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#6276
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OK, apologies if this is getting irritating, but I have a shortlist of Vega nicknames. Really it depends on whether he had one prepared or whether he comes up with one on the spot; I could write it either way, though maybe the latter makes more sense.

Reina (Queen) - lilli's suggestion (based off my earlier one), nice and simple but respectful.
Bella - Spiritwolf's suggestion and my current placeholder. Includes Oriana translating it, prompting Vega to nickname her 'Bigmouth'
Bruises/Scratch - obviously an on-the-spot one. Her bruises might not be too apparent at that time whereas the scratch was brought up. Bonus is that it can tie into Garrus' 'Scars' when he shows up. Obviously, bruises aren't permanent so it's continued relevance would be its figurative meaning...not exactly Vega territory, methinks
Big Sis - another on-the-spot one. Simple, does the job.
Blue Eyes - same again. Chosen more for the connection to The Who. :P

See how I can tie myself up in knots over something quite minor? Just seems I have a fair few Vega fans among my readers (tied with Ash for 2nd place) and don't want to disappoint.

Thoughts?

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hot_heart wrote...

OK, apologies if this is getting irritating, but I have a shortlist of Vega nicknames. Really it depends on whether he had one prepared or whether he comes up with one on the spot; I could write it either way, though maybe the latter makes more sense.

Reina (Queen) - lilli's suggestion (based off my earlier one), nice and simple but respectful.
Bella - Spiritwolf's suggestion and my current placeholder. Includes Oriana translating it, prompting Vega to nickname her 'Bigmouth'
Bruises/Scratch - obviously an on-the-spot one. Her bruises might not be too apparent at that time whereas the scratch was brought up. Bonus is that it can tie into Garrus' 'Scars' when he shows up. Obviously, bruises aren't permanent so it's continued relevance would be its figurative meaning...not exactly Vega territory, methinks
Big Sis - another on-the-spot one. Simple, does the job.
Blue Eyes - same again. Chosen more for the connection to The Who. :P

See how I can tie myself up in knots over something quite minor? Just seems I have a fair few Vega fans among my readers (tied with Ash for 2nd place) and don't want to disappoint.

Thoughts?


I suppose applying his own logic might help.  Does he call Tali 'Sparks' at some point?  Or did I dream that/read it in another fic?  Anyway, what name fits Miranda best from James' perspective?  I'd go with Reina myself, like you say, simple and respectful, as I always thought James would be with respectable ladies hehe.  Oh, by his own logic I mean, if he doesn't think someone suits their name, he gives one he thinks fits.

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Yeah, he says something like, "Uh...it just came out", when he calls Tali 'Sparks'. Another instance where he tends more towards a visual nickname.

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hot_heart wrote...

Yeah, he says something like, "Uh...it just came out", when he calls Tali 'Sparks'. Another instance where he tends more towards a visual nickname.


Yea, that's what I was a bit torn about, how considered his nicknames are.  But any 'visual' puns about Miranda would be hardly flattering... how's about 'Roo' for the faint aussie twang hehe.

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Woah, you totally reminded me! I had thought about 'Mate/Oz' while falling asleep and forgot until now (seems to happen a lot...). Thanks!

I like 'Roo'.

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I dont know about Queen, really, I think he's be more colourful then that, even if it is a different language, Roo would be cool for someone just not MIranda.

actuqlly roo would cool for Oriana

Modifié par Spiritwolf1, 21 février 2013 - 11:13 .


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In my world, the abomination that is Disney and what they did to poor Pooh doesn't exist, so here's the 'Shepard' classic:

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hot_heart wrote...

OK, apologies if this is getting irritating, but I have a shortlist of Vega nicknames. Really it depends on whether he had one prepared or whether he comes up with one on the spot; I could write it either way, though maybe the latter makes more sense.

Reina (Queen) - lilli's suggestion (based off my earlier one), nice and simple but respectful.
Bella - Spiritwolf's suggestion and my current placeholder. Includes Oriana translating it, prompting Vega to nickname her 'Bigmouth'
Bruises/Scratch - obviously an on-the-spot one. Her bruises might not be too apparent at that time whereas the scratch was brought up. Bonus is that it can tie into Garrus' 'Scars' when he shows up. Obviously, bruises aren't permanent so it's continued relevance would be its figurative meaning...not exactly Vega territory, methinks
Big Sis - another on-the-spot one. Simple, does the job.
Blue Eyes - same again. Chosen more for the connection to The Who. :P

See how I can tie myself up in knots over something quite minor? Just seems I have a fair few Vega fans among my readers (tied with Ash for 2nd place) and don't want to disappoint.

Thoughts?


For tuppeny's worth I could see Vega going with 'Reina' as mark of respect/tact. Image IPB  Or if he's being more playful 'Roo' really rocks! Image IPB  Or if he's feeling especially suicidal he could try 'Sheila'

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I still can't see Reina if it means Queen cause of the images it brings to mind... stuffy old ladies and I dont consider Miranda that. Sheila not bad.

