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[Drone696]

I've been banned two times.
Chicken with BBQ sauce and raw horsemeat.

[Sylvianus]

Once for three days by John Epler because I said : " If you think those people are all homophobe, then you are an idiot.

Not even a threat before like he should have done. 

Since this day, I think Epler is a bad moderator and he lost all my respect. 

I' am on this forum for a few years now, and I've seen much worse than " if you think this, then  you are an idiot ", without any ban.  lol. And he is not at all impartial.

I don't even know how many people on this forum have said to someone, you are stupid in a debate. Just.... No.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 24 mai 2012 - 02:44 .

[Ninja Stan]

Other people not being caught and/or punished means you didn't do anything wrong. It's so obvious.

Sorry, but that kind of logic simply doesn't fly with us.

[xsdob]

Not even once, though sometimes I don't even know how with the temperament I have.

[mousestalker]

Never been banned. Guess that means I'm not one of the cool kids. I'm comfortable with that. Most of the posting policies boil down to avoiding abuse and being polite. Rather hard to see what is wrong with either.

[Sylvianus]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Other people not being caught and/or punished means you didn't do anything wrong. It's so obvious.

Sorry, but that kind of logic simply doesn't fly with us.

I'm not idiot, Stan. I watch before talking. I watch where moderators are involved in discussions and I saw in these discussions many things much worse and they don't do anything or they just threat or lock topics without any ban.

And I 'm not saying I didn't do anything wrong, thank you, I 'm saying it didn't deserve a ban for three days without any threat before in a hot discussion where people on this forum were also insulted even if  it wasn't with rude words.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 24 mai 2012 - 03:04 .

[Ninja Stan]

Sylvianus wrote...

Ninja Stan wrote...

Other people not being caught and/or punished means you didn't do anything wrong. It's so obvious.

Sorry, but that kind of logic simply doesn't fly with us.

I'm not idiot, Stan. I watch before talking. I watch where moderators are involved in discussions and I saw in these discussions many things much worse and they don't do anything or they just threat or lock topics without any ban.

Many of the complaints similar to yours that I hear, I usually attribute to subjectivity. Because you feel other people are getting away with something while you are being punished for it.

I'm not saying that we Moderators will always catch every rules violation in our forums, but we do deal with a lot of troublemakers and rules violators complaining that "others are getting away with it," as if that somehow excuses them from breaking the rules themselves.

[Ninja Stan]

Logan Cloud wrote...

Ninja Stan wrote...

Other people not being caught and/or punished means you didn't do anything wrong. It's so obvious.

Sorry, but that kind of logic simply doesn't fly with us.

But the moderators (even you) are human beings, and sometimes they're having a crappy day, and ban someone for pretty stupid reasons because they have the option to abuse power when they're not happy.

I can accept this, but disagree that we "abuse power." We have only had one or two Moderators in the history of our online community that have actually "abused their power," and in both cases, the Moderator has been relieved of duty. In these cases, it's best to discuss things with the Moderator in question. We are very approachable. If the Moderator cannot be dealt with, you should message Chris Priestly, the forum's Community Coordinator.

I've not been banned. Many of my friends have been. Most of the time they've done nothing wrong.
 
A moderator is just like a police officer that writes a speeding ticket. Legally, you can write that ticket if they're going 1mph over the speed limit, but it's still a pretty crap-tastic thing to do.

No offense of course.

It's hard to not take offense when you're accusing us of abusing our power. In your example, the law is still being broken and the officer is well within his rights to write you a ticket for going even 1 mph over the speed limit. Just because you disagree with the enforcement of that law does not make it okay to break that law, nor does it make the officer wrong. Instead, the fact that most officers will let speeders slide if they go 4, 5, or even 10 mph over the limit should be praised, but you'll never hear drivers say nice things about being allowed to speed because they feel entitled to do so.

In my opinion, it's a "pretty crap-tastic thing to do" to expect officers to excuse your breaking of the law just because you disagree with it. Man, I feel like I used two whole paragraphs to say the exact same thing 4 or 5 times.

[Hyperglide]

Never been banned from any forum except for 1 when I was still somewhat new to the internet. Got into a flame war and I don't even remember what it was about. It was at the old diabloii.net boards though.

I have gotten an infraction here or there but hey no ones perfect and we all make stupid mistakes now and then.

Modifié par Hyperglide, 24 mai 2012 - 03:24 .

[Pacifien]

I had access to the ban hammer once. I was strict, and I advocated harder punishments to those I noticed were repeatedly being banned. However, I didn't read every single post made on every single forum in which I moderated, plus, as I am not a robot, subjectivity was going to be an ever-present accusation. And I still think many people thought I got paid to do the job, which is... no. No. Just no. Not even. No.

I thought I was fighting for people who wanted a more inviting environment in which to participate. I was wrong.

[Sylvianus]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Ninja Stan wrote...

Other people not being caught and/or punished means you didn't do anything wrong. It's so obvious.

Sorry, but that kind of logic simply doesn't fly with us.

I'm not idiot, Stan. I watch before talking. I watch where moderators are involved in discussions and I saw in these discussions many things much worse and they don't do anything or they just threat or lock topics without any ban.

