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#2876
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lillitheris wrote...

Skipped over this… I think light armor still falls in the same pattern of construction for the most part. It’ll have some type of hardened base fabric/material, and then either detachable or attached armor pieces. If you look at Liara’s white-blue outfit, for example, you could well imagine it containing a few plates of a light material (not kevlar, but somewhat indicative). The lightness also comes from lacking complete coverage — for example rather than a full vambrace, it’ll only have a slightly curved piece that covers the top of the forearm, and so on. The joints are more exposed for mobility etc.

In addition, I think skinsuits go underneath…they may have some special properties, compression, medi-gel delivery, shield gridding, light weave, and so on.


Thanks. My problem is that I need to write a scene where one of my characters removes his cybernetic arm and I need to know whether he should simply  "remove his vambrace" or "remove his vambrace and roll up the sleeve of his skinsuit". My main problem is that the said character doesn't a wear a typical ME armor but rather a light armor with Imperial Guard storm trooper carapace armor welded to it.

I think I shall use the second option.

Modifié par Ursakar, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:10 .


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I need to just sneak in and say I have only ever written on fan fic and it has Shepard in it. To each there own. I love reading other peoples take on Shepard.

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hot_heart wrote...

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Proclude? I feel stupid but I can't find that on google.... *facepalm*

Haha. It's me who should feel stupid. Meant to type preclude, kind of like the opposite of include. Though maybe I should've gone for exclude. I am too tired. :blink:

Article is here. Be nice. :P

Yeah, tying them together somehow would be nigh on impossible. Instead you'd look at other ways of fleshing out the characters while following the main plot. Might be an interesting endeavour, actually, but not one for which I would spare the time.

EDIT: Ha. Reading the article now, I had forgotten I was using Firefly as a reference. Lately, I've seen a few people saying that Whedon would be great for a Mass Effect film. And it does make sense (but would never happen).

 

I think Whedon could adapt  anything to film and it will be good because he is just that talent. He takes his time to get to know the canon he  is was working  with and works with in it. Not  change the universe to fit his stories needs.


After his work with Avengers  he would be my first recommandation  for  a film adapation, from Mass Effect to Gundam  to Macross. 

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Drussius wrote...

Well, the themesong is certainly amusing. Sounds like the kind of show I would be doing a lot of snickering while watching. But I don't usually watch that sort of show. I'm more of the Law & Order, NCIS, CSI, Covert Affairs, etc. type of guy. Either that or I'm watching whatever shows the girls feel like watching. Posted Image


I don't follow it, because I'm lazy and following storylines in tv takes too long, but the episodes are just self-contained enough that ignoring the overarching storyline is possible. Also, nerd humour.

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So how many people write fan fiction that doesn't involve Sheperd?


Personally can't stand actually writing about Shepard. The second you make one decision, you alienate half of the audience who has a different opinion. Renegade/Paragon plus LI determine just who reads it. I prefer writing something that a wide majority can enjoy.

The only time I think I wrote something about Shepard was an big AU fic, which kind of burned out. 


I'd like to think that the bolded isn't true, but like reading based on review count, this may just be another example of me naively assuming that everyone reads fanfic in a similar way to me.

I've noticed this thread has a fairly heavy leaning towards FemShep x Liara (Seriously. There are so many of you.). This is not a pairing I've ever been interested in. Liara bores the hell out of me. Not as a character. As a character she's kind of Indiana Jones/Lara Croft crossed with Movie!Hiccup of How to Train Your Dragon. She's cool. As a person, for whatever reason, I just find her kind of bland. And no matter how hard I try to RP my Sheps, I always feel like she's more of a little sister you want to take care of than a possible romance. So I've never romanced her, and I don't feel particularly compelled to try it
(So you can probably guess that if Damon romances anyone, it won't be Liara) . But the writers on this thread are good writers, so I actually feel like I read more FemShep x Liara than any other pairing at the moment.