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Why not blue eyes? :)

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Spiritwolf1 wrote...

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

MrStoob wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

I think Priestly mentioned $14.99 in the thread about it. Was that how much Omega was? I figure this would be about the same price.


:o  I hope not, that's nigh on thirty quid!  Christ, I paid £35 for the full game!

Edit: duuuuh, wrong way round lol.  More like seven or eight poonds.

"When the adventure is over, reconnect with your favorite characters from the Mass Effect Trilogy" though THAT line has very interesting connotations...


Read all about it Last DLC

Same price as Omega DLC and I seriously doubt there is anything in it worth my time. I'll check fan reviews of course but in a way, I'm glad this is the last DLC. After this, I suppose I can say adios to the game and quit playing MP.

Noooooooooo who else will paitently heal me every single time I die????

On a side note it suck cause Tomb Raider comes out on that day.... ahh divided loyalties


Well, I won't leave that fast but it'll taper off slowly. Eventually, Dreamfall Chapters is going to occupy my attention. They just sent another update Is this Marcuria?

So I guess I've to grin and bear it because evidentlly, it's going to start off with Zoe instead of April Ryan, who I guess will appear later because she has yet to fulfill the Destroyer Prophecy. I doubt Zoe is awake, either she's moving through Marcuria via incorporeal body or she has literally vanished from Stark which I think it's impossible.

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I had no idea this thread existed. This is awesome. Also hi.

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Badpie wrote...

I had no idea this thread existed. This is awesome. Also hi.


Hello! :wizard:

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omg what's this? I like this thread.

#6290
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ADLegend21 wrote...

omg what's this? I like this thread.

:OI like you liking this thread!

Welcome to the board! We...we talk about writing and stuff! And lore!

And I'm not normally this hyperactive but I need to sleep and I'm tired and this is how I get  <_<

Anywho, welcome!

#6291
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On the subject of self inserts, the farthest I'm willing to go is characters having similar tendencies to my kind of personality. I absolutely abhor stories that simply break the game with a blunt "stick the player literally into the game with all the knowledge of what's going to happen and that it's a game" attitude. It doesn't leave ANY room for character development, unique reactions, twists, etc. It's just a blunt "yeah, told you so, totally knew that was going to happen" kind of vibe the whole way through.

I do have a "bad company" type of story that runs in parallel with the events of ME shortly after the first one ends planned, but the characters will be grounded and actually part of it, not disconnected names. Let me know if any of you like the idea and I'll elaborate a bit more.

Also two other things I wanted to mention, first is I didn't really choose this username. Long story short one of my friends thought it would be funny to "make my account for me" and give me a COD-tryhard quickscoper-type username instead of my actual xbox GT, which is totally different. Second, as some other people have also said this thread is probably going to become a popular haunt for me, especially with how some of my fics are dwindling, which isn't exactly increasing writing motivation.

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snipeshot224 wrote...

On the subject of self inserts, the farthest I'm willing to go is characters having similar tendencies to my kind of personality. I absolutely abhor stories that simply break the game with a blunt "stick the player literally into the game with all the knowledge of what's going to happen and that it's a game" attitude. It doesn't leave ANY room for character development, unique reactions, twists, etc. It's just a blunt "yeah, told you so, totally knew that was going to happen" kind of vibe the whole way through.

I do have a "bad company" type of story that runs in parallel with the events of ME shortly after the first one ends planned, but the characters will be grounded and actually part of it, not disconnected names. Let me know if any of you like the idea and I'll elaborate a bit more.

Also two other things I wanted to mention, first is I didn't really choose this username. Long story short one of my friends thought it would be funny to "make my account for me" and give me a COD-tryhard quickscoper-type username instead of my actual xbox GT, which is totally different. Second, as some other people have also said this thread is probably going to become a popular haunt for me, especially with how some of my fics are dwindling, which isn't exactly increasing writing motivation.


Yeah, full-on self inserts are bad news about 99.9% of the time. I figure, why not take attributes of yourself you want to write about, and pump them into Shep, some OCs, or just find similar traits to yours in established characters and work with that? it's basically, to some degree, what I do. I see some parts of myself in Shep, my OCs, Liara, Tali, Anderson, Ash, etc. and it's not hard to use that as a motivating force to connect with those characters and build them. I mean, I can see that, but full on self insert, "A timewarp transported me into the Mass Effect Universe and I know how it'll all end! I have to help Shepard save the galaxy!" style fic? I never read those, ever. They're a waste.

