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[Persephone]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Aurica wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Aurica wrote...

There is also  a side-effect from all this.   If MP DLC (free or not) is much more lucrative & there are enough impatient players who would shower EA BW with cash to unlock guns / character cards.  Then high chances are this is what EA BW will gravitate towards in the future.  We probably wouldn't see much future SP DLC, if any

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Possibly, but not entirely likely, because they know the fanbase is clamoring for single player stuff still. If they actually leave that high and dry, then they risk losing the fanbase for good, something that will bite them in the butt.

So chances are single player stuff is being developed still. Hell, we got confirmation of something, at least, going on. And we know for a fact the Extended Cut is coming.

Right.  But is the EC not just clarification to the existing ending?   It contains no playable parts

That isn't confirmed.

Actually, it is confirmed. At least, the initial report said that. If that chances we shall see, but for now it's only cinematics added.

The initial report no longer holds up as it is. If it were just a few cutscenes, EC would be out already. Besides, devs themselves have said that gameplay in EC is a possibility.

[Reptilian Rob]

Persephone wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

It's not free, everything must be unlocked with either $$ or time. All of which are valuable.

So playing time makes a DLC "un"-free?

It's fun & thus well worth it to me. 

Fun fact, both DLCs were originally going to cost $10.

So I would basically be paying to unlock the stuff I bought either through grinding (% of getting the stuff you paid for is extremely low) or by paying ever more money.

No, just no. 

[shepskisaac]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Fun fact, both DLCs were originally going to cost $10.

Fun fact: you're gonna have to back such claim with some hard evidence.

[LinksOcarina]

gmboy902 wrote...

Smart business decisions. I think Valve is the most integral company out there and I will buy pretty much every one of their releases, probably on pre-order. They give away tons of free DLC.

funny, they do the same thing as EA right now. Ever buy a hat off of TF2? 

[Taboo]

Persephone wrote...
The initial report no longer holds up as it is. If it were just a few cutscenes, EC would be out already. Besides, devs themselves have said that gameplay in EC is a possibility.

This. Seriously.

They have said things that directly contradict the VAGUE PR statement.

Just wait and see what they do guys....

[Duncaaaaaan]

They're making money off buying the spectre packs.

Yeah people are actually buying them.

Also, maybe damage control over the endings, although I really liked them.

[darkchief10]

IsaacShep wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Fun fact, both DLCs were originally going to cost $10.

Fun fact: you're gonna have to back such claim with some hard evidence.

yeah rob, seriously, i could always ask alex, he only WORKS at EA

[Zeroth Angel]

Persephone wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Persephone wrote...

They aren't alike.

If you say so.

The Mako? Pffffffffft. Hated that thing. The Ornithopters in Dune 1 were better vehicles than that thing.

I loved it.

Decent sidequests what? Like getting Wrex's family armor or killing a slaver asari?

Yeah you know, going somewhere and doing things? Odd concept I know in today's era of probing planets and getting stuff arbitrarily.

Only two sidequests that stood out to me are the ones with Toombs & Talitha.

Outside of the Rannoch/Tuchanka story arc areas, ME3 has literally nothing of note.

I speak of the combat system and you bring up resource gathering to build up military strength....nice derailing tactic.

I was speaking of the overall gameplay from the beginning.

Loved Meer in ME3. He was amazing. Though Jenn still wins.

I don't see it. Or rather, hear it. Regardless, Meer in ME1 is a non-factor to me.

I'd rather have no cutscene & more roaming dialogue (I.E. Vega & Garrus. Joker teasing Edi. etc.) than the "Not yet commander" or "I've wasted enough of your time" rinse repeats until the next "interesting" bit happens. Flavor is nice. The first Normandy feels dead compared to ME3's vibrant one.

Roaming dialogue does not justify the lack of Shepard interaction. You can add without taking away you know.

Keep your "perfection incarnate" then. Sure you are aware of them. You glorify the game as fans often do it years later. "The gold old days". That was old when Cleopatra was young.

Again, in comparison. But you seem to have misinterpreted that anyway even with my disclaimer.
ME1 did more things right than it did wrong. ME3 refines some aspects of ME1 while jettisoning others wholesale for no reason, leaving a shallower game.

Good for you. Play Dune & fly an Orni, you'll love that too. Come to think of it, ME reminds me of that game a little...

Going to one out of three enviroments to kill exactly alike positioned enemies & have a conversation in the same room...yah, AWESOME. Bleh.

Maybe to you. I was in tears when leaving earth. I was trembling with anger and sadness after Thessia. (Esp. seeing Liara in such pain and her confrontation with Javik...my God!) I wept at Thane's death. I was incredibly moved to see Miri help her sister. I LOVED the Grissom Academy quest. Mordin's sacrifice had me sobbing.

My heart shattered at saying farewell to Kaidan on earth. It soared during Shepard's final speech.

