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[Leafs43]

 The mere fact that you accept the catalysts existence means you acknowledge the reapers at minimum are reading Shepard's mind.

How else does the catalyst show up as the child from his dreams and the beginning of the game?  Would be quite the coincidence.

[thesnake777]

Sir. I refuse to acknowledge the Reaper Kids existence...

[Leafs43]

thesnake777 wrote...

Sir. I refuse to acknowledge the Reaper Kids existence...

Welcome to the IT club. 

[N7Infernox]

Then there's people like me who refuse to believe in the ending's existence as canon in the first place...
but if I did believe in it, then yes, I would agree with OP.

[jsadalia]

The catalyst is not a reaper. We don't know what it is.

[masseffect420]

The kid is real but he's a VI. He's Trying to mind rape Shepard very hard.

[Joe Del Toro]

jsadalia wrote...

The catalyst is not a reaper. We don't know what it is.

[SwiftSlash]

N7Infernox wrote...

Then there's people like me who refuse to believe in the ending's existence as canon in the first place...
but if I did believe in it, then yes, I would agree with OP.

To ignore the ending would be just silly, it's there, you're here. Simple as that. OP brings up a great point though.

[ashwind]

Leafs43 wrote...

 The mere fact that you accept the catalysts existence means you acknowledge the reapers at minimum are reading Shepard's mind.

How else does the catalyst show up as the child from his dreams and the beginning of the game?  Would be quite the coincidence.

The mere fact that ITer cannot comprehend the catalyst shows how shallow their thought process are. 

[Leafs43]

jsadalia wrote...

The catalyst is not a reaper. We don't know what it is.

The catlyst is a reaper.

In his 14 lines of dialog he uses pluralities when addressing himself and the reapers.

"We know you have though about destroying us."

Modifié par Leafs43, 25 mai 2012 - 12:07 .

[Joe Del Toro]

Leafs43 wrote...

jsadalia wrote...

The catalyst is not a reaper. We don't know what it is.

The catlyst is a reaper.

In his 14 lines of dialog he uses pluralities when dressing himself and the reapers.

"We know you have though about destroying us."

Those can still be two different things. If I'm referring to myself and two female friends as 'we' that doesn't make me a girl too.

[jsadalia]

Leafs43 wrote...

jsadalia wrote...

The catalyst is not a reaper. We don't know what it is.

The catlyst is a reaper.

In his 14 lines of dialog he uses pluralities when addressing himself and the reapers.

"We know you have though about destroying us."

A man and a woman are in a restaurant.  "We'd like a booth, please," says the man.

By your logic he's a woman.

[SwiftSlash]

jsadalia wrote...

The catalyst is not a reaper. We don't know what it is.

Where it is true we don't know what he is, we KNOW the reapers can do what he (their creator) is doing.

[Baa Baa]

masseffect420 wrote...

The kid is real but he's a VI. He's Trying to mind rape Shepard very hard.

This indeed
Mindrape you say? The catalyst is actually.......

God that would be awful....

Modifié par Baa Baa, 25 mai 2012 - 12:10 .

[jijeebo]

He appears like that due to a failed attempt at emotional resonance...

Plus, as has been said, we don't actually know what the frickety frack Star-Jar is.

Modifié par jijeebo, 25 mai 2012 - 12:11 .

[Leafs43]

jsadalia wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

jsadalia wrote...

The catalyst is not a reaper. We don't know what it is.

The catlyst is a reaper.

In his 14 lines of dialog he uses pluralities when addressing himself and the reapers.

"We know you have though about destroying us."

A man and a woman are in a restaurant.  "We'd like a booth, please," says the man.

By your logic he's a woman.

Context is important.

Shepard didn't know about the catalyst but has thought about destroying the reapers.  

How would shepard thought about destroying the catalyst if the catalyst wasn't a reaper?


Context, context, context.


The catalyst also he admits he controls the reapers.  And its explicit control, hence the control option given to Shepard.


The catalyst is a reaper.

Modifié par Leafs43, 25 mai 2012 - 12:13 .

[ZackG312]

Star child created the Reapers.

[SwiftSlash]

ashwind wrote...

The mere fact that ITer cannot comprehend the catalyst shows how shallow their thought process are. 

I know what you are trying to accomplish, buy that is a very poor choice of words. How can a group of people who critically dissect EVERYTHING about the ending have a "shallow" thought process? Tunnel vision maybe, but hardly shallow.

[ZackG312]

Leafs43 wrote...

jsadalia wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

jsadalia wrote...

The catalyst is not a reaper. We don't know what it is.

The catlyst is a reaper.

In his 14 lines of dialog he uses pluralities when addressing himself and the reapers.

"We know you have though about destroying us."

A man and a woman are in a restaurant.  "We'd like a booth, please," says the man.

By your logic he's a woman.

Context is important.

Shepard didn't know about the catalyst but has thought about destroying the reapers.  

How would shepard thought about destroying the catalyst if the catalyst wasn't a reaper?


Context, context, context.

I have ti agree, the catalyst does say US 

[EsterCloat]

Joe Del Toro wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

jsadalia wrote...

The catalyst is not a reaper. We don't know what it is.

The catlyst is a reaper.

In his 14 lines of dialog he uses pluralities when dressing himself and the reapers.

"We know you have though about destroying us."

Those can still be two different things. If I'm referring to myself and two female friends as 'we' that doesn't make me a girl too.

...It doesn't?

[Alien1099]

Leafs43 wrote...

 The mere fact that you accept the catalysts existence means you acknowledge the reapers at minimum are reading Shepard's mind.

How else does the catalyst show up as the child from his dreams and the beginning of the game?  Would be quite the coincidence.

It's clear to me that you have been indoctrinated by the indoctrinists to make you think everybody else is indoctrinated but its actually you who's lost the ability to make sense of anything.

[SwiftSlash]

This "us" line confuses me. Without the IT I cannot think of why he said it this way. I do have to give that point to IT.

[Leafs43]

Alien1099 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

 The mere fact that you accept the catalysts existence means you acknowledge the reapers at minimum are reading Shepard's mind.

How else does the catalyst show up as the child from his dreams and the beginning of the game?  Would be quite the coincidence.

It's clear to me that you have been indoctrinated by the indoctrinists to make you think everybody else is indoctrinated but its actually you who's lost the ability to make sense of anything.

Again you are open to express your logical reason why the catalyst turns out to be the kid that only Shepard saw.


feel free to attempt mental gymnastics all you want.

[Joe Del Toro]

EsterCloat wrote...

Joe Del Toro wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

jsadalia wrote...

The catalyst is not a reaper. We don't know what it is.

The catlyst is a reaper.

In his 14 lines of dialog he uses pluralities when dressing himself and the reapers.

"We know you have though about destroying us."

Those can still be two different things. If I'm referring to myself and two female friends as 'we' that doesn't make me a girl too.

...It doesn't?

Disappointed? 

[Meatus]

Joe Del Toro wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

jsadalia wrote...

The catalyst is not a reaper. We don't know what it is.

The catlyst is a reaper.

In his 14 lines of dialog he uses pluralities when dressing himself and the reapers.

"We know you have though about destroying us."

Those can still be two different things. If I'm referring to myself and two female friends as 'we' that doesn't make me a girl too.

Context clues.

You don't believe IT, and I don't believe you have female friends. I think we can agree to disagree.