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[lillitheris]

Spartanburger wrote...

"Love, Loss, and Leadership" (that last I am still holding on to. It just... fits in some situations)

Actually, I think this one might risk running afoul of “show, don’t tell”

…

@Drussius: one of my all-time favorite words: “Kismet”. You of course have the options “Serendipity”, “Providence” or…“Moira”. (You could work it into a name on the colony — it’s a little on the nose, maybe, but optimistic colony names seem to be the rule, so…)

Or, if you feel like poking at literary weenies, “Mass Effect: Foreordination”.

[Spartanburger]

lillitheris wrote...
Actually, I think this one might risk running afoul of “show, don’t tell”

I'm not sure I follow...

[Drussius]

MrStoob wrote...

Drussius wrote...
 I've been finding it especially difficult to give the four asari characters in my current work their own voices, since everything sounds similar when the speech patterns are especially formal.

I suppose then you have to give character to each, even if that's not essential to the tale.  Even something as simple as asari 1 is naive, asari 2 is overbearing, and so on, then work that in to the dialogue, no matter how innocuous.

I have been doing just that. I think it will come across okay. It just doesn't flow quite as easily as my writing does when I write less formal sections of conversation, where individual speech patterns can be differentiated better.

Edit: The difficulty is not so much one of presentation as of the ease with which I actually write it, if that makes sense. Ordinarily the conversations in my writing just flow. With asari characters I find myself having to pause and reword things a lot more.

Modifié par Drussius, 12 juillet 2012 - 09:32 .

[Drussius]

lillitheris wrote...

Spartanburger wrote...

"Love, Loss, and Leadership" (that last I am still holding on to. It just... fits in some situations)

Actually, I think this one might risk running afoul of “show, don’t tell”

…

@Drussius: one of my all-time favorite words: “Kismet”. You of course have the options “Serendipity”, “Providence” or…“Moira”. (You could work it into a name on the colony — it’s a little on the nose, maybe, but optimistic colony names seem to be the rule, so…)

Or, if you feel like poking at literary weenies, “Mass Effect: Foreordination”.

I was actually looking at synonyms for fate and destiny and considered that one... Kismet, I mean. But every title I come up with, I reject. None of them sound quite right. If I don't think of one by the time I'm done with Chapter Five, maybe I'll just have to write Chapter Six before I start publishing chapters...

Modifié par Drussius, 12 juillet 2012 - 09:33 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

A question for those with a better grasp at the english language than I have.

“Yeah, what of them?” Shepard curiously asked with arms crossed, he
wondered what the Illusive man would say. The Illusive man took yet
another zip from the cigarette before starting.

Now, what I am looking for is the correct word for taking a "zip" from a cigarette, what words are there to use? I suppose you could use suck but I prefer to use something else.

Sorry if this might seem like a silly question. but english is not my native language.

[hot_heart]

'...took another drag of his cigarette before starting.' Could work?

[Icyflare]

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Hello thread! You move fast! I'm back in the dreary, rainy UK and I have a problem. I have no desire to write. I think it's going to last a long time.

Help!

Wait until your reader fanbase revolts against your long hiatus? Threats of bodily harm always seem to be a pretty good motivator for me.

Seriously though, there's probably a good readon why you don't feel like writing, like no inspiration or maybe writer's block. Try to work through those if it is?

Edit:

@Lizardviking Drag is the word you want like hot_heart said. Also, great avatar. Really smashing.

Modifié par Icyflare, 12 juillet 2012 - 09:55 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

hot_heart wrote...

'...took another drag of his cigarette before starting.' Could work?

Thank you, much appreciated!

[hot_heart]

Oh, and to weigh in on the titles thing. I abhor all those with regards to 'Destiny' and 'Fate'.

Not that I would hate you for it (but I will judge you).

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Icyflare wrote...
@Lizardviking Drag is the word you want like hot_heart said. Also, great avatar. Really smashing.

Thanks! 

[Drussius]

hot_heart wrote...

Oh, and to weigh in on the titles thing. I abhor all those with regards to 'Destiny' and 'Fate'.

Not that I would hate you for it (but I will judge you).

I have shifted my working title to "Mass Effect: Event Horizon" to represent the inescapable pull of events in the story, but I really want something better just because I don't want potential readers to think that it's some sort of ME-based knockoff of the sci-fi horror movie "Event Horizon." For now, though, it will do.

Any particular love or hate from my fellow writers regarding that title?

[Spartanburger]

I actually really like the title.

It pulls me in; makes me want to read it.

