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#26
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magnetite wrote...
From what I understand, most people don't like the fact that the ending doesn't make sense or that no matter what, your choices don't matter in the end or something along those lines. Or that the ending is the same cinematic, except you have your choice of color. Even though, with Mass Effect 2, aside from the colored explosion of the Collector base and the conversation with The Illusive Man, it's pretty much the same.


A few difference with the ending of ME 2 though:

1 - The decision made sense. Do you keep the collector base, or do you send it to kingdom come? In ME3, one of the options is impossible from a logical point of view.

2 - your decisions did play some part - In ME2, anyone who died in the Suicide Mission was shown to have a coffin in the Normandy at the end. If it was you're Love Interest, it was slightly more touching with sheppard resting a hand on the coffin (if memory serves).

3 if you screwed up big time in ME2, and got everyone, including sheppard killed, the ending convo was with Joker, not Sheppard, though this couldn't be imported into ME3 (seems alliance budgets aren't as good as Cerberus')

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I think it'll be really good. Sure star boy will still be in it, and the colored explosions and the destroyed mass relays, but who cares. If they can give some genuine closure to Shepard's life and his relationships with the crew, it'll still be worth it. I don't even mind if the ending remains sad, as long as it's a satisfying end.. you know? Something that makes everything Shepard did seem worth it.

Modifié par Cyne, 24 mai 2012 - 10:02 .


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I like the game and have no problem with the ending and there is no option for me to vote so i see this as a prejudiced voting system.

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I honestly couldn't care less. What's done is done.
After DA2 and ME3 BioWare is strictly a "buy it at 50% off" company to me.

And judging by DA2 and ME3 you don't even have to wait very long for their games to hit that price point. Both were available for half price within 6 weeks.

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n.a.z.i.a wrote...

I think Bioware has screwed up so much that the EC won't cut it... one of the reason being they won't change the ending.


I'd go with that - esp. when there's still a multitude of glitches that still need fixing... including the one they said is fixed that isn't, you know the one I'm talking about. ;)

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im pretty optimistic about the EC, but it will not fix the game.
ive been playing mass effect since it first came out, and anyone who does not see the massive plot holes throughout mass effect 3 really shouldn't be called a fan.
the auto-diologue, attempting to force emotion, and generally bad writing just can not be fixed with an ending.
I understand that the idea behind the Mass effect 3 design was to maximize profits by brancing to different audiences, but i don't understand why it would be done in the last installment.
Multiplayer was not needed, and is terribly repetitive and very boring.

if EC is good, then it is good, but Mass effect 3 in general is mediocre at best.

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magnetite wrote...

They've already said that they can't please every single person who plays Mass Effect 3. To create an ending catered to every single person would cost too much money.

I'd still consider us very lucky for them to be making this Extended Cut ending. They could have just said that's the way it's going to end and not done it.

From what I understand, most people don't like the fact that the ending doesn't make sense or that no matter what, your choices don't matter in the end or something along those lines. Or that the ending is the same cinematic, except you have your choice of color. Even though, with Mass Effect 2, aside from the colored explosion of the Collector base and the conversation with The Illusive Man, it's pretty much the same.

ME2 is the middle of the series, they can't have vastly different endings due to huge amount of variations that it would cause. ME3 however is supposed to be the end of Sheprad's story.

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Rxdiaz wrote...

I honestly couldn't care less. What's done is done.
After DA2 and ME3 BioWare is strictly a "buy it at 50% off" company to me.


Agreed. Nothing will rewrite what I experienced a couple of months back, the death of ME. Not even if my tv starts to spew cash for completing EC. The game is still sitting on my "not completed" pile although I've completed it. Just waiting for EC so I can hopefully write off the disaster and dissapointment.

They dropped the ball and buried 2 of their promising series, the only series they have right now TOR excluded. Really don't have hope for whatever they do next, it has to be hella good for me to even look at it.

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No matter what bioware does with the extended cut, i am not pre-ordering nor believing in anything the company says. I´ll wait to get their next games based on user reviews, and if i buy a bioware game, i will do it at discount price.

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Rxdiaz wrote...

I honestly couldn't care less. What's done is done.
After DA2 and ME3 BioWare is strictly a "buy it at 50% off" company to me.

And judging by DA2 and ME3 you don't even have to wait very long for their games to hit that price point. Both were available for half price within 6 weeks.


Ha buuuurn!

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fchopin wrote...

I like the game and have no problem with the ending and there is no option for me to vote so i see this as a prejudiced voting system.


Always buy BioWare?

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It'll be the last chance they have to get me interested in buying any DLC that follows the Extended Cut. After all why would I want more content for a game that ends so badly.

However I'll certainly look at future Bioware games, even if they have lost the "buy without question" mentality I used to have about their titles.

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magnetite wrote...
(...) Even though, with Mass Effect 2, aside from the colored explosion of the Collector base and the conversation with The Illusive Man, it's pretty much the same.

And what happens along the way, who lives and who dies. Besides, ME2 was in the middle of a triology, they were limited. ME3 seemed to dwell between not varied enough for an end and too much for a sequel, except if they limit it to only best-red and best-blue.

