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[Someone With Mass]

The face itself was good. The photoshop was godawful.

[lordofdogtown19]

Zubi Fett wrote...

I wont have a "true" problem if they decide to make her so human, this is only a request people may agree or disagree, is there game, but a photoshop is, too poor. I will rather see something more alien that that, but i won't break my experience for being like the fan art above this comment. It will how ever, make them too human(like the photoshop suggest) make me louse interest on them, since human skiing tone and few purple lines is just....well, like the helfs of start trek.

That's another thing every other sci-fi series has other basically human species. Star Trek has 3 (Orion, Vulcan, Romulan), Star Wars has like 4 (Twi'lek, Miraluka, Zabrak, Kiffar) Mass Effect only has two (Asari and Quarians) and I'm not even sure I should count Asari.

Mass Effect has done a great job making aliens vastly different. I think they can make one species basically human

[Shajar]

ME1 when Tali wear Phoenix armor you can see her face shape, its nothing that alien, close to human and asari face

[Zubi Fett]

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

Zubi Fett wrote...

I wont have a "true" problem if they decide to make her so human, this is only a request people may agree or disagree, is there game, but a photoshop is, too poor. I will rather see something more alien that that, but i won't break my experience for being like the fan art above this comment. It will how ever, make them too human(like the photoshop suggest) make me louse interest on them, since human skiing tone and few purple lines is just....well, like the helfs of start trek.

That's another thing every other sci-fi series has other basically human species. Star Trek has 3 (Orion, Vulcan, Romulan), Star Wars has like 4 (Twi'lek, Miraluka, Zabrak, Kiffar) Mass Effect only has two (Asari and Quarians) and I'm not even sure I should count Asari.

Mass Effect has done a great job making aliens vastly different. I think they can make one species basically human

Yeas, i mean, if its like the Asari, great, let me explain:

The asari have human face, yet they look so diferet(or better say, give you such a diferent feeling) compering to humans, if they do something like that I would be happy, make her purple with small changes on her face and few deep lines(like wholes, like that photoshop suggest) and I will be really happy with such. 

That i accept, and i agree only two humanoid is nothing on such a bast universe fully of diferent Aliens, I just dont want captain Spok, this last will make me louse interest.

I hope I make my self clear.

[IElitePredatorI]

I don't mind her face, I just want to see it on her actual body and not just some useless photo.

[lordofdogtown19]

Zubi Fett wrote...

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

Zubi Fett wrote...

I wont have a "true" problem if they decide to make her so human, this is only a request people may agree or disagree, is there game, but a photoshop is, too poor. I will rather see something more alien that that, but i won't break my experience for being like the fan art above this comment. It will how ever, make them too human(like the photoshop suggest) make me louse interest on them, since human skiing tone and few purple lines is just....well, like the helfs of start trek.

That's another thing every other sci-fi series has other basically human species. Star Trek has 3 (Orion, Vulcan, Romulan), Star Wars has like 4 (Twi'lek, Miraluka, Zabrak, Kiffar) Mass Effect only has two (Asari and Quarians) and I'm not even sure I should count Asari.

Mass Effect has done a great job making aliens vastly different. I think they can make one species basically human

Yeas, i mean, if its like the Asari, great, let me explain:

The asari have human face, yet they look so diferet(or better say, give you such a diferent feeling) compering to humans, if they do something like that I would be happy, make her purple with small changes on her face and few deep lines(like wholes, like that photoshop suggest) and I will be really happy with such. 

That i accept, and i agree only two humanoid is nothing on such a bast universe fully of diferent Aliens, I just dont want captain Spok, this last will make me louse interest.

I hope I make my self clear.

I see your point and I agree that the photoshop was poor, but I don't think we should be screaming for an entriely new design because of it

[Unschuld]

They can stick with the original photo, just maybe put a little more time and effort into the photoshop. Even then if you're on PC you can use Texmod to make it go away if you want. I'd be more pleased if she was in the extended content, and maybe even Bioware could give her a 3d rendered face this time.

[comrade gando]

Seems the fans are split. Etween more alien/more human. At this point bioware cant please everyone, even moreso since the infamous photoshop. Its like they dont change it (booo she needs to look like an alien), or they change it (wtf she was perfect the way she was).

If you ask me shes an alien so make her look like an alien. Strictly my opinion

[Zubi Fett]

lordofdogtown19 wrote...




I see your point and I agree that the photoshop was poor, but I don't think we should be screaming for an entriely new design because of it

Well, yeas and no.

I m not complete sure if that picture is a desing it self, that picture is more a "shadow" or representation of the idea they have of the Quorians, in any case, a new design will be require.

I m studing design my self, and perhaps this request is more to help the desginer "comrades". A new post shall be create to request a full quality and final design of Tali following there own vision(Bioware) with in the EC cut.

I hope some one do it, I could do it, but two request in one day is too much .

Edit: I will do it, any one here feel free to enter there and give your opinion.

Its done:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12215978

Modifié par Zubi Fett, 24 mai 2012 - 02:59 .

[Kulthar Drax]

Assuming Shepard survives and you romanced Tali, I would like to see her remove her mask at the end and kiss Shepard properly in the epilogue or extended scene or whatever, revealing her (3D model) face at that moment, although Rannoch could serve just as well.

[Shajar]

comrade gando wrote...

If you ask me shes an alien so make her look like an alien. Strictly my opinion

So and alien looks like?

Maybe green skin? 
Twenty tentacles?
Splattering purple liquid all over place?
8 eyes?

In my opinion we have enough those different "freak" aliens, some can look similar to human but not everyone need to be like vorcha

Modifié par Shajar, 24 mai 2012 - 03:04 .