Etc. Your ranting won't make that untrue.

There is just as much Shep interaction than in ME1 & 2, if not more PLUS the flavor dialogue. ME2 had WAY less Shep interaction for example.

Shallow? You have never played a shallow game. Ever.

Wish i had your mindset.
I felt that that Shephard in ME3 was BioWare's Shephard and not mine anymore. 

[themaltaproject]

cndman wrote...

I mean, first the resurgance pack, now the rebellion pack? Did they already have this stuff developed previously, and are now siphoning it out little by little to keep people interested? Are they actually developing new maps and giving them away for free? Why? They arent making any money off of it. And they have already announced that the Extended Cut DLC will be free also. I dont get it. They will have been releasing DLC for 6 months with no attempt to make any profit. I'm certianly not complainin, as I already shelled out $70 on the first day for the crappy prothean DLC that should have been included in the game in the first place. But I still dont understand the logistics of them giving away extra content for free.

Why are you complaining? Why did you post this? Would you rather pay 1600 ms points or whatever the other console currencies are? I'm rather enjoying the free DLC because unlike you tinfoil hat conspiracy people think, bioware CARES ABOUT THEIR CUSTOMERS. You will disagree with that statement no matter what, though.

[LinksOcarina]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Persephone wrote...
The initial report no longer holds up as it is. If it were just a few cutscenes, EC would be out already. Besides, devs themselves have said that gameplay in EC is a possibility.

This. Seriously.

They have said things that directly contradict the VAGUE PR statement.

Just wait and see what they do guys....

I didn't know that.

So my fault.

[Taboo]

As much as I don't like saying this, I was given a great deal of **** weeks ago when I said Bioware was doing things the right way.

Everything I said back then has since come true.

About taking things seriously.

And about the Voice actors

And them caring about the characters.

You just have to wait.

[Atakuma]

Persephone wrote...

The initial report no longer holds up as it is. If it were just a few cutscenes, EC would be out already. Besides, devs themselves have said that gameplay in EC is a possibility.

Not really. A few cutscenes can easily take a long time if there are scheduling issues with the voice talent.

[Archer]

Bob3terd wrote...

Micro transactions

Totaly this.

The real uproar will kick in after the free EC DLC when they start charging for the SP DLC.

"Bioware why yooz makes me payz for SP DLC when multiplay noobers getz it free!!!!??"

[An English Gamer]

 It's free? Why would you complain about legal free stuff?

[The Angry One]

Persephone wrote...

Good for you. Play Dune & fly an Orni, you'll love that too. Come to think of it, ME reminds me of that game a little...

You know that was a cutscene, right?

Going to one out of three enviroments to kill exactly alike positioned enemies & have a conversation in the same room...yah, AWESOME. Bleh.

Asset reuse under certain circumstances is perfectly legitimate. Why wouldn't prefabricated colony pods look the same?

Maybe to you. I was in tears when leaving earth. I was trembling with anger and sadness after Thessia. (Esp. seeing Liara in such pain and her confrontation with Javik...my God!) I wept at Thane's death. I was incredibly moved to see Miri help her sister. I LOVED the Grissom Academy quest. Mordin's sacrifice had me sobbing.

Not sidequests aside from Grissom and Miranda. Miranda is plot integral anyway.
Grissom was... okay. But highly illogical and merely served for more "Cerberus is EVUL"

My heart shattered at saying farewell to Kaidan on earth. It soared during Shepard's final speech.

Etc. Your ranting won't make that untrue.

And then the rest of Priority: Earth made that irrelevant.
Sorry Kaidan you lose Shepard again.

There is just as much Shep interaction than in ME1 & 2, if not more PLUS the flavor dialogue. ME2 had WAY less Shep interaction for example.

Sure, sure, more interaction with less dialogue options. What?

Shallow? You have never played a shallow game. Ever.

Yes, I have. If you think ME3 isn't then you clearly haven't.

[Taboo]

Atakuma wrote...

Persephone wrote...

The initial report no longer holds up as it is. If it were just a few cutscenes, EC would be out already. Besides, devs themselves have said that gameplay in EC is a possibility.

Not really. A few cutscenes can easily take a long time if there are scheduling issues with the voice talent.

We are getting cinematics as well.

How long do they take?

Are they like Pixar?

Because Pixar can get quite a bit done now.

I know someone who does the color for their characters and enviroment....

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 24 mai 2012 - 07:07 .

[themaltaproject]

The Angry One wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Good for you. Play Dune & fly an Orni, you'll love that too. Come to think of it, ME reminds me of that game a little...

You know that was a cutscene, right?

Going to one out of three enviroments to kill exactly alike positioned enemies & have a conversation in the same room...yah, AWESOME. Bleh.

Asset reuse under certain circumstances is perfectly legitimate. Why wouldn't prefabricated colony pods look the same?