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No, not last chance. It's too late. Their chance has come and gone. The EC will merely add insult to injury. The series is a smoking wreck and cannot be fixed by "elaborating" on the retardation that was the illogical and imbecilic ending.

Modifié par Getorex, 24 mai 2012 - 02:08 .


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StElmo wrote...

fchopin wrote...

I like the game and have no problem with the ending and there is no option for me to vote so i see this as a prejudiced voting system.


Always buy BioWare?



I never buy a game before i find what it’s about unless it’s something i have been waiting for.

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Mykel54 wrote...

No matter what bioware does with the extended cut, i am not pre-ordering nor believing in anything the company says. I´ll wait to get their next games based on user reviews, and if i buy a bioware game, i will do it at discount price.


Pretty much this.  No way in hell I'm downloading their cr@ppy EC.  No point.  It is merely going to try to put icing on the turd cake that is the ending.  They aren't fixing anything because under any sweet icing they try in the "elaboration on the stoopid" (ie, EC) the cake underneath is still MADE OUT OF TURD.  Leave the nonthinking simpletons to be the ones who download and "play" the EC (just cut scene, no gameplay) and watch the extended disaster on Youtube.  Done and done.

Any future title by Bioware will be purchased by this thinking person ONLY upon rave reviews by nonsimpletons AND at a discount.  I'll pay no more than $12 for any Bioware rubbish in the future.

Modifié par Getorex, 24 mai 2012 - 02:14 .


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Rxdiaz wrote...

After DA2 and ME3 BioWare is strictly a "buy it at 50% off" company to me. 


This. It's pretty sad, because Bioware was the first company I ever preorderd a game from (DA2), because of how much I loved the first game I bought from them (DA:O). The disappointment of DA2 got me into seriously replaying ME1, followed by ME2, and after that I couldn't help but preorder ME3, telling myself the whole "different team, final game of a trilogy, they can't and won't **** this one up badly" thing. Yeah, that didn't go well.

My disappointment over the games themselves was and is eclipsed though by my disgust of the PR and community/customer treatment that accompanied especially ME3. Maybe the EC will manage to salvage the ending of ME3, I don't know. My attitude towards Bioware and their games sure has changed - from 'must buy' to almost 'check it out and probably get it used a year later' over the course of two games is pretty effective, but not in a good way.

We'll see how DA3 fares some months after release...

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This is Bioware's last chance from me. A company is only as good as its last product and Mass Effect 3's ending left such a terrible impression on me that it overshadowed every thing I liked about the game. Hell, I already gave them one more chance when I bought Mass Effect 3 after the underwhelming Dragon Age 2. The quality of Bioware's writing has taken a dive and if they can't understand what their mistake is, I have absolutely no hope for their future games.

The sheer contempt that Bioware has repeatedly shown for its customers didn't help either.

Modifié par ArcanistLibram, 24 mai 2012 - 02:18 .


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Well... no.

If the single-player EMS issue isn't patched before the announcement of an EC release date, THAT will be the last chance.

An ending DLC won't rightly be worth a squirt of ****** to me if I can't actually GET all the endings.

EDIT: Oh, and before anyone asks, if playing multiplayer means running the risk of playing with some oblivious jackass who would respond to the SP EMS complaint with "WHY DON'T YOU JUST PLAY MULTIPLAYER?" then I will never, ever, ever play multiplayer. 

Modifié par royceclemens, 24 mai 2012 - 02:30 .


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If the extended cut is what they say it is, they're already so far up their butts that there is no hope.

I certainly won't trust them with future games...or trust press reviews of their games, which are clearly bought & paid for by EA. That ship has sailed.

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n.a.z.i.a wrote...

I think Bioware has screwed up so much that the EC won't cut it... one of the reason being they won't change the ending.



This is how my friends and I feel, EC is nothing more than "icing" on top of it, to try to cover up the smell of whats inside.

They won't change the end so still SS DC.

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royceclemens wrote...

Well... no.

If the single-player EMS issue isn't patched before the announcement of an EC release date, THAT will be the last chance.

An ending DLC won't rightly be worth a squirt of ****** to me if I can't actually GET all the endings.

EDIT: Oh, and before anyone asks, if playing multiplayer means running the risk of playing with some oblivious jackass who would respond to the SP EMS complaint with "WHY DON'T YOU JUST PLAY MULTIPLAYER?" then I will never, ever, ever play multiplayer. 


Well, if you were on PC I'd just give you a hacked coalesced.ini. I'm told there's a way to hack the console version too, but I don't know the procedure.

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As for the topic, I didn't find a choice to pick for me. I never automatically buy games from anyone. However, I liked ME3 OK. I guess that means I should pick "No, I'll always buy BioWare games on release!" even though I haven't and won't?

Modifié par AlanC9, 24 mai 2012 - 04:37 .


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J0HNL3I wrote...

Ill see how DA:3 turns out

This.
But i won't buy DA3 if it gets negative critisim.

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I wont install it.

At first, my feelings towards Bioware were... not positive... to say the least. But i've changed my mind. The perfect ending. Brilliant. Inspirational. Strong Will and Hope.

Thank you Bioware.

Modifié par Deviean, 24 mai 2012 - 04:21 .