Although I suppose I only read that pairing because I was interacting with the people who wrote about it and I have talked about my aversion to AUs, so it's not outside the bounds of my reality that people read based on LI. (If fain wanders by at some point - I'm trying to gird my loins and delve into ITU, but it's big and intimidating.)

I don't know about the P/R divide alienating people though. Maybe it's more common to people who have a single cannon Shepard to stop reading because their Shep wouldn't have done the same in that situation, but given that most of what I've read with Shep includes gender and first name, I would think that people would be able to differentiate between thier Shep and fic Shep.

...This turned into something much larger than I expected. At any rate, I'm still trying to work my way through your works and today is turning into a bit of a sleepy day (thank you weather).

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Ursakar wrote...

Thanks. My problem is that I need to write a scene where one of my characters removes his cybernetic arm and I need to know whether he should simply  "remove his vambrace" or "remove his vambrace and roll up the sleeve of his skinsuit". My main problem is that the said character doesn't a wear a typical ME armor but rather a light armor with Imperial Guard storm trooper carapace armor welded to it.

I think I shall use the second option.


That sounds like the way to go in this case!



@Drussius I’ll get to it as soon as I can get myself to write out these final things…



Re: Shepardness: I can’t personally imagine writing a Generic Shepard. It can and has been done, certainly, but I find that they often come across a little…well, generic. There needs to be a lot of emphasis on the rest of the cast if your Shepard isn’t as developed. Additionally, I think that in this case, the risk of making missteps with choices is far higher. If you try to convince people that you have a Joe-Every Shepard, then people will be more likely to expect to be able to insert themselves.

So, personally, I think that the unapologetically personal Shepard is the way to go. You may turn off some readers, but most people will approach it as Some Other Character rather than associate it with their own Shepard.

OCs are a different matter, of course — you can write very well fleshed-out characters and interesting stories. The only concern is the initial hook to get people into the story. Often this ends up being a known character or event, and usually it works fine.

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I guess I should introduce myself.
I'm Scepsis. (duh)

And I'm trying to get into the fanfiction scene.
I already have a couple friends interested in read my (currently WiP) fics and would love to establish a wider audience.

Tips, tricks, and any advice for a neophyte would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your help. I'll make myself at home here.

=]

Modifié par Scepsis, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:56 .


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Odd little aside (that will lead into something relevant): was going to start watching Leverage, which a friend had downloaded but I managed to start watching episode 11 of season 1 by mistake. :P

It just so happens that before I became aware, I heard a line which I think will work perfectly in my story, with a little rephrasing: "Nothing's more dangerous than the confused when they think they know something." So...

Have you ever had inspiration in odd places?

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Scepsis wrote...

I guess I should introduce myself.
I'm Scepsis. (duh)

And I'm trying to get into the fanfiction scene.
I already have a couple friends interested in read my (currently WiP) fics and would love to establish a wider audience.

Tips, tricks, and any advice for a neophyte would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your help. I'll make myself at home here.

=]


Welcome!  I'm new to the ME writing scene, not so much to ME or fanfiction in general.  Best advice I think anyone can have while writing...HAVE FUN!

If it isn't flowing from your mind easily, you may not be happy with the outcome.  For when that happens to me, I go through some writing worksheets.  This has lead to some epiphanies of late, solving a few major problems I had on how to get certain scenes to work.

hot_heart wrote... 

Odd little aside (that will lead into something relevant): was going to start watching Leverage, which a friend had downloaded but I managed to start watching episode 11 of season 1 by mistake. Posted Image

It just so happens that before I became aware, I heard a line which I think will work perfectly in my story, with a little rephrasing: "Nothing's more dangerous than the confused when they think they know something." So...

Have you ever had inspiration in odd places? 


I tend to think about my writing while going to sleep, so I take inspiration from my dreams on occassion :P.

EDIT: I suck at embedding quotes sometimes, apologies, grr...