Maybe to you. I was in tears when leaving earth. I was trembling with anger and sadness after Thessia. (Esp. seeing Liara in such pain and her confrontation with Javik...my God!) I wept at Thane's death. I was incredibly moved to see Miri help her sister. I LOVED the Grissom Academy quest. Mordin's sacrifice had me sobbing.

Not sidequests aside from Grissom and Miranda. Miranda is plot integral anyway.
Grissom was... okay. But highly illogical and merely served for more "Cerberus is EVUL"

My heart shattered at saying farewell to Kaidan on earth. It soared during Shepard's final speech.

Etc. Your ranting won't make that untrue.

And then the rest of Priority: Earth made that irrelevant.
Sorry Kaidan you lose Shepard again.

There is just as much Shep interaction than in ME1 & 2, if not more PLUS the flavor dialogue. ME2 had WAY less Shep interaction for example.

Sure, sure, more interaction with less dialogue options. What?

Shallow? You have never played a shallow game. Ever.

Yes, I have. If you think ME3 isn't then you clearly haven't.

I dont know how to only quote one thing, but responding to your top post, if they are making cinematic cutscenes the CGI could take months. JS

[Reptilian Rob]

IsaacShep wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Fun fact, both DLCs were originally going to cost $10.

Fun fact: you're gonna have to back such claim with some hard evidence.

Correction, the DLC is actually paid DLC. 

"ME3′s multiplayer essentially follows a “freemium” business model, where the “free” is the $60 you paid for the game while the “-mium” is the $2 you pay to unlock a Spectre pack when you get tired of grinding for in-game currency.(perhaps paymium is more appropriate)Charging for Multiplayer DLC would fragment the playerbase which is an annoying technical challenge, so it’s worth it to them to give the new maps to everyone. I expect they’ll release tons of “free” DLC for this in the coming year."

Not free, they are making huge sums of money off this shameful tactic. So guess the mean money they will be making off of this based on per player usage? Around $8.50, close to $10. 

Modifié par Reptilian Rob, 24 mai 2012 - 07:11 .

[Atakuma]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Fun fact, both DLCs were originally going to cost $10.

Fun fact: you're gonna have to back such claim with some hard evidence.

Correction, the DLC is actually paid DLC. 

"ME3′s multiplayer essentially follows a “freemium” business model, where the “free” is the $60 you paid for the game while the “-mium” is the $2 you pay to unlock a Spectre pack when you get tired of grinding for in-game currency.(perhaps paymium is more appropriate)Charging for Multiplayer DLC would fragment the playerbase which is an annoying technical challenge, so it’s worth it to them to give the new maps to everyone. I expect they’ll release tons of “free” DLC for this in the coming year."

Not free, they are making huge sums of money off this shameful tactic. So guess the mean money they will be making off of this based on per player usage? Around $8.50, close to $10. 

There is nothing shameful about it, you only have to pay for it if you don't wan't to work for it.

[shepskisaac]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Correction, the DLC is actually paid DLC.

So, when I actually tell you to back up your claims you run to "well, but it's freemium model!" excuse? Just checking!

Modifié par IsaacShep, 24 mai 2012 - 07:17 .

[Taboo]

Atakuma wrote...
There is nothing shameful about it, you only have to pay for it if you don't wan't to work for it.

Correct.

You don't have to buy anything.

Especially when you're a cheap bastard like me.

[Thorn Harvestar]

Atakuma wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Fun fact, both DLCs were originally going to cost $10.

Fun fact: you're gonna have to back such claim with some hard evidence.

Correction, the DLC is actually paid DLC. 

"ME3′s multiplayer essentially follows a “freemium” business model, where the “free” is the $60 you paid for the game while the “-mium” is the $2 you pay to unlock a Spectre pack when you get tired of grinding for in-game currency.(perhaps paymium is more appropriate)Charging for Multiplayer DLC would fragment the playerbase which is an annoying technical challenge, so it’s worth it to them to give the new maps to everyone. I expect they’ll release tons of “free” DLC for this in the coming year."

Not free, they are making huge sums of money off this shameful tactic. So guess the mean money they will be making off of this based on per player usage? Around $8.50, close to $10. 

There is nothing shameful about it, you only have to pay for it if you don't wan't to work for it.

This.

I much prefer this model than DLC like Halo 3/Reach had that just splits the population into "DLC Playlists" and "No DLC playlists".

[LazyTechGuy]

Yeah, it's the same business model that iPhone/iPad apps are using. The app is free and then you make in-app purchases. Same with MP DLC and micro-transactions.

I'll admit. Even knowing this, I've spent some money to get a few Premium Spectre Packs. Yes, I do feel dirty about it.

[shepskisaac]

LazyTechGuy wrote...

I'll admit. Even knowing this, I've spent some money to get a few Premium Spectre Packs. Yes, I do feel dirty about it.

Please don't. Remember that it paid for my free DLC