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[Drussius]

Welcome to the thread!

As you might see if you scroll through some of the signatures above, a lot of the writers in this thread post links in their signatures that connect to their work on Fanfiction.net. It's an easy way to share their work with fellow writers. In this thread we mostly discuss issues with our various stories and help each other work through any issues that are plaguing us at the time.

If you're looking for some fanfics to read, our illustrious leader lilltheris created a comprehensive list of fanfictions that can be found stickied near the top of the Fan Creation forum board... second one down, I believe. There are many great works there. Alternately, you can just go through the various signatures of our posters to find some of them.

I think the majority of us publish our work on Fanfiction.net... I have an account there, and if I stay on schedule the first chapter of my fic will go up there tomorrow. I'm not sure what else I can tell you other than welcome, and we look forward to seeing anything you might come up with.

[Spiritwolf1]

Drussius wrote...



I think the majority of us publish our work on Fanfiction.net... I have an account there, and if I stay on schedule the first chapter of my fic will go up there tomorrow. I'm not sure what else I can tell you other than welcome, and we look forward to seeing anything you might come up with.

Now that you said that it better go up

[Drussius]

^ I said "if I stay on schedule"! I don't see any reason why it shouldn't, but my girls are back home, so I can never be sure if I'll have the time I think I'll have.

[dpMeggers]

 Hot damn! Is it just me or has there been an upspike in the number of new writers coming to this thread recently? 

"Hi newbies!" She waved enthusiastically. "Welcome to the thread." 

(Let it be noted here that while I love writing dialogue, I hate writing dialogue tags. They are the bane of my writing existence. That and combat. Writing combat can go suck an egg.)

As Druissus noted, most of us post to FF.net, some of us post on Deviant Art. Other options include using the blog option on the BSN or creating a thread in the Fan Creations section. Personally I would suggest the FF.net route. User friendly for the writer, easy for readers to respond to, follow and read and you get to track reader numbers (which can be a good thing, or not). 

As far as this community goes, we bother each other here. Troubleshooting, writer's block, recommendations, phrasing issues, that sort of stuff. Also occasionally devolve into silly discussions regarding various topics (recently it was titles). We usually get about one methodology/characterization question a day (sometimes more, sometimes less) like 'What is your Shepard's favourite colour?' or 'What kind of music do you listen to when you're writing?"

On the topic of ginger chicken: while I do know exactly what was meant by the phrase, I did have a bit of a giggle picturing a chicken with red feathers and freckles.

She fixed Druissus with a piercing stare, thumbing her pitchfork menacingly. "I'll hold you to that deadline."

I should also note that I don't think my stare is particularly piercing, and the pitchforks were your idea. :innocent:

Modifié par dpMeggers, 14 juillet 2012 - 04:19 .

[Spiritwolf1]

Actually I think Fluffy kept mentioning the pitchforks.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Drussius wrote...

I think the majority of us publish our work on Fanfiction.net... I have an account there, and if I stay on schedule the first chapter of my fic will go up there tomorrow. I'm not sure what else I can tell you other than welcome, and we look forward to seeing anything you might come up with.

Be sure to holler in here when you do.   It's going to be a M-cat stew right?

[Icyflare]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

Actually I think Fluffy kept mentioning the pitchforks.

Nah, Drussius was the one who brought up pitchforks. fluffy mentioned waffle cones.

[LanceSolous13]

So, I figure this could pose a pretty good coversation for us writers.

Ok. Mass Effect: The Movie....I feel like I'm the only one who sees how impossible this would be to do well. Why? Just...Why?

Maybe the first Mass Effect could get away without screwing up too much of the plot, but You're going to alienate a huge chunk of the fanbase just by the Virmire Sacrafice alone. And avoiding that takes out the Moral Event Horizon and also would be a cop out...

Then, looking at Mass Effect 2 you have around 15 characters to properly characterize in 90 mins concluding in a 30 min Suicide Mission. That's Miranda, Jacob, Joker, EDI, Kelly, Kasumi, Zaeed, Garrus, Mordin, Grunt, Jack, Tali, Thane, Samara, and Legion. Oh, and TIM and Harbinger. That sounds impossible to do...

The alienation issue happens here as well, I romanced Tali/Thane/Garrus/Miranda/Jacob/Jack in ME2 but the movie has Shepard romance Kelly Chambers instead. You just broke the fanbase 6/7th devide.