[lillitheris]

I think “event horizon” is pretty good; though it is a bit paradoxical (since the definition of the event horizon is that no information can be observed from the outside

There’s also something called ‘black hole information paradox’, which leads to an interesting term: Holographic Principle.

Singularity might not immediately convey the same mental imagery to all readers, although it’d be a nice double entendre.

[Drussius]

lillitheris wrote...

I think “event horizon” is pretty good; though it is a bit paradoxical (since the definition of the event horizon is that no information can be observed from the outside

There’s also something called ‘black hole information paradox’, which leads to an interesting term: Holographic Principle.

Singularity might not immediately convey the same mental imagery to all readers, although it’d be a nice double entendre.

I'm not sure Singularity works quite the same, although it definitely makes for a catchy title. I think I may stick with Event Horizon, since it carries the additional meaning of a point of no return if you simplify it. And given that communication issues pop up frequently in my story, it may fit. As an added point of amusement I might see how many comments point out that the title is paradoxical, because it's a good point.

[hot_heart]

Drussius wrote...
I have shifted my working title to "Mass Effect: Event Horizon" to represent the inescapable pull of events in
the story, but I really want something better just because I don't want potential readers to think that it's some sort of ME-based knockoff of the sci-fi horror movie "Event Horizon." For now, though, it will do.

Any particular love or hate from my fellow writers regarding that title?

I don't think it's too bad since it's effectively 'A Point of No Return'. And I think most readers would take that simple, literary reading.

'Inescapable' has a nice, singular ring to it.

Modifié par hot_heart, 12 juillet 2012 - 11:13 .

[noxiuniversitas1]

Icyflare wrote...

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Hello thread! You move fast! I'm back in the dreary, rainy UK and I have a problem. I have no desire to write. I think it's going to last a long time.

Help!

Wait until your reader fanbase revolts against your long hiatus? Threats of bodily harm always seem to be a pretty good motivator for me.

Seriously though, there's probably a good readon why you don't feel like writing, like no inspiration or maybe writer's block. Try to work through those if it is?

Lol, as if anyone would revolt!

And nah, I'm just lazy I'm like, the least creative person in the world... I never know what's going to come next. So, I force myself to write 5k words of drivel in one sitting and publish it without much editing. It's probably why my chapters are so erratic

But now, my laziness has won the day!

[Drussius]

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Icyflare wrote...

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Hello thread! You move fast! I'm back in the dreary, rainy UK and I have a problem. I have no desire to write. I think it's going to last a long time.

Help!

Wait until your reader fanbase revolts against your long hiatus? Threats of bodily harm always seem to be a pretty good motivator for me.

Seriously though, there's probably a good readon why you don't feel like writing, like no inspiration or maybe writer's block. Try to work through those if it is?

Lol, as if anyone would revolt!

And nah, I'm just lazy I'm like, the least creative person in the world... I never know what's going to come next. So, I force myself to write 5k words of drivel in one sitting and publish it without much editing. It's probably why my chapters are so erratic

But now, my laziness has won the day!

Nooooooo! You have to beat back the wave of laziness and find your muse! I need a hundred or so more chapters of Forever as One! I'm thinking a chapter a day would suffice! I will Fed Ex a muse your way pronto!

If a reader revolt would help, I can sharpen my pitchfork and find some torches for the other readers. I'll get to work on it right now.

I need more Forever as One

[fluffywalrus]

Drussius wrote...

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Icyflare wrote...

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Hello thread! You move fast! I'm back in the dreary, rainy UK and I have a problem. I have no desire to write. I think it's going to last a long time.

Help!

Wait until your reader fanbase revolts against your long hiatus? Threats of bodily harm always seem to be a pretty good motivator for me.

Seriously though, there's probably a good readon why you don't feel like writing, like no inspiration or maybe writer's block. Try to work through those if it is?

Lol, as if anyone would revolt!

And nah, I'm just lazy I'm like, the least creative person in the world... I never know what's going to come next. So, I force myself to write 5k words of drivel in one sitting and publish it without much editing. It's probably why my chapters are so erratic

But now, my laziness has won the day!

Nooooooo! You have to beat back the wave of laziness and find your muse! I need a hundred or so more chapters of Forever as One! I'm thinking a chapter a day would suffice! I will Fed Ex a muse your way pronto!

If a reader revolt would help, I can sharpen my pitchfork and find some torches for the other readers. I'll get to work on it right now.

I need more Forever as One

I'm something of a pacifist...torches and pitchforks unnerve me a little.

Perhaps a menacing looking waffle-cone that I may or may not have holding ice-cream?

