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Taboo-XX wrote...

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There is nothing shameful about it, you only have to pay for it if you don't wan't to work for it.


Correct.

You don't have to buy anything.

Especially when you're a cheap bastard like me.


This^

Like I said before, we should be thanking those people who decide to spend money on packs. It's cause of them, we're getting free stuff. If any of you spenders see me in a bar, don't hesitate to flag me down. I would love to buy you a beer, it's the least I could do ;)

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Because it makes business sense.

This. When the "Truth" DLC pack or whatever the hell it's called at the time is released, people are either going to light the forums on fire or start singing songs about how great Biwoare is.

Appeasement now so they can ****** us off later.

Modifié par Opsrbest, 24 mai 2012 - 07:32 .


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Opsrbest wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Because it makes business sense.

This. When the "Truth" DLC pack or whatever the hell it's called at the time is released, people are either going to light the forums on fire or start singing songs about how great Biwoare is.

Appeasement now so they can ****** us off later.


"The Truth" DLC rumor isn't true. It was a 4chan poster trying to ride the coattails of a legit screenshot leak of the "Resurgence" DLC.

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Thorn Harvestar wrote...

Opsrbest wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Because it makes business sense.

This. When the "Truth" DLC pack or whatever the hell it's called at the time is released, people are either going to light the forums on fire or start singing songs about how great Biwoare is.

Appeasement now so they can ****** us off later.


"The Truth" DLC rumor isn't true. It was a 4chan poster trying to ride the coattails of a legit screenshot leak of the "Resurgence" DLC.

Rebellion and Resurgence where both mentioned in "leaks". Staggering the content or changing the names in no way makes the legitimate claim at this point the "leaks" made false.

Modifié par Opsrbest, 24 mai 2012 - 07:51 .


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Opsrbest wrote...

Thorn Harvestar wrote...

Opsrbest wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Because it makes business sense.

This. When the "Truth" DLC pack or whatever the hell it's called at the time is released, people are either going to light the forums on fire or start singing songs about how great Biwoare is.

Appeasement now so they can ****** us off later.


"The Truth" DLC rumor isn't true. It was a 4chan poster trying to ride the coattails of a legit screenshot leak of the "Resurgence" DLC.

Rebellion and Resurgence where both mentioned in "leaks". Staggering the content or changing the names in no way makes the legitimate claim at this point the "leaks" made.


^^This^^

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Don't believe anything that comes out of 4Chan for God's sake.

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known_hero wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Atakuma wrote...
There is nothing shameful about it, you only have to pay for it if you don't wan't to work for it.


Correct.

You don't have to buy anything.

Especially when you're a cheap bastard like me.


This^

Like I said before, we should be thanking those people who decide to spend money on packs. It's cause of them, we're getting free stuff. If any of you spenders see me in a bar, don't hesitate to flag me down. I would love to buy you a beer, it's the least I could do ;)


I think I've spent $40-$50 so far...

I've been saving money elsewhere: I got free tickets to see the Avengers, and ended up not purchasing Diablo III as I don't have a ton of free time...

Buying packs was more cost-effective for me time wise. And I enjoy playing enough to warrant buying a pack or three each week. It all comes down to what is worth more personally: your time or money?

Since this is a holiday weekend, I'm going to try to play a bunch to stock up credits for packs until Rebellion launches.

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Thorn Harvestar wrote...

known_hero wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Atakuma wrote...
There is nothing shameful about it, you only have to pay for it if you don't wan't to work for it.


Correct.

You don't have to buy anything.

Especially when you're a cheap bastard like me.


This^

Like I said before, we should be thanking those people who decide to spend money on packs. It's cause of them, we're getting free stuff. If any of you spenders see me in a bar, don't hesitate to flag me down. I would love to buy you a beer, it's the least I could do ;)


I think I've spent $40-$50 so far...

I've been saving money elsewhere: I got free tickets to see the Avengers, and ended up not purchasing Diablo III as I don't have a ton of free time...

Buying packs was more cost-effective for me time wise. And I enjoy playing enough to warrant buying a pack or three each week. It all comes down to what is worth more personally: your time or money?