Going on to Mass Effect 3, You're going to basically 'freshen' your wounds with all the plot failures ME3 had... Starchild, Thane's Death, ete. You're just going to ****** of the fans again.

[Seracen]

Sooo...lore questions regarding my fic. I would like to have Shepard FINALLY receive a promotion, but I don't want to make him an Admiral.

What's appropriate, a Major in the Marines, or a Captain in the Navy?

Also, I like a concept art I saw of a female Batarian, involving Dreadlocks. Is there canon for what Batarian females look like?

Link for reference, because there's slight nudity (it's a tasteful portrait though)

http://25.media.tumb...wlv2o1_1280.jpg

There's also a few more interesting theories, twice as many mammary glands or testes (in males) and such, but I don't really see myself utilizing the anatomy THAT much (barring "Krogan quad" style jokes).

Modifié par Seracen, 14 juillet 2012 - 04:55 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

^^ I'm staying by the sidelines because I don't give a fig about a ME movie.  It won't have my fav VA in it, etc, etc, etc, plus all the points you have listed.

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 14 juillet 2012 - 04:59 .

[Seracen]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

So, I figure this could pose a pretty good coversation for us writers.

Ok. Mass Effect: The Movie....I feel like I'm the only one who sees how impossible this would be to do well. Why? Just...Why?

Maybe the first Mass Effect could get away without screwing up too much of the plot, but You're going to alienate a huge chunk of the fanbase just by the Virmire Sacrafice alone. And avoiding that takes out the Moral Event Horizon and also would be a cop out...

Then, looking at Mass Effect 2 you have around 15 characters to properly characterize in 90 mins concluding in a 30 min Suicide Mission. That's Miranda, Jacob, Joker, EDI, Kelly, Kasumi, Zaeed, Garrus, Mordin, Grunt, Jack, Tali, Thane, Samara, and Legion. Oh, and TIM and Harbinger. That sounds impossible to do...

The alienation issue happens here as well, I romanced Tali/Thane/Garrus/Miranda/Jacob/Jack in ME2 but the movie has Shepard romance Kelly Chambers instead. You just broke the fanbase 6/7th devide.

Going on to Mass Effect 3, You're going to basically 'freshen' your wounds with all the plot failures ME3 had... Starchild, Thane's Death, ete. You're just going to ****** of the fans again.

Yeah, it's difficult establishing canon in something like that.  The only thing I can take away from such an endeavor, in the case of a book, is seeing the environments.  However, for a game as cinematic as ME, that isn't necessary.

I'd actually respect an alternate telling of the story.  For example, the Vision of Escaflowne Movie was COMPLETELY different from the TV series, and I LIKED it that way.  The "what if" idea kept things fresh.

[dpMeggers]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

So, I figure this could pose a pretty good coversation for us writers.

Ok. Mass Effect: The Movie....I feel like I'm the only one who sees how impossible this would be to do well. Why? Just...Why?

I predict Mass Effect: The Movie will go the same route as the Halo and Gears of War movies?

"But dpMeggers," you ask, "what Halo and Gears of War movies?"

"Exactly," I say, "exactly."

(I apologize for the dialogue, I'm feeling tired and silly).

Basically, I predict it won't happen. Too complicated, too many variables, funding and fan support isn't assured. They'll talk about it, just like they talked about Halo and GoW, both of which are still in the 'people keep leaving the project and nothing gets accomplished' phase. But ultimately it will fade into the abyss of things which never happened. Either that or they meant Mass Effect: Paragon Lost all along. In which case, eh, we'll see how that turns out.

Seracen wrote...

Sooo...lore questions regarding my fic. I would like to have Shepard FINALLY receive a promotion, but I don't want to make him an Admiral.

What's appropriate, a Major in the Marines, or a Captain in the Navy? 


Also, I like a concept art I saw of a female Batarian, involving Dreadlocks. Is there canon for what Batarian females look like?

I think this came up once before. If he's being all ship-commandy and not doing much actual combat, he's a Captain. If he's still being all infantry guns blazingy chaerge into combat, he's a Major. Alternatively, he gets a ship therefore Captain, but he's a Spectre, says eff this noise and does the infantry business for kicks.

There are female batarian characters in Mass Effect: Blah-de-blemtion (The first one, with Anderson and Saren. I never remember the damn names). Give me a little time and I'll see what it says about them?

[dpMeggers]

Checked the book. No info on what female batarians look like other than that they also have 4 eyes.

[Seracen]

dpMeggers wrote...