Nothing wrong with OCs. Drussius here has a fic full of OCs(minus Zaeed, I guess) and it's excellent. All in how you develop characters and the plot. Characters always, always need time to breathe, and reader understanding of characters should always be taken into consideration (for instance, don't go 10 chapters not letting readers in on characters and who they are, it's about as boring and unattached as watching a B-rated action movie usually).
I think OCs are one thing fandoms can really use to breathe life into the series.

Fics dwindling in viewers, or dwindling in material left until the finish? I suppose either can really cause a lack of motivation. There's a few hundred pages of advice and tips to scroll through here if you're feeling bored, but if you have any questions, or ideas you want to bounce off anyone, we're always pretty game. if you're looking for more readers and reviewers from us...that's tougher (I have a horde I'm already religiously following, alongside writing my own fic, so my time for reading new fics is currently at 0 seconds, alas)

Anywho, as I said to others, welcome to the thread! :o

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fluffywalrus wrote...

snipeshot224 wrote...

On the subject of self inserts, the farthest I'm willing to go is characters having similar tendencies to my kind of personality. I absolutely abhor stories that simply break the game with a blunt "stick the player literally into the game with all the knowledge of what's going to happen and that it's a game" attitude. It doesn't leave ANY room for character development, unique reactions, twists, etc. It's just a blunt "yeah, told you so, totally knew that was going to happen" kind of vibe the whole way through.

I do have a "bad company" type of story that runs in parallel with the events of ME shortly after the first one ends planned, but the characters will be grounded and actually part of it, not disconnected names. Let me know if any of you like the idea and I'll elaborate a bit more.

Also two other things I wanted to mention, first is I didn't really choose this username. Long story short one of my friends thought it would be funny to "make my account for me" and give me a COD-tryhard quickscoper-type username instead of my actual xbox GT, which is totally different. Second, as some other people have also said this thread is probably going to become a popular haunt for me, especially with how some of my fics are dwindling, which isn't exactly increasing writing motivation.


Yeah, full-on self inserts are bad news about 99.9% of the time. I figure, why not take attributes of yourself you want to write about, and pump them into Shep, some OCs, or just find similar traits to yours in established characters and work with that? it's basically, to some degree, what I do. I see some parts of myself in Shep, my OCs, Liara, Tali, Anderson, Ash, etc. and it's not hard to use that as a motivating force to connect with those characters and build them. I mean, I can see that, but full on self insert, "A timewarp transported me into the Mass Effect Universe and I know how it'll all end! I have to help Shepard save the galaxy!" style fic? I never read those, ever. They're a waste.

Nothing wrong with OCs. Drussius here has a fic full of OCs(minus Zaeed, I guess) and it's excellent. All in how you develop characters and the plot. Characters always, always need time to breathe, and reader understanding of characters should always be taken into consideration (for instance, don't go 10 chapters not letting readers in on characters and who they are, it's about as boring and unattached as watching a B-rated action movie usually).
I think OCs are one thing fandoms can really use to breathe life into the series.

Fics dwindling in viewers, or dwindling in material left until the finish? I suppose either can really cause a lack of motivation. There's a few hundred pages of advice and tips to scroll through here if you're feeling bored, but if you have any questions, or ideas you want to bounce off anyone, we're always pretty game. if you're looking for more readers and reviewers from us...that's tougher (I have a horde I'm already religiously following, alongside writing my own fic, so my time for reading new fics is currently at 0 seconds, alas)

Anywho, as I said to others, welcome to the thread! :o



Thanks. Honestly I think the main lack in motivation came from one guy, who it is impossible for me to describe my opinion of in a PG manner, that left a review on my Halo fic JUST to say he didn't like the sound of the idea and wasn't going to even start reading the story. And that was on the first chapter of the first fic I ever wrote. Thankfully borderlands readers are much nicer, but still. Saying something doesn't quite lign up with your tastes is fine, but it's kinda overboard to leave a review on someone's first ever fic that you're not going to read it because you think it's total trash based on a tiny description. Insensitive B******...

Either way my idea mostly came from seeing the large amount of MP characters bioware has pushed out, put together with a combination of Borderlands humor and that "Oh, those guys..." kind of dysfunctionally hilarious humor seen in Bad Company 1 and 2. The idea is it's shortly after Shepard is reported dead, which, to the Alliance, was not going to change. So they went past their usual boundaries and decided to try doing something similar to what Shepard did. So they, after careful searching, called in individuals who, at face-value, seemed like effective killers and soldiers. What they ended up actually getting is at its start, it's a unit consisting of a Human, Turian, Krogan, and a Quarian that succeed through just about anything but cold, hard military effectiveness. But to keep their public image the Alliance never publicly showed the unit, unlike Shepard who was used as an icon after the Citadel event.

As the story goes on numerous things will adapt, including new arrivals such as Geth (it'll make sense when it happens, trust me it's not going to happen through author-magic) an extra human or two, a female turian, things like that. And they will cross paths with Shepard, and feel the effects of Shepard's actions, but they will not be replacing Shepard in any sense such as doing missions seen in the games.