Since this is a holiday weekend, I'm going to try to play a bunch to stock up credits for packs until Rebellion launches.


First round is on me :D

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Opsrbest wrote...

Thorn Harvestar wrote...

Opsrbest wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Because it makes business sense.

This. When the "Truth" DLC pack or whatever the hell it's called at the time is released, people are either going to light the forums on fire or start singing songs about how great Biwoare is.

Appeasement now so they can ****** us off later.


"The Truth" DLC rumor isn't true. It was a 4chan poster trying to ride the coattails of a legit screenshot leak of the "Resurgence" DLC.

Rebellion and Resurgence where both mentioned in "leaks". Staggering the content or changing the names in no way makes the legitimate claim at this point the "leaks" made.


The Resurgence leak was backed up by a screenshot on Facebook.
The Rebellion leak was backed up by Sony posting details on their online store.

IIRC, nothing in "The Truth" leak has come true aside from what was included in the guy's repost of the "Resurgence" facebook screenshot.

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known_hero wrote...

Thorn Harvestar wrote...

known_hero wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Atakuma wrote...
There is nothing shameful about it, you only have to pay for it if you don't wan't to work for it.


Correct.

You don't have to buy anything.

Especially when you're a cheap bastard like me.


This^

Like I said before, we should be thanking those people who decide to spend money on packs. It's cause of them, we're getting free stuff. If any of you spenders see me in a bar, don't hesitate to flag me down. I would love to buy you a beer, it's the least I could do ;)


I think I've spent $40-$50 so far...

I've been saving money elsewhere: I got free tickets to see the Avengers, and ended up not purchasing Diablo III as I don't have a ton of free time...

Buying packs was more cost-effective for me time wise. And I enjoy playing enough to warrant buying a pack or three each week. It all comes down to what is worth more personally: your time or money?

Since this is a holiday weekend, I'm going to try to play a bunch to stock up credits for packs until Rebellion launches.


First round is on me :D


Haha, thanks. :)

I've played Trading Card Games for years, so the idea of booster packs is quite familiar to me. That probably helps my disposition towards the ME3 MP Store.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Don't believe anything that comes out of 4Chan for God's sake.


Well, this place IS slowly turning into 4Chan. The fact that there's atleast one Spiderman thread a day proves that.

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Because they're desperately trying to keep the franchise alive despite a huge **** up on the part of the story development team. That's why they're free.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Don't believe anything that comes out of 4Chan for God's sake.


Well, this place IS slowly turning into 4Chan. The fact that there's atleast one Spiderman thread a day proves that.

Patiently awaiting the day meatspin is acceptable avatar material.

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Because nobody would buy it otherwise.

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The Angry One wrote...

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Good for you. Play Dune & fly an Orni, you'll love that too. Come to think of it, ME reminds me of that game a little...


You know that was a cutscene, right?

Going to one out of three enviroments to kill exactly alike positioned enemies & have a conversation in the same room...yah, AWESOME. Bleh.


Asset reuse under certain circumstances is perfectly legitimate. Why wouldn't prefabricated colony pods look the same?

Maybe to you. I was in tears when leaving earth. I was trembling with anger and sadness after Thessia. (Esp. seeing Liara in such pain and her confrontation with Javik...my God!) I wept at Thane's death. I was incredibly moved to see Miri help her sister. I LOVED the Grissom Academy quest. Mordin's sacrifice had me sobbing.


Not sidequests aside from Grissom and Miranda. Miranda is plot integral anyway.
Grissom was... okay. But highly illogical and merely served for more "Cerberus is EVUL"

My heart shattered at saying farewell to Kaidan on earth. It soared during Shepard's final speech.

Etc. Your ranting won't make that untrue.


And then the rest of Priority: Earth made that irrelevant.
Sorry Kaidan you lose Shepard again.

There is just as much Shep interaction than in ME1 & 2, if not more PLUS the flavor dialogue. ME2 had WAY less Shep interaction for example.


