distance, and Brutes & Banshees just stay at the front of the desk and are pretty harmless. Throw in the fact that there aren't any cloaked annoyances to worry about, and the only things that makes it a touch more difficult is if you get a badly placed Hack/Upload objective on Wave 10, or if a Cannibal lobs a grenade behind the desk. As the waves go on though, the number of Cannibals gets reduced, and the only thing you have to worry about later is a horribly placed Hack/Upload.

I think I'd prefer to farm W/R/G, actually. I'll take Banshees over Hunters and Pyros any day of the week.

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Great, gonna level up right now, so I can promote at least 1 this weekend.

Banshees with Cerberus/Geth. That I MUST see.

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Hiero Glyph wrote...

Wow, everyone is making it sound like FBWGG is going to be difficult now that there is a chance a Banshee could spawn. Seriously?! Just rocket her and be done with it. As there is a small chance she will spawn it's not like it will matter when she eventually does. Many in this thread have no idea what they are talking about if they think that a Banshee or two will even matter. Typical for these forums I guess.


Personally, I think "More Banshees on Reapers" sucks more than "some Banshees on Geth and Cerberus."  When you play with randoms, the late waves against Reapers can be stressful already.

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Merkit91 wrote...

Banshees might spawn with Cerberus? Looks like it's time to use QI. Who will win - sabotaged atlas or banshee?


Omg imagine how awesome it would be to see the Atlas sync-kill the banshee!!

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Klokateer wrote...

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Sorry, it is not logical to conclude that "most people have all their rares maxed out". Assuming the RNG gods are with you and ony PSPs are unclocked, it would, at best, take some 7,000,000 credits to do that (or you could be very rich). With a farming approach and assuming you promote, I struggle to see how all rares would be maxed below an N7 of 500 and if other packs are unlocked, or character cards unclocked, it could be N7 1,000 or more before all are unclocked. 

I would estimate only 5% of players, at best, have all their rares maxed. Just look at the leaderboard - many posters here will be right up the top.

I can understand this misunderstanding because the BSN attracts more accomplished (a.k.a. Elite) gamers to post, so more players appear maxed and so the perception is that this is true of most players.

What's going on here is a bit like the 'False-Consensus Effect': http://en.wikipedia....onsensus_effect


Assuming you've been playing ME3 regularily since release day, all your rares should be unlocked.  Unless you're doing it wrong and not making enough credits to buy the packs.  I had all my rares maxed prior to Resurgence and then it only took me about a week to max all my Resurgence weapons.  And I don't play all day, everyday.  Now I'm playing about once a week, if that.  It won't take me long to max whatever new DLC weapons get released considering they'll be the only unlocks I need other than ultra rares.

Are you not playing very often?  Not playing gold (for max credit reward)?  Even with character cards screwing me fairly often, maxing my rares wasn't all that difficult.

EDIT: I should add, my N7 rating has been 360 for a while now and kinda has nothing to do with my unlocks (I don't understand the implication that N7 rating relates to rare weapon unlocks).

EDIT-EDIT: I should also add that I haven't spent any real money on packs.


You're assuming that most people regularly play and complete wave 10 of gold, which isn't the case. Most of the player base plays/succeeds on bronze/silver, where the credit rewards are significantly less. Then there's the factor of time. Elite players can complete gold matches within a reasonable amount of time, say 20-30 minutes. Less skilled players, even if they manage to get deep into a gold match, may be looking at upwards of 35-40 minutes by the end of wave 11, which is a less favorable credit:time ratio and may discourage them from continuing to play gold matches. There are also people for whom playing gold is unpleasant and stressful and who are more interested in playing for enjoyment than credits. The pressure from other profit-minded players in gold lobbies to run the most efficient/widely approved of builds contributes to this. Furthermore, succeeding on gold is much easier with a regular/communicating team, which may be hard to organize if one does not frequent social sites like this one. Then there are more minor factors, like the vagaries of the RNG system and character cards, network latency which is particularly problematic on gold, and constant EA server disconnects for numerous individuals.

Sorry, wall of text. But basically, I don't think the elite/pro/competitive ME3 multiplayer gamers who are so numerous on the BSN should extrapolate from their own experience to presume how the rest of the player base, which is much larger, less organized, less dedicated and (usually) less skilled, plays.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

I've seen a few people ask and the Operation Shieldwall will begin at 5pm PST on Friday.

Plan your characters accordingly.



:devil:


Thank you for clearing this up, Mr Priestly - for some reason, bioware blog tells that shieldwall would begin at 6 pm may 25.
When this operation will end?
And, also, what's the ETA on those reinforcements?

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I take it anyone with rares all maxed out won't get much out of the victory pack?

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Occasional Banshees during non reaper missions? Yes please.

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Link Ashland 614 wrote...

Banshees with Cerberus/Geth. That I MUST see.