It's meant to be a parrallel, not a replacer. The character's personalities will range from smart-assy to perverted to slightly psychotic and just about everything in between, and I'll be sure to actually have real character development in there. Also one final note is they will not have a Normandy 2.0 ship. Maybe something classy like the Normandy due to their unit's importance, but no cookie cutter Normandy lookalike or anything that makes the Normandy look like flying space junk.

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^ Stories in parellel seem to work just fine. That's what my story is, actually. It covers events taking place on Terra Nova during the beginning of the Reaper War, while Shepard and her crew are busy elsewhere. While I don't get the numbers of reviews and views some of the stories about established characters get, I didn't expect them since my focus wasn't on the established crew of the Normandy, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I seem to have drawn a devoted and wonderfully supportive little collection of readers and I love them all.
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OC bias seems to be a non-issue as well. Aside from Zaeed and a few obscure cameos, my story is all original creations, but carefully researched and planned so that it doesn't contradict events in the games, and my readers seem to like the characters I created. Fluffy just pointed to me up there a bit (you're too sweet, Fluff Image IPB) and several others seem to enjoy them. So I say run with the story. In the end, you need to write what you feel inspired by, and if others like it, great! But you have to like it first, or it won't go anywhere.

And ignore the odd review that seems to be given just to troll you. Constructive criticism is awesome, imo, even if you don't happen to agree. My policy is to take it and thank the giver for it. Because even if you don't agree with the critique, you can use it as a basis from which to look at your work, and you might find ways to improve. But your story definitely won't be for everyone. You know what they say about not being able to please everyone. So for those who say they don't like the premise, just take it for what it is. Someone feeling compelled to tell you they can't get behind the idea. Even if they meant it as an attack, don't look at it as one. Just take it as a random comment and move on. For every person who reads the description and moves on because they're not interested, another will go "Oh, nice! I could get into this." and sit down to read it.

Good luck!

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ADLegend21 wrote...

omg what's this? I like this thread.


Badpie wrote...

I had no idea this thread existed. This is awesome. Also hi.


Helloooo.  Two 'lesser spotted Ashleys' in one day.  :happy:

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On the subject of self insertions into stories, I suppose I don't have a problem with that. It is fan fic after all, but I think it could be difficult to pull off without taking people out of your story.

Plus I wouldn't know where I'd want to insert myself (that sentence is weird). If I started putting myself in my Mass Effect fan fic I suppose it wouldn't be so far fetched for "Jen" to be part of the much lesser seen Normandy crew or something. It would have to be an original character and one that isn't touched on much.

For me.

But I'm just not cool enough to hang with Commander Shepard. I mean really. There's no believable way I could pop that in there while still being true to my own "character."

"Hey Shepard."
"Oh hey, chick sitting on the couch in her slippers ogling me."
"Oh you noticed that..."
"Yeah...it's getting a little weird."
"I'll pack my things and go."

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One thing I've been meaning to get input on though is how to handle Cerberus near the beginning. I know I want them to be involved early on, but I don't know what people would find to be more acceptable: Cerberus units having the armor of the Assault Troopers, Centurions, etc. and have it just be newly issued with non-husk humans inside like a normal PMC, or use either the ME1 look or have them wearing the types or Cerberus armor Shepard can get and that's it, no Centurions or anything like that until the Reaper war. I personally feel like using the ME3 units, just with normal humans instead of husks would be more interesting, but I just want to know what kind of reaction it would get before it's solidly put in.

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snipeshot224 wrote...

One thing I've been meaning to get input on though is how to handle Cerberus near the beginning. I know I want them to be involved early on, but I don't know what people would find to be more acceptable: Cerberus units having the armor of the Assault Troopers, Centurions, etc. and have it just be newly issued with non-husk humans inside like a normal PMC, or use either the ME1 look or have them wearing the types or Cerberus armor Shepard can get and that's it, no Centurions or anything like that until the Reaper war. I personally feel like using the ME3 units, just with normal humans instead of husks would be more interesting, but I just want to know what kind of reaction it would get before it's solidly put in.

I'd agree with just doing the ME3 armor but non-huskified. Because, that armor looks pretty cool.

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Should I be flattered that another fan fic writer is using certain phrases as their own ideas without any credit to where they read it?

I sent a private message to such writer expressing this... maybe it was done unintentional but how about a nod to where they read it?

I think we talked about this topic some time ago?

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enayasoul wrote...

Should I be flattered that another fan fic writer is using certain phrases as their own ideas without any credit to where they read it?

I sent a private message to such writer expressing this... maybe it was done unintentional but how about a nod to where they read it?

I think we talked about this topic some time ago?


Just wondering but it's not mine is it? I've always been a tad bit paranoid that I might come up with a fic idea just to find out someone else came up with the exact same thing before I did.