Checked the book. No info on what female batarians look like other than that they also have 4 eyes.

Hah, I love your name for the books.

Thanks for the quick reply though, I think I'll use the method of explaining what the first female looks like in my story, then reference the art in author's notes.

[lillitheris]

Seracen wrote...

What's appropriate, a Major in the Marines, or a Captain in the Navy?

Pick one. Major if (s)he is an infantry specialist, Captain if fleet combat specialist.

Also, I like a concept art I saw of a female Batarian, involving Dreadlocks. Is there canon for what Batarian females look like?

The picture is quite nice. Lorewise, I think it’s established that only humans and quarians have proper hair — but I’m not sure anyone would be too bothered about it if you did give them hair.

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The movie doesn’t bother me, since I read a lot of fanfic. I have no trouble accepting yet another canon. That said, it’s not looking particularly good for the effort.

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Ohh, a fortune cookie! I thought it was a weird turian reference…

[Caligno]

...RPing has embarrassingly taken up most of my free time >_>

[LanceSolous13]

lillitheris wrote...

The movie doesn’t bother me, since I read a lot of fanfic. I have no trouble accepting yet another canon. That said, it’s not looking particularly good for the effort.

I don't mind it too much persionally.

I'm talking more or less about how much they'd have to axe from Mass Effect 2 and how poor Mass Effect 3 could be if they keep everything faithful to the series.

[noxiuniversitas1]

Seracen wrote...

Sooo...lore questions regarding my fic. I would like to have Shepard FINALLY receive a promotion, but I don't want to make him an Admiral.

What's appropriate, a Major in the Marines, or a Captain in the Navy?

Also, I like a concept art I saw of a female Batarian, involving Dreadlocks. Is there canon for what Batarian females look like?

Link for reference, because there's slight nudity (it's a tasteful portrait though)

http://25.media.tumb...wlv2o1_1280.jpg

There's also a few more interesting theories, twice as many mammary glands or testes (in males) and such, but I don't really see myself utilizing the anatomy THAT much (barring "Krogan quad" style jokes).

The rank confusion in ME3 actually irritated me quite a bit (I have two brothers who have served in the armed forces, that's probably why...). So, pretty early on in my story, I wrote an A/N saying:

I know there was a bit of confusion over military ranks in ME3, so to avoid confusion, let me clarify that this particular story distinguishes between marine (2LT, 1LT, Capt, Maj, Lt Col, Col, Gen) and naval (ENS, LTJG, LT, Lt Cdr, Cdr, Capt, Adm) ranks.

Shep's a marine, but has a naval rank (the Codex specifically says that naval and marine ranks are kept distinct -- I know they don't follow the US military, but - does the Canadian military have a Marine Corps)?

Anyway... she's got a naval rank, so I'd promote her up the navy chain of command (I suppose her XO/ship captain status "outdoes" her status as a marine). She's an LtCdr in ME1. A promotion at the start of ME3 to Cdr (which I actually think is implied by Anderson when Shep leaves Earth) would keep the title "Commander".

That and... codex nonsense aside, a "promotion" to Major wouldn't really be a promotion at all. In this day and age, at least. They're they same grade (?O4).
Also... I retconned the codex ranks because I didn't want Kaidan to "outrank" Shep

Modifié par noxiuniversitas1, 14 juillet 2012 - 08:45 .

[Ursakar]

I have a question ME personal armor. As I understand, the heavier variants are similar to the medieval armor, which means that they consist of several pieces connected to each other (breastplate, vambraces, greaves etc.)

My question is: what about light armor? Can it also consist of several pieces or should it be like solid one-piece suit similar to what divers wear?

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Ursakar wrote...

I have a question ME personal armor. As I understand, the heavier variants are similar to the medieval armor, which means that they consist of several pieces connected to each other (breastplate, vambraces, greaves etc.)

My question is: what about light armor? Can it also consist of several pieces or should it be like solid one-piece suit similar to what divers wear?

I'd called it a skinsuit though. One piece. That would make it really different from the other two sets.

[Spiritwolf1]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

The movie doesn’t bother me, since I read a lot of fanfic. I have no trouble accepting yet another canon. That said, it’s not looking particularly good for the effort.

I don't mind it too much persionally.

I'm talking more or less about how much they'd have to axe from Mass Effect 2 and how poor Mass Effect 3 could be if they keep everything faithful to the series.

