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dragonfistvoxeq2

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I just finished the dragon  out side ruined temple (on the  way to get  ashes) at lvl 15.  2 tank 2 healer, manually  turnbased fight through. Used a lot mana potion and  revvie and barely  made it. I cant imagine how am I going to fight femith9morigan's mom) later.  Maybe I  shoudl replace morigan with sten but surely I will miss a lot heal and risk to get wipe  sinc emy templar is not a pally and  cant revive ppl in this  game. 

After analysis the f ight I foudn soem  problems I need to improve and  correct. 

1) my  fighter  lost target after  get knocked  back. It slike  memory wipe on avery attack so I have to retarget them every turn.

2) I have to use hold position to make  sure my  healer  dotn  stand  on same  side as tank to  get away from flame breath

3) mob too close to grp... none  aoe works, only use  freeze, heal, mana regen. 2nd healer is  a bit better  can use petrify and  stone fist. but tha tis  all  dps  from my  mage....no dps  at all.......
but both  cast forcefield on  mob to gain recovery time though its  very short.

4) my tank  ran out  mana  so fast the complete fight is  made  on auto  attack alone. the mob got immune and  missed a lot.  

The fight  is a  marazon..  comsumed  alot potions.
How do I  improve my game.

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cynicalsaint1

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I actually had an easier time with Flemeth, mainly because she didn't move around as much, and was easier to keep on my tank.

A few tips though,

1) I would recommend replacing Morrigan with a character that can attack from range (such as Leliana if you kept her spec'd for archery), and you really only need 1 tank.

2) Keep your characters that have ranged attacks (archers and mages) well away from the dragon

3) If you use any melee characters in addition to your tank, keep them positioned at the dragon's side. This will keep them away from the flame breath, and it will just attack with its tail if you put someone directly behind it.

4) Your main focus should be keeping the tank alive, and keeping your characters in the proper positioning (Mage and archers as far away as you can get them, tank at 12 o'clock, other melee at 3/9ish o'clock)

5) If you have any warming balms, or items that give fire resistance, use/equip them on your tank.

6) Cone of Cold is great for freezing it.

Modifié par cynicalsaint1, 10 décembre 2009 - 04:01 .


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Darth_Shizz

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More or less everything that can be quickly noted about this particular fight (and dragon fights in general I suppose) has been mentioned above. I've always found it helpful to have a visual reference though, so enjoy.



on a side note, doing a search for "High Dragon" on youtube should net you a fair few vids. Pretty sure I've seen a couple complete with commentary too ;p

Modifié par Darth_Shizz, 10 décembre 2009 - 06:44 .


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Darth_Shizz wrote...

More or less everything that can be quickly noted about this particular fight (and dragon fights in general I suppose) has been mentioned above. I've always found it helpful to have a visual reference though, so enjoy.



on a side note, doing a search for "High Dragon" on youtube should net you a fair few vids. Pretty sure I've seen a couple complete with commentary too ;p


You did that? That's awesome! I am even having problems with it on level 18/19 on normal. Thanks for the vid. Superb really.

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dark-lauron wrote...

Darth_Shizz wrote...

More or less everything that can be quickly noted about this particular fight (and dragon fights in general I suppose) has been mentioned above. I've always found it helpful to have a visual reference though, so enjoy.



on a side note, doing a search for "High Dragon" on youtube should net you a fair few vids. Pretty sure I've seen a couple complete with commentary too ;p


You did that? That's awesome! I am even having problems with it on level 18/19 on normal. Thanks for the vid. Superb really.


What was your party composition? As a general rule, the only melee you'll want in there are 2-handers (complete knockdown and stun immunity through indomitable) with high physical resistance (chance to avoid knockback). A shield with shield expertise and shield wall (knockdown immunity) is also viable, yet not as preferable due to stun and lack of damage. A third character as a healer/buffer and a fourth as damage. It all depends on how you set out your party though.

The most basic advice I can give you, is to just look to get the most synergy out of your setup. Telekinetic Weapons for small weapons users. Haste for multiple melee without momentum. You may get more damage from your mage by saving that last bit of mana for a death hex (assuming it hits), rather than using it on several Winter's Grasps. As long as you squeeze every last benefit that you can out of  the four different party members you're controlling, you can turn pretty much any situation to your advantage.

Modifié par Darth_Shizz, 10 décembre 2009 - 07:17 .


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For me the big things not mentionned above, were having my tank go to the dragon (rather than trying to pull the dragon) and avoiding high aggro spells. Slow and steady seemed to work best. I even had Zev plunking away with a bow (despite having no archery talents) and my mage used only her staff when not healing the tank. Other approaches seemed always to end up with the dragon aggroing all over the field.

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Haha I learned so much from readign this thread thank you all.



the num 1 mistake (I only tried this dragon once adn worked, though very painful) was I chose to fight in a small opening inside a ruin building...I shouldnt mix felmth fight with high dragon.. wrogn strategy... puting my ppl too close together force my mage cant though aoe spell and reduce over all dps



my 2 fighter all use shields and didnt go th e middle line to remove shield penalty.. thus lower dps as well.. lots stun, knock down, konck back, and through in mid air



I will run the fight again in the openning and see the diff and then respect my toon to use 2 hand and try it again. to make it perfect.