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Why control and sythesis are the GOOD endings, and destroy is the BAD ending


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ArchDuck

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Obvious OP troll is troll.

It is fairly easy to see with his personal attack responses.

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Orumon

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So it's righteous to force evolutionary stagnation on the galaxy? Because anytime someone says pinnacle of evolution, this is what they really mean.
It's perfectly reliable to enslave a race of serial genocides, despite the fact that the same machine mentioned that all methods of enforced control are unreliable at best, never mind the moral implications?
Destroy is the surest way, and, since the reapers and their creator are undeserving of mercy, debateably the most moral. The only thing that makes it slightly murky is the death of EDI and the Geth, both of whom are comparatively innocent and would probably have contributed to the galaxy over time.

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Destroy is the only good ending, and what I believe will be the "canon" ending.  The purpose of the three choices you are given is for the reapers to indoctrinate you.  The control option is exactly what TIM was trying to do the whole game.  Everything leading up to the end tells you that control won't work.  Synthesis is what Saren attempted, and he ended up indoctrinated.  Destroy is what breaks the reapers control over Shepard.  And it doesn't destroy the Geth and EDI either.  Everything post Harbinger blast is taking place in the head of an unconcious Shepard.  The godchild only tells Shepard that destory will eliminate the Geth/EDI because he is tricking you into not choosing it.  Destory is also the only ending where you see Shepard take a breathe after the Citadel explosion in the rubble of London (if your military effectiveness is north of 4k).  He never got beamed up to the Citadel.  He chose the destory option, broke the reaper control, and woke up.  Its acutally quite brilliant on EA's part.  They essentially have indoctrinated you if you chose control/synthesis.  The game may have ended, but the war is not over.

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blooregard

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MisterJB wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
Prove to me you can extract the data.

Don't be foolish.

Don't be short-sighted. If Synthesis frees them from the Catalyst's control, the possibility that we might be able to simply communicate with them exist. Think of how much we can learn.




Listen to yourself...you're indoctrinated.

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Vigilant111 wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...

Pride Demon wrote...

Vigilant111 wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

 If paragon Shepard is supposed to be a pragmatist and wants fairness to all, then surely controlling the Reapers or fusing organics with them so that the Reaper's purpose no longer exists is the best thing to do, as a paragon Shepard who makes paragon choices, hence blue/green.

Destroy is red, because it's a typically renegade thing to do. Shepard just blows everything up like the usual renegade jerk. It's wasteful and crass.


OP did you play the Mass Effect Series? Sounds like you fully believe what the catalyst has to say, and you Cannot see through this lies. Also sounds like your just a bit upset you got tricked by silly color coding. They tricked you get over it. Destroy is pro life. (Geth/Edi don't die either) Please learn ME. lol ;)


Wait they don't die? please explain cos I am having a hard time with my conscience, I mean if I was gonna stop and think before pressing destroy buttom which I did, my thoughts would be for Geth and EDI

Another precisation, EDI "apparently" sometimes survives the red ending, at least some claim it to be so, as it never happened to me, there's no indication as of what happens to the geth however, s/he's just assuming...


Bioware themsleves had said EDI lives in the Destroy option, also confirmed by that one chick Jessica Chobot's twitter that Catalyst indeed lies.

That information shouldn't even matter, can't you smell bullsh*t when hes telling you all these things? Lmao. If your that gullible.. yesh! :D


No I didn't trust it, I just felt guilty for killing Geth and EDI, whether the Catalyst is lying or not meant nothing to me, synthesis, if its not the worst, it is certainly no more special than the others, to me its destroy everytime, two playthroughs




Even is Starbinger is telling the truth about killing the Geth you should remember something.

Geth are machines. Machines can be fixed

"...Yes but the peace won't last sooner or later organics will make synthetics and the chaos will continue"  (paraphrased)

Even is Starbinger is telling the truth he at least says that synthetics will/can be rebuilt.


Now take your balls out of your purse and shoot that tube! :devil:

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Duncaaaaaan wrote...

 If paragon Shepard is supposed to be a pragmatist and wants fairness to all, then surely controlling the Reapers or fusing organics with them so that the Reaper's purpose no longer exists is the best thing to do, as a paragon Shepard who makes paragon choices, hence blue/green.

Destroy is red, because it's a typically renegade thing to do. Shepard just blows everything up like the usual renegade jerk. It's wasteful and crass.



Troll, TROLL 

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Vigilant111

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blooregard wrote...

Vigilant111 wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...

Pride Demon wrote...

Vigilant111 wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

 If paragon Shepard is supposed to be a pragmatist and wants fairness to all, then surely controlling the Reapers or fusing organics with them so that the Reaper's purpose no longer exists is the best thing to do, as a paragon Shepard who makes paragon choices, hence blue/green.

Destroy is red, because it's a typically renegade thing to do. Shepard just blows everything up like the usual renegade jerk. It's wasteful and crass.


OP did you play the Mass Effect Series? Sounds like you fully believe what the catalyst has to say, and you Cannot see through this lies. Also sounds like your just a bit upset you got tricked by silly color coding. They tricked you get over it. Destroy is pro life. (Geth/Edi don't die either) Please learn ME. lol ;)


Wait they don't die? please explain cos I am having a hard time with my conscience, I mean if I was gonna stop and think before pressing destroy buttom which I did, my thoughts would be for Geth and EDI

Another precisation, EDI "apparently" sometimes survives the red ending, at least some claim it to be so, as it never happened to me, there's no indication as of what happens to the geth however, s/he's just assuming...


Bioware themsleves had said EDI lives in the Destroy option, also confirmed by that one chick Jessica Chobot's twitter that Catalyst indeed lies.

That information shouldn't even matter, can't you smell bullsh*t when hes telling you all these things? Lmao. If your that gullible.. yesh! :D


No I didn't trust it, I just felt guilty for killing Geth and EDI, whether the Catalyst is lying or not meant nothing to me, synthesis, if its not the worst, it is certainly no more special than the others, to me its destroy everytime, two playthroughs




Even is Starbinger is telling the truth about killing the Geth you should remember something.

Geth are machines. Machines can be fixed

"...Yes but the peace won't last sooner or later organics will make synthetics and the chaos will continue"  (paraphrased)

Even is Starbinger is telling the truth he at least says that synthetics will/can be rebuilt.


Now take your balls out of your purse and shoot that tube! :devil:


It is important to re-examine what "death" means for machines, I don't think they could be dead, I think their cognitive parts just renderred unuseable, and their thoughts and knowledge are probably archived somewhere, so it is very likely they could be revived

Modifié par Vigilant111, 27 mai 2012 - 03:19 .