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[smallwhippet]

Rorschachinstein wrote...

Unless EA is doing all the talking for them, don't hope on it. Bioware hasn't signed up for E3 this year

That's what I was concerned about. Do you know this for sure?

[Gibb_Shepard]

Melca36 wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...



It would be a HORRIBLE idea to have us play as a character who was introduced as an NPC with an established personality. 

Agreed. And it scares me to see pople want it.  RPGS are not supposed to be that way.

The witcher 2 did that and that is one of the best RPing experiences Ive had. Much, much more interesting experience than I had with Hawke, whom I could not even get to act in a somewhat consistent way.

Contrary to popular belief, a semi set character whom you develop throughout the game can have amazingly different results. This half-half **** is the Horst way to do aroleplaying game. Either gives us full rein over the character, or set his character trained allow us to deal with the development.

[Ylhaym]

Bioware will probably show more info/trailers for Command and Conquer Generals 2 this E3

Modifié par Ylhaym, 25 mai 2012 - 08:14 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I hope David Silverman, or whoever their PR guys are this time around come up with a series of catchphrases to describe Dragon Age 3.

"Press a Button, something Awesome happens" was a fantastic step up from "This is the New ****". I hope they build up catchphrases to top those ones for Dragon Age 3.

Modifié par CrustyBot, 25 mai 2012 - 09:11 .

[Melca36]

CrustyBot wrote...

I hope David Silverman, or whoever their PR guys are this time around come up with a series of catchphrases to describe Dragon Age 3.

"Press a Button, something Awesome happens" was a fantastic step up from "This is the New ****". I hope they build up catchphrases to top those ones for Dragon Age 3.

Tell me you're being sarcastic. Please.

The awesome button saying was ridiculous.

[ObserverStatus]

I'm hoping that.

1. EA and Capcom will say that they were just kidding, and they actually will try to make Dead Space 3 and Resident Evil 6 scary again.

2. Blizzard will announce that Carriers will NOT be cut from Heart of the Swarm.

3. Wasteland 2 and Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs will be there.

4. BioWare will say that DA3 will be a lot more like DA:O than DA2

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Melca36 wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...

I hope David Silverman, or whoever their PR guys are this time around come up with a series of catchphrases to describe Dragon Age 3.

"Press a Button, something Awesome happens" was a fantastic step up from "This is the New ****". I hope they build up catchphrases to top those ones for Dragon Age 3.

Tell me you're being sarcastic. Please.

The awesome button saying was ridiculous.

It was magnificient. Not only are BioWare capable of making increasingly brilliant games to the point where the previous game is a topic of scorn during pre-release marketing, they are able to come up with equally innovative catchphrases.

This is the New **** was great for Origins, but then Silverman whacked it out of the park with Dragon Age 2's one - how often is the Button Awesome phrase repeated?

Can't wait to see what they pull out for Dragon Age 3.

As for what else I'd love to see at E3, I'd absolutely explode with joy if BioWare released an ambiguous DA 3 trailer entirely in CG.

Modifié par CrustyBot, 25 mai 2012 - 09:18 .

[Rabid Rooster]

Begemotka wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Ghozt66 wrote...

here's some wishful thinking Cassandra as lead protagonist in DA3

Sorry, if that happens I would NOT buy it. I don't care if shes in the game but I have ZERO interest in playing her.

They also want the game to sell so that will NEVER happen

It would be a HORRIBLE idea to have us play as a character who was introduced as an NPC with an established personality.

I have to agree that this is not an idea I am fond of.    
And as for preset protagonists : there are numerous developers out there who make great games with that kind of lead,and I enjoy those games.
That said,I primarily look for the Bioware logo if I want an RPG where the protagonist - and thus the story - is more or less my own.
Here is hoping that DA3 will have a lead that is MORE my own,not less.Please.  

100% Agree

[fchopin]

I am not even sure there will be a DA3. I see changes in the future.

[AngryFrozenWater]

I am not interested in their DA3 marketing. For now I'll wait until after release and see what players think of it.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 25 mai 2012 - 11:44 .

[Jerrybnsn]

Ghozt66 wrote...

here's some wishful thinking Cassandra as lead protagonist in DA3

booooooooooooo!

[AkiKishi]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

The witcher 2 did that and that is one of the best RPing experiences Ive had. Much, much more interesting experience than I had with Hawke, whom I could not even get to act in a somewhat consistent way.

Contrary to popular belief, a semi set character whom you develop throughout the game can have amazingly different results. This half-half **** is the Horst way to do aroleplaying game. Either gives us full rein over the character, or set his character trained allow us to deal with the development.

I agree.

Cassandra seems a bit too fanatical though to make a good character.

[ChaosAgentLoki]

Melca36 wrote...

Agreed. And it scares me to see pople want it.  RPGS are not supposed to be that way.

And there is the elitist attitude that seems to exist here towards RPGs that are not cRPG style. A preset protagonist does not mean the game is not an RPG. A game where you play as a former NPC, does not mean that the game is not an RPG. Just because the game does not give you the ability to customize a personal avatar for the game world, does not mean that the game is not an RPG. This may not be a form of RPG that everyone enjoys, but it exists, it works well for many people (myself being one of them) and it is just as valid a form of RPG as what Bioware has released. Playing the role of a preset character is just as much roleplaying as creating one, it just means that the player has to place themselves in the role of that character, not create the personality from scratch.