Modifié par Seracen, 15 juillet 2012 - 08:17 .


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Gah, I wish I could get writing done by lucid dreaming. That is the best.

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Ok, here's a question for you folks; when you read a ME fanfic, do you see your Shepard or are you trying to see the author's Shepard? I've met and spoken with folks who do both.

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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

Ok, here's a question for you folks; when you read a ME fanfic, do you see your Shepard or are you trying to see the author's Shepard? I've met and spoken with folks who do both.


I always try to see the author's Shepard. Most of the writers spend some time describing their Shepards and what moves them so its kind of easy for me to envision them.

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Damn it, double post.

Modifié par Ursakar, 15 juillet 2012 - 08:41 .


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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

Ok, here's a question for you folks; when you read a ME fanfic, do you see your Shepard or are you trying to see the author's Shepard? I've met and spoken with folks who do both. 


I consider all Shepards to be variants of each other.  The comic book fan in me still remembers all the variants of Batman/Spiderman and accepts them all.  I tend to turn Shepard into canon male or canon ME3 female IN TERMS OF LOOKS, however.

Still, Shep is so variable depending on many of my own playthroughs, I don't see anything other decide to do as alien.  Perhaps foolish (ME3 ending, blah blah), but not alien.  Anything is still possible.

hot_heart wrote...

Gah, I wish I could get writing done by lucid dreaming. That is the best.


Yeah, it's difficult to do, but when it happens...I've written almost an entire book off of the ideas I've gotten from lucid dreams.  Of course, there's always the problem of stuff that doesn't make sense in the real world, and I hate dropping that stuff, b/c it's some of the coolest stuff.

On the other hand, I still enjoy day-dreaming.  And engaging in such activity helps me visualize what I've done in skeleton outlines.

Sometimes I'll day dream for nearly an hour before returning to the typing.

Modifié par Seracen, 15 juillet 2012 - 08:49 .


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hot_heart wrote...

Odd little aside (that will lead into something relevant): was going to start watching Leverage, which a friend had downloaded but I managed to start watching episode 11 of season 1 by mistake. :P

It just so happens that before I became aware, I heard a line which I think will work perfectly in my story, with a little rephrasing: "Nothing's more dangerous than the confused when they think they know something." So...

Have you ever had inspiration in odd places?


Disney movies. For whatever reason my brain stuck on this idea of a character being very similar to Hercules' Meg, which degenerated into all of ME3 as a Disney musical. All of ME3. It was sort of funny/odd. But then that lead to a possible scene in ME2 after the suicide mission where the gang does a karaoke night so that might be fun.

And Peter Jackson's LOTR films. As I was writing the about the Skyllian Blitz I realized I was picturing Illyria (capital of Elysium) to look like the sci-fi love child of Minas Tirith and Edoras. So that was fun.

IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

Ok, here's a question for you folks; when you read a ME fanfic, do you see your Shepard or are you trying to see the author's Shepard? I've met and spoken with folks who do both.

 

I have 6 Shepards (one of each class, 3 male, 3 female) all of whom have different backgrounds, motivations etc., so I'm not really stuck in the 'this is the only kind of decision Shep will ever make'. Because 'my Shep' isn't the character in the fic, I don't project that way, I go with what the author is telling me about the Shepard of their universe. The character exists in this sort of way where every Shep will face the same decisions but they won't all make the same choice and I want to know how Jessica will react differently to Verity or Amber or Meghan. (There aren't a lot of M!Sheps kicking around this thread either. Interesting.) 

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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

Ok, here's a question for you folks; when you read a ME fanfic, do you see your Shepard or are you trying to see the author's Shepard? I've met and spoken with folks who do both.


I think my slightly unrelated answer a couple posts above answers this question too ^_^



@hot_heart: Variants of “no-one is more dangerous than he who knows little and thinks he knows all” are fairly popular :)

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Seracen wrote...