[amxstyle]

Zubi Fett wrote...

amxstyle wrote...

I am totally fine with the pic, execution was off because of the poor photoshop job, speaking as a graphic designer/illustrator myself.

Obviously adding in a full 3D model of her would be a huge unexpected bonus but not likely. If nothing else, they should just redo the photoshop and this would be a good chance to slip the new file in.

What I would change in her photo:

1. Add Rannoch's landscape and sky into the background
2. Fix the hand to actually match her hand proportions
3. Minimize/remove the lens flare
4. Use highest resolution possible for the photo
5. Show a more clearly defined skin tone. (I have seen and read that some light purple/lavendar/light grey tones seem to be the most popular)
6. Photoshop her suit back on minus the helmet and the golden choker (makes the timeframe and act of the pic being taken more believable)

This may be the most realistic request, and in consecuence the one with more chanses to become true.

Could you create a post doing this request? if you do, let me know so I can give my support.

I wouldn't mind. Perhaps once I get home. Don't want to spam the boards with too many threads incase they see this thread. :happy: 

[comrade gando]

Shajar wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

If you ask me shes an alien so make her look like an alien. Strictly my opinion

So and alien looks like?

Maybe green skin? 
Twenty tentacles?
Splattering purple liquid all over place?
8 eyes?

In my opinion we have enough those different "freak" aliens, some can look similar to human but not everyone need to be like vorcha

You misunderstand, I mean I'd rather have something that actually resembles an alien rather than what we have. Ow is practically identical to humans. After her face being a mystery for the whole trilogy its extremely underwhelming to say the least.

[Shajar]

comrade gando wrote...

Shajar wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

If you ask me shes an alien so make her look like an alien. Strictly my opinion

So and alien looks like?

Maybe green skin? 
Twenty tentacles?
Splattering purple liquid all over place?
8 eyes?

In my opinion we have enough those different "freak" aliens, some can look similar to human but not everyone need to be like vorcha

You misunderstand, I mean I'd rather have something that actually resembles an alien rather than what we have. Ow is practically identical to humans. After her face being a mystery for the whole trilogy its extremely underwhelming to say the least.

Not at all 

Only 6 fingers and toes. Different legs and body shape. Ears are different. Eyes.
Thats enough for me, no need to over do it.

I understand everyone have their own vision, but Canon face has been done and nothing "some" people can do about it 

[comrade gando]

I wish a bioware would give us something other than how hard they worked on a 5 minute photoshop. Its so Unreal I would have never expected this from bioware

[Edolix]

I actually like the concept BioWare made for her face. However, the execution of it was lazy and insulting.

What I don't understand is why everyone seems to be drooling over that purple starfish fanart. It looks hideous.

[Vespervin]

I don't agree. The face of Tali'Zorah is fine as is. I'm actually glad the Quarians look very human.

Get over it.

[An English Gamer]

I would much prefer I house-on-the-homeworld face reveal with my Shepard to a new picture any day.

Edolix wrote...

I actually like the concept BioWare made for her face. However, the execution of it was lazy and insulting. 

What I don't understand is why everyone seems to be drooling over that purple starfish fanart. It looks hideous.

Agreed. The current human-like design fits the codex and the silohette and doesn't look like a slimy yellow disfigured Asari.

Modifié par An English Gamer, 24 mai 2012 - 04:03 .

[Shajar]

comrade gando wrote...

I wish a bioware would give us something other than how hard they worked on a 5 minute photoshop. Its so Unreal I would have never expected this from bioware

Im happy enough with current photo, but im so disappointed. They did not use effort for it, such a shame. One of most fav characters from the beginning and get 5 min photoshop while Chobot gets full body model to game 

[comrade gando]

Cant beleive ppl actually defending that horrible shoop, its obviously a lousy effort on bioware's part. Eh low expectations

[unoriginalname1133]

I thought the face they used was just fine. I do agree, though, that the execution comes off as lazy and it would be nice to get a 3D model of her. Maybe even show her without her suit living with Shepard on Rannoch if he survived (and no, I don't care if that seems sappy to anyone)

Modifié par unoriginalname1133, 24 mai 2012 - 04:15 .

[TX-Toast]

Erield wrote...

Bioware has already shown what Tali's face looks like. I'm annoyed at the fact that it was a photoshop job, sure, but trying to get them to change it is a waste of energy.

What we should be doing is trying to get them to add a fully-modeled Tali face in-game that we can see, when she takes her mask off on Rannoch.

[Edolix]

comrade gando wrote...

Cant beleive ppl actually defending that horrible shoop, its obviously a lousy effort on bioware's part. Eh low expectations

Defending the photoshop? No, the photoshop was a slap in the face. I'm not defending it in the slightest

My point is that I would be perfectly happy with the face BioWare chose for Tali if only it was properly rendered into the game engine.

[unoriginalname1133]

Edolix wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

Cant beleive ppl actually defending that horrible shoop, its obviously a lousy effort on bioware's part. Eh low expectations

Defending the photoshop? No, the photoshop was a slap in the face. I'm not defending it in the slightest

My point is that I would be perfectly happy with the face BioWare chose for Tali if only it was properly rendered into the game engine.

What Edolix said. There's an important distinction between defending the face they used and defending the execution (aka the photoshop)

[mjh417]

My LI isnt even Tali but I darn right demand that Bioware get rid of the cheap photoshop and show Tali's face in game and make it looks awesome.

I don't think it's bad that she looks so human (though I want her to look a bit more distinct). They also need to go in and make this all part of and fit into the lore and biological science of the game.

It's odd enough that the Asari look so human, so I think we need a firm and sensical reason as to why the Quarians apparently also look so similar to us.