Sure, sure, more interaction with less dialogue options. What?

Shallow? You have never played a shallow game. Ever.


Yes, I have. If you think ME3 isn't then you clearly haven't.


Flying an Orni in the original Dune is not a cutscene.

Pods? Down to plants and furniture? Grasping at straws now.

I wasn't talking about side quests there.

Irrelevant? It was exactly that tragedy that got to me. A fluffy re-union wouldn't have been half as powerful to me.

Less dialogue options what? Grasping at straws again.

No. You haven't. Trust me, if you think ME3 is a shallow game (!) you have no idea what a shallow game is. You are so over the top melodramatic in your tirades, I find it hard to take you seriously at this point. A while ago you still made valid point....now all you do is rant, twist everything to fit your bitterness and bash for the sake of superiority. I am sick and tired of the "*Insert older game* was so much better than *Newly released game*" nostalgia. It's all about the endings, I am sick of that too btw.

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Am I one of the few that remembers the time when DLC's were free? I'm just happy that I don't have to pay for a few new weapons, new characters, new maps or whatever... Sadly, they always want to squeeze out every little penny of you these days...

(By "them" I mean the game companies these days)

Modifié par Soilworker77, 24 mai 2012 - 08:00 .


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These DLC are not free, they're just payed for in advance by idiots who buy weapon packs using real money. I'm not complaining though :D

Modifié par Shepard Wins, 24 mai 2012 - 07:59 .


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Shepard Wins wrote...

These DLC are not free, they're just payed for in advance by idiots who buy weapon packs using real money. I'm not complaining though :D

True, true... That's why I always "earn" my stuff. I would rather collect enough in-game credits until I can buy a weapon pack or when it comes to BF3 earn enough XP 'til I unlock the weapon and not use those crappy shortcuts... People these days...

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Soilworker77 wrote...

Am I one of the few that remembers the time when DLC's were free? I'm just happy that I don't have to pay for a few new weapons, new characters, new maps or whatever... Sadly, they always want to squeeze out every little penny of you these days...

(By "them" I mean the game companies these days)


Depends... I remember when games had "Expansion Packs"  for anywhere from $10-$30.

I started gaming online with my console shortly before Halo 2 launched, and the DLC for Halo 2 typically costed money (exception was in one case, DLC was subsidized by Mountain Dew).

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Shepard Wins wrote...

These DLC are not free, they're just payed for in advance by idiots who buy weapon packs using real money. I'm not complaining though :D


It comes down to how much money I can make either working for a few hours vs. playing the game for a few hours to farm credits.

I bought packs primarily until I unlocked all the characters. Nowadays I just play how I want without feeling like I need to farm Gold matches all the time.

And as one of those "idiots": You're welcome

Modifié par Thorn Harvestar, 24 mai 2012 - 08:08 .


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Persephone wrote...

Flying an Orni in the original Dune is not a cutscene.


What Dune are you referring to then?

Pods? Down to plants and furniture? Grasping at straws now.


Justified contrivance.

I wasn't talking about side quests there.


Well you were responding to my point, and I was.

Irrelevant? It was exactly that tragedy that got to me. A fluffy re-union wouldn't have been half as powerful to me.


Yes yes yes nihilism is so chic these days. Everybody go off and die for drama!
Mind you I would've settled for dying without being forced to betray all of my ideals and condemning everybody I ever cared about to death so that 10,000 years later some senile old twit could wax philosophical about the stars he's never been to.

Less dialogue options what? Grasping at straws again.


Did you see a neutral option I haven't?

No. You haven't. Trust me, if you think ME3 is a shallow game (!) you have no idea what a shallow game is. You are so over the top melodramatic in your tirades, I find it hard to take you seriously at this point. A while ago you still made valid point....now all you do is rant, twist everything to fit your bitterness and bash for the sake of superiority. I am sick and tired of the "*Insert older game* was so much better than *Newly released game*" nostalgia. It's all about the endings, I am sick of that too btw.