Anywho, as to the whole writer's block situation...don't worry to much about it. Write when you feel like it
I can always wait for some more Jess/Liara/Ari, even if my wild speculation starts going off the deep end

[dpMeggers]

I can't in good conscience revolt against a writer suffering from writer's block considering my own updating 'schedule' (if you can call it that).

I'm with fluffy on this one. Write when you feel like it.

[noxiuniversitas1]

Haha, I actually just wrote something for an upcoming chapter of someone else's fic. But - I will try to quell my inner laziness, thanks, folks

I think there's gonna be a spate of guest appearances in a couple of fics soon, btw

[Drussius]

dpMeggers wrote...

I can't in good conscience revolt against a writer suffering from writer's block considering my own updating 'schedule' (if you can call it that).

I'm with fluffy on this one. Write when you feel like it.

My chosen method of encouragement is mock outrage and overly-dramatic threats. Of course, writer's block is something that has to be waited out or worked through at your own pace. And writing is done best when it's done when you're in a writing mood. I will patiently wait for more Shepard and Liara.

But I may still threaten to employ pointy objects and possibly biotic henchmen. It's my way of letting my fellow writers know that they have my support.

I'm an odd one that way.

And I suppose I could get behind a revolt wielding waffle cones and ice cream. And after I put in all the effort to sharpen my pitchfork. Darn it!

[Xilizhra]

Does anyone have any ideas for helping me decide what actually to write? I have a few ideas, but I have no idea where to start any of them... vaguely considering something involving Kelly/Jack, but I'm seriously at a complete blank on starting that one.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 13 juillet 2012 - 01:53 .

[Drussius]

Xilizhra wrote...

Does anyone have any ideas for helping me decide what actually to write? I have a few ideas, but I have no idea where to start any of them... vaguely considering something involving Kelly/Jack, but I'm seriously at a complete blank on starting that one.

Unfortunately I can't help much on this front, as I am one of those writers who gets an extremely vague idea (such as "I want to do Ocean's Eleven in the ME universe") and then I just start writing then and there and doing some research where I need to, so that I can make sure I'm not contradicting established material. Some writers prefer to start with an outline of what they want to establish in their story and when, and don't start writing until they have the plot all mapped out. Most are probably somewhere in-between.

The problem is, no one can really tell you what story to write. You need to find something that speaks to you and that you can imagine some interesting points in, and flesh it out into the story you want. If you're writing about Kelly/Jack, what sorts of things do you want to see them doing together? Will it be a silly little one-shot story? An epic and ongoing quest of some kind? A series of scenes detailing a romance between them? Once you know what you want to accomplish with your story, how to start it should come fairly easily.

I'm afraid that's the best I can give you. Hopefully some inspiration strikes you and you can craft a story out of it. Good luck!

[Seracen]

Drussius wrote...

MrStoob wrote...

Drussius wrote...
 I've been finding it especially difficult to give the four asari characters in my current work their own voices, since everything sounds similar when the speech patterns are especially formal.

I suppose then you have to give character to each, even if that's not essential to the tale.  Even something as simple as asari 1 is naive, asari 2 is overbearing, and so on, then work that in to the dialogue, no matter how innocuous.

I have been doing just that. I think it will come across okay. It just doesn't flow quite as easily as my writing does when I write less formal sections of conversation, where individual speech patterns can be differentiated better.

Edit: The difficulty is not so much one of presentation as of the ease with which I actually write it, if that makes sense. Ordinarily the conversations in my writing just flow. With asari characters I find myself having to pause and reword things a lot more.

Not having read your work, I can't speak to the characters themselves.  However, if you view the Asari as we've seen them in the ME franchise, there's a plethora of personalities.

Liara's Dad is like a Krogan, Elnora is just an average thug, some of the commandos on Thessia seemed like Jack knock-offs, and Aria T'Loak is a well to do pirate.

YOu don't have to conform to "proper speech patterns" just because of race.  If you have to, you may find it helpful to picture in your head 4 different types of "proper people."

For a stereotypical example (forgive me for the generalization): 1 proper British (uppity), 1 proper Japanese (formal), 1 proper French (socialite), 1 proper Spaniard (dashing).

[Seracen]

Lizardviking wrote...

A question for those with a better grasp at the english language than I have.

“Yeah, what of them?” Shepard curiously asked with arms crossed, he
wondered what the Illusive man would say. The Illusive man took yet
another zip from the cigarette before starting.

Now, what I am looking for is the correct word for taking a "zip" from a cigarette, what words are there to use? I suppose you could use suck but I prefer to use something else.

Sorry if this might seem like a silly question. but english is not my native language.

Adj: savored, smoky, dusky, grunting, heavy (just to embellish the action)

Noun: Drag, puff, pull, breathe, tug (replacement for "zip")