This would all depend on who helms the movie. I can only think of one guy who can take a "team" and make it work like magic and that would be Joss Whedon, but they won't get him. I could spend hours placing examples on how this guy could work magic on a ME movie. Good team build up, one of the best for character developements.
EDIT: Joss is actually very good at tastefully killing off good characters

Personally I think Mass Effect could have been a good few season of TV and I mean the British fashion of TV, not 24 episodes, but as many episodes as it takes to tell the story and tell it well.  Might be eight episodes for the first ME, 13-15 for the secoind ETC, but to make it last longer they should start with HUmans discovering the ME relay and first contact.

Just my $.02

Modifié par Spiritwolf1, 14 juillet 2012 - 12:54 .

[Drussius]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

The movie doesn’t bother me, since I read a lot of fanfic. I have no trouble accepting yet another canon. That said, it’s not looking particularly good for the effort.

I don't mind it too much persionally.

I'm talking more or less about how much they'd have to axe from Mass Effect 2 and how poor Mass Effect 3 could be if they keep everything faithful to the series.

This would all depend on who helms the movie. I can only think of one guy who can take a "team" and make it work like magic and that would be Joss Whedon, but they won't get him. I could spend hours placing examples on how this guy could work magic on a ME movie. Good team build up, one of the best for character developements.
EDIT: Joss is actually very good at tastefully killing off good characters

Personally I think Mass Effect could have been a good few season of TV and I mean the British fashion of TV, not 24 episodes, but as many episodes as it takes to tell the story and tell it well.  Might be eight episodes for the first ME, 13-15 for the secoind ETC, but to make it last longer they should start with HUmans discovering the ME relay and first contact.

Just my $.02

We're up to $.04 with mine:

Don't forget that we live in the age of "The Deathly Hallows, Part 1" and "Part 2". If whichever company was making the series thought they could get more money from cutting less content and making the movie in two parts, they sure wouldn't hesitate. I could see Mass Effect 2, parts one and two if they really did decide to commit to making movies out of the games.

[Spiritwolf1]

Drussius wrote...

We're up to $.04 with mine:

Don't forget that we live in the age of "The Deathly Hallows, Part 1" and "Part 2". If whichever company was making the series thought they could get more money from cutting less content and making the movie in two parts, they sure wouldn't hesitate. I could see Mass Effect 2, parts one and two if they really did decide to commit to making movies out of the games.

$.06

A lot of movies are now doing that, the Hunger Games is rumoured to be splitting up all their books into two movies Twilight did as well for the last movie. This is a trend that I see being the norm in the furture. Two parts means double the money...

[lillitheris]

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Shep's a marine, but has a naval rank (the Codex specifically says that naval and marine ranks are kept distinct -- I know they don't follow the US military, but - does the Canadian military have a Marine Corps)?

Ah! It actually says “The marines, as a matter of pride, maintain some of their
traditional rank titles; for example, marines have Privates and
Corporals instead of Servicemen.”

The only ones kept separate, as honorary titles, are Private/Corporal = Serviceman, Major = Captain, and General = Rear Admiral. These also seem very convenient as differentiators, as a ship that has a Captain is not unlikely to have a Major on board, etc. So, Shepard’s rank doesn’t tell us much — and the N7 implies she’s infantry.

I think we went into some detail about this a few pages back, but the differentiation is just handled through specialization. Shepard’s training would likely have included some fleet ops, making her capable of handling a non-fleet combat vessel with a competent XO and crew handling the details.

I must admit, I never understood what the problem was with how the ranks are handled…it felt natural enough as a single branch of service and multiple specializations.

That said, you can obviously establish whatever you prefer as your own rank system.

Modifié par lillitheris, 14 juillet 2012 - 02:32 .

[Drussius]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

Drussius wrote...

We're up to $.04 with mine:

Don't forget that we live in the age of "The Deathly Hallows, Part 1" and "Part 2". If whichever company was making the series thought they could get more money from cutting less content and making the movie in two parts, they sure wouldn't hesitate. I could see Mass Effect 2, parts one and two if they really did decide to commit to making movies out of the games.

$.06

A lot of movies are now doing that, the Hunger Games is rumoured to be splitting up all their books into two movies Twilight did as well for the last movie. This is a trend that I see being the norm in the furture. Two parts means double the money...

$.08!

While the inherent greed to two-part movies bugs me on some level, it also does allow them to put more of the story into the movies when adapting books, so that fewer scenes need to be cut on the basis of time. So it's a bit of a mixed bag for me. More story and accuracy? Yay! Twice the cost to see it all? Boo!