Oh yes, I can see some deliciously paniced reactions when a Banshee suddenly lands in the middle of the camping room in FBWGG :o

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More Banshees on gold... damn, better buy a tent at Firebase White

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Doesn't this challenge weekend seem a little shorter then normal don't they end on a Monday

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mpompeo27 wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Banshees might spawn with Cerberus? Looks like it's time to use QI. Who will win - sabotaged atlas or banshee?


Omg imagine how awesome it would be to see the Atlas sync-kill the banshee!!


If someone pulls this off  they are obligated to take a screenshot and post it here!

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Lolz, Phantom mobs with Banshees sprinkled in ought to be interesting. The squad goal is also why I like to keep several characters near level 20 at any given time. So, that looks like a gimme!

Also, it's nice to see them recognizing the mediocrity of the victory packs. But, I'll definitely have all rares maxed by then so I could still care less.

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DoctorEss wrote...

Cybernetix646 wrote...

Bump that victory pack up to a definite rare, high chance of ultra rare and it will be perfect!

edit: just re-read it, seems that FBWGG is going to be royally screwed over by banshees when people are going to want to farm the hell out of it to get a vorcha when the dlc lands. Almost feel sorry for the non-forum users that will quickly close the weekend operation pop-up, jump into a game and come face to face with a banshee and atlas/prime double team
:devil:


You realize A: people playing differently than you, in a way Bioware has already said is legit doesn't affect you, right?  B: the "banshees with other stuff" is *only for the event weekend*.  Not forever.  C:  Most people that are prepping for the DLC have already farmed up tons of credits in anticipation of release anyway.


A: I farm. I never said anywhere that I have anything against it. it's a way of counteracting the annoying RNG in the store. I'm just thinking of the hilarity of a banshee rolling into my farm game where everyone is basically playing on autopilot and having a claw stabbed through their chests.
B: Again, I never said it wasn't. Posting in operation weekend thread = talking about the operation weekend.
C: People are still saving, you can never have enough credits. I know for a fact that I'm playing and hoarding credits right up till the release, and this event will add a bit of unpredictability to this weekend's games.

Roll on the banshee-phantom massacre!

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About time they started mixing up enemies. I wanna see the faces on FBWGG when a Banshee pops up.
Victory pack still sucks though. I have all rares at X already. Gimme an N7!

Modifié par wotmaniac, 23 mai 2012 - 07:22 .


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More banshees? and with Cerberus and Geth too? That's badass. It would be even more bad-ass if non-Reaper game Banshees attacked the enemy faction, too.

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So you just have to promote? If you have 3 Level 20 classes already when the Operation starts, you simply promote them and you're done? Am I missing something? What's the catch?

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Ibn_Shisha wrote...

Can't speak for adrest4, but I primarily play bronze, occasionally silver, and almost never gold.  I have been playing since release, but, well...

Manifest



I'd love to look at your manifest (sounds suggestive, eh?) but your profile is private.

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Rare guns in the victory pack? Hmm... I have all the rares. I just need the ultra-rares. Doesn't look like I will benefit from this operation. I'll participate, but I suspect I'll end up with another Eagle or a Crusader in my commendation pack, anything but the guns I want.

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soab, lol
i promoted two monday for no real reason but I was about to buy three or four psps and figured i'd get character cards too

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srgduck wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...
then again it is only 50000 which is not that much


They said that about the banshees


What.

NOBODY said that about Silencer.  Everyone knew from the beginning that 3 million was WAY too high with them being so rare on Bronze and Silver matches - which most people play - AND it being Mother's Day weekend so a lot of players were with their parents, not gaming the whole time.

We knew from the announcement that Silencer was 3 million banshees that it was a lost cause.

This is MUCH more reasonable and if we don't meet the reqs, it will be because a whole lot of people purposefully chose to not help.

Modifié par DragoGoldenwing, 23 mai 2012 - 07:27 .


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DragoGoldenwing wrote...

srgduck wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...
then again it is only 50000 which is not that much


They said that about the banshees


What.

NOBODY said that about Silencer.  Everyone knew from the beginning that 3 million was WAY too high with them being so rare on Bronze and Silver matches - which most people play - AND it being Mother's Day weekend so a lot of players were with their parents, not gaming the whole time.

We knew from the announcement that Silencer was 3 million banshees that it was a lost cause.

This is MUCH more reasonable and if we don't meet the reqs, it will be because a whole lot of people purposefully chose to not help.

exactly people knew we would fail

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This weekend op has "synergistic" objectives, ie the squad and community goals are completey linked. Before, all you need was an extraction or full extraction and then you could stop. Now, three promotions per person should make reaching the community goal a gimme even though there is till no incentive (victory pack still worthless).

Modifié par Creakazoid, 23 mai 2012 - 07:32 .


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this one's easy.

Can't wait to play however with the extra Banshee's:)

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5_Mania wrote...

Where does the storyline go if we fail this operation?


Vorcha have decided to join forces with the Reapers. They said they wanted to be on the winning side!