[ChaosAgentLoki]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Cassandra seems a bit too fanatical though to make a good character.

Think she could make a good companion. As a side note; doesn't have to be her but another Seeker as a companion.

Is there anything known btw about BioWare being present at E3 at all?

As I mentioned before, Command and Conquer Generals 2 is almost definitely going to be there. There may be some other stuff, but this game is the highest possibility for Bioware's presence and may be all that we get to see from them this E3.

[AkiKishi]

ChaosAgentLoki wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Agreed. And it scares me to see pople want it.  RPGS are not supposed to be that way.

And there is the elitist attitude that seems to exist here towards RPGs that are not cRPG style. A preset protagonist does not mean the game is not an RPG. A game where you play as a former NPC, does not mean that the game is not an RPG. Just because the game does not give you the ability to customize a personal avatar for the game world, does not mean that the game is not an RPG. This may not be a form of RPG that everyone enjoys, but it exists, it works well for many people (myself being one of them) and it is just as valid a form of RPG as what Bioware has released. Playing the role of a preset character is just as much roleplaying as creating one, it just means that the player has to place themselves in the role of that character, not create the personality from scratch.

Depends what you want in your RPGs. In DA2 you got to choose what you looked like and your attitude. Then you got led around having no impact on the game.
In Witcher2 you had Geralt, but at one point in the game your choice led you off to an entirely different game (as well as numerous others that were less dramatic, but were part of the ending).

I'd take Witcher2 over DA2 any day.

[Sylvius the Mad]

ChaosAgentLoki wrote...

Playing the role of a preset character is just as much roleplaying as creating one, it just means that the player has to place themselves in the role of that character, not create the personality from scratch.

But you can't do that without knowing the character's personality intimately.  How can you know that with a preset PC?

Furthermore, having a preset PC means that some players won't get a PC they like.  A customisable (ideally a blank slate) PC allows every player to have a PC they enjoy playing.  The same is not true for a preset PC.

[Massakkolia]

Most story-driven games have a fixed protagonist. Though Bioware has done some pretty stupid decisions lately, I highly doubt they would remove that one thing that makes their games stand out from the crowd.

It seems to me that Bioware has taken the fan feedback to heart and genuinely tries to increase the role playing aspect in DA3. I might of course be completely fooled by their smooth PR talk. That being said, if we were forced to have a fixed protagonist, Cassandra would be one of the better choices.

E3 will definitely deliver some DLC related ME3 news. As far as Dragon Age goes, we can only guess. If DA3 comes out winter/spring 2013, they'll probably announce it officially during E3. If it comes out later, we may get some teasers at best.

[Face of Evil]

I have no hope anymore. I am cast adrift in a sea of haters, with not so much as a piece of flotsam to cling to in the storm. I have no expansion and I have no hope.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 25 mai 2012 - 10:14 .

[ChaosAgentLoki]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

ChaosAgentLoki wrote...

Playing the role of a preset character is just as much roleplaying as creating one, it just means that the player has to place themselves in the role of that character, not create the personality from scratch.

But you can't do that without knowing the character's personality intimately.  How can you know that with a preset PC?

Furthermore, having a preset PC means that some players won't get a PC they like.  A customisable (ideally a blank slate) PC allows every player to have a PC they enjoy playing.  The same is not true for a preset PC.

You don't like preset characters. That's fine and fair and a plethora of other platitudes that tell you your opinion is valid. However, that does not change the fact that it is still roleplaying. It is a different form of roleplaying, but it is still roleplaying. If that doesn't sit well with you, fine, no one's forcing you to play that style of game. That doesn't change what it is though. Argue against me all you like, but I remain standing by that fact.

[ChaosAgentLoki]

BobSmith101 wrote...

ChaosAgentLoki wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Agreed. And it scares me to see pople want it.  RPGS are not supposed to be that way.

And there is the elitist attitude that seems to exist here towards RPGs that are not cRPG style. A preset protagonist does not mean the game is not an RPG. A game where you play as a former NPC, does not mean that the game is not an RPG. Just because the game does not give you the ability to customize a personal avatar for the game world, does not mean that the game is not an RPG. This may not be a form of RPG that everyone enjoys, but it exists, it works well for many people (myself being one of them) and it is just as valid a form of RPG as what Bioware has released. Playing the role of a preset character is just as much roleplaying as creating one, it just means that the player has to place themselves in the role of that character, not create the personality from scratch.

Depends what you want in your RPGs. In DA2 you got to choose what you looked like and your attitude. Then you got led around having no impact on the game.
In Witcher2 you had Geralt, but at one point in the game your choice led you off to an entirely different game (as well as numerous others that were less dramatic, but were part of the ending).

I'd take Witcher2 over DA2 any day.

That's kind of what I was getting at. A game with a set protagonist does not mean 'Evil Incarnate' or 'Not a true RPG' as both are unfair labels. They are just as valid forms of games as the D&D based RPGs or the 'create-a-character' RPGs.

Modifié par ChaosAgentLoki, 25 mai 2012 - 11:38 .