Criticising tirades with a tirade. Alright.
Nope. It's shallow. It's written poorly, aside from Rannoch and Tuchanka. There is less care and more cyncism placed into this game.
Mac Walters is a terrible story writer, who completely ruined what could've been one of the most epic finales ever, leaving a mediocre, unsatisfying, shallow story where Shepard isn't ours, characters behave like idiots, the gameplay lacks variety, the sidequests are near non-existent and on top of all that, the ending is atrocious.

Bitterness? You're damn right I'm bitter. They can't take something I love and turn it into a nihilistic joke and expect no consequences. Mass Effect 1 was better. Not because it's older, but because it lived up to it's potential.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

As much as I don't like saying this, I was given a great deal of **** weeks ago when I said Bioware was doing things the right way.

Everything I said back then has since come true.

About taking things seriously.

And about the Voice actors

And them caring about the characters.

You just have to wait.


I hope so. That's why I'm still using the forums. If I thought there was little to no chance of Bioware taking this seriously enough to fix it, I'd have already moved on.

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Thorn Harvestar wrote...

Soilworker77 wrote...

Am I one of the few that remembers the time when DLC's were free? I'm just happy that I don't have to pay for a few new weapons, new characters, new maps or whatever... Sadly, they always want to squeeze out every little penny of you these days...

(By "them" I mean the game companies these days)


Depends... I remember when games had "Expansion Packs"  for anywhere from $10-$30.

I started gaming online with my console shortly before Halo 2 launched, and the DLC for Halo 2 typically costed money (exception was in one case, DLC was subsidized by Mountain Dew).

Yeah and back then an Expansion Pack was full of new stuff, not like today's small part DLC's...
As long as it's an Expansion Pack that is loaded with a lot of new things to play around with (and that it's well made) I would pay for it, but when it comes to small DLC's, that's a no-go in my opinion.

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The Angry One wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Flying an Orni in the original Dune is not a cutscene.


What Dune are you referring to then?

Pods? Down to plants and furniture? Grasping at straws now.


Justified contrivance.

I wasn't talking about side quests there.


Well you were responding to my point, and I was.

Irrelevant? It was exactly that tragedy that got to me. A fluffy re-union wouldn't have been half as powerful to me.


Yes yes yes nihilism is so chic these days. Everybody go off and die for drama!
Mind you I would've settled for dying without being forced to betray all of my ideals and condemning everybody I ever cared about to death so that 10,000 years later some senile old twit could wax philosophical about the stars he's never been to.

Less dialogue options what? Grasping at straws again.


Did you see a neutral option I haven't?

No. You haven't. Trust me, if you think ME3 is a shallow game (!) you have no idea what a shallow game is. You are so over the top melodramatic in your tirades, I find it hard to take you seriously at this point. A while ago you still made valid point....now all you do is rant, twist everything to fit your bitterness and bash for the sake of superiority. I am sick and tired of the "*Insert older game* was so much better than *Newly released game*" nostalgia. It's all about the endings, I am sick of that too btw.


Criticising tirades with a tirade. Alright.
Nope. It's shallow. It's written poorly, aside from Rannoch and Tuchanka. There is less care and more cyncism placed into this game.
Mac Walters is a terrible story writer, who completely ruined what could've been one of the most epic finales ever, leaving a mediocre, unsatisfying, shallow story where Shepard isn't ours, characters behave like idiots, the gameplay lacks variety, the sidequests are near non-existent and on top of all that, the ending is atrocious.

Bitterness? You're damn right I'm bitter. They can't take something I love and turn it into a nihilistic joke and expect no consequences. Mass Effect 1 was better. Not because it's older, but because it lived up to it's potential.


Thanks for proving my point. Sorry, but you are incapable of discussing this without emotional outbursts.

It doesn't matter to ME what YOU wanted ME3 to be. I'm sure the feeling is mutual. Am I sorry you didn't enjoy it more? Yes. Keep mocking something I love because you didn't get what you wanted or felt entitled to. Your rinse repeating of overblown melodrama and blatant distortions won't change this.

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My personal opinion is that they know that IF they even dare to try sell us a DLC at this point they'll just ignite another ****storm.