Many of the complaints similar to yours that I hear, I usually attribute to subjectivity. Because you feel other people are getting away with something while you are being punished for it.

I'm not saying that we Moderators will always catch every rules violation in our forums, but we do deal with a lot of troublemakers and rules violators complaining that "others are getting away with it," as if that somehow excuses them from breaking the rules themselves.

I just believe in appropriate punishment, and not things that seem to take enormous proportions.

you know how this forum can be rude and insulting, that was the case for me. " if you think this, then you're stupid. " Does it really deserve a ban for three days ? I don't think so. There are many people who tell to other folks how they are idiots without using this word. We should ban them too in this case.

I know it was wrong but I am a human being like you when yourself as a moderator you could have some rude words for other people on this forum ( and i don't mean those vulgar ). I think it should have been just a warning and i would have immediately understood. I'm no child. I'm just saying that. I see everyday people using words with **** and they don't have any ban. Almost all the time on this forum I try to be civil, and to be banned for that, yes I was disguted. That was and that is just my feelings.

A ban is a serious matter, at least for me, and it should be used when using vulgar words or breaking the rules essential as homophobia or racism or I don't know for me. There are many many many people in a debate that can say sometimes to others you are an idiot, or you are stupid. I mean, it isn't that terrible. Just ask them to stop and they'll stop. I felt it was more the option to abuse power infortunately and I wonder if it isn't because of the new rules.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 24 mai 2012 - 03:35 .

[bmwcrazy]

I've never gotten banned.

If it ever happens in the future, it's because of my good looks.

[Maria Caliban]

Yes, I got banned. In fact, I think I was one of the first bans on the BSN. Originally, when you were banned, the message said that your account had been deleted. Freaked me the hell out. When I told them what was up, they changed it.

[Ninja Stan]

Sylvianus wrote...

I just believe in appropriate punishment, and not things that seem to take enormous proportions.

you know how this forum can be rude and insulting, that was the case for me. " if you think this, then you're stupid. " Does it really deserves a ban for three days ? I don't think so. There are many people who tell to other how they are idiots without using this word. We should ban them too in this case.

Without seeing these situations first-hand, all I have is your say-so that our reactions to your post was unjust. Sorry.

I know it was wrong but I am a human being like you when yourself as a moderator you could have some rude words for other people on this forum ( and i don't mean those vulgar ). I think it should have been just a warning and i would have immediately understood. I'm no child. I'm just saying that. I see everyday people using words with **** and they don't have any ban. almost all the time on this forum I 'm trying to be civil, and to be banned for that, yes I was disguted. That was and that is just my feelings.

And sharing your opinions is cool. But please note that as Moderators, we cannot allow the rules violators and punishments decide their own punishment. We Mods have to use our best judgement at the time based on the subject at hand. If you disagree, you are always free to tell us so.

A ban is a serious matter, at least for me, and it should be used when using vulgar words or breaks the rules essential as homophobia or racism or I don't know for me. There are many many many people in a debate that can say sometimes to others you are an idiot, or you are stupid. I mean, it isn't that terrible. Just ask them to stop and they'll stop.

Agreed.

[HiddenKING]

First ban was for postin a pic of Ditto and Bulbasaur. It wasn't explicit.

Second was for resurrectin a bunch of 6 month or older threads.

Third was because someone else started ressurectin threads, and Priestly banned me while I was banned for some reason.

Fourth was for trollin the Indoctrination Thread. I got it closed, it was Legendary.

I'll probably get a fifth and final one soon, I've got somethin big planned. Definetely permaban worthy.

[Ninja Stan]

bmwcrazy wrote...

I've never gotten banned.

If it ever happens in the future, it's because of my good looks.

You're too pretty to be banned, bmwcrazy, but that won't stop me from trying.

[Marixus99.9]

I got banned once for 24 hours .. I spammed off topic for fun in a troll thread that quickly got locked.

Modifié par Marixus99.9, 24 mai 2012 - 03:37 .

[ErichHartmann]

I'm a paragon of virtue. It's impossible for me to get banned.

[Marixus99.9]

ErichHartmann wrote...

I'm a paragon of virtue. It's impossible for me to get banned.

Writing this down for future reference.

[Pacifien]

Logan Cloud wrote...
Most of the time they've done nothing wrong.

Most of the time, they *have* done something wrong, they just never bothered to read the site rules. Or their interpretation is different from the moderator that banned them. Or they think they only crossed the line a little bit, everyone else was doing it, so why did they get the ban?

I had many debates over the use of the term "idiot" or "stupid" during an argument. I understand another person feeling such terminology is completely appropriate. I've had debates over people having a bit of fun during a "in before the lock" thread. I understand that as well. I just disagreed with them, and as a moderator, I had the authority to ban them for a day.

Of course, because there's a disagreement, the other person is going to feel that 1) they did nothing wrong and I had abused my authority. Chris Priestly, as the community manager who oversees the entire moderating team, never overruled me. I mean, that's why moderators are always telling you to take it up with Chris Priestly because he ultimately is the one who can tell a moderator if they're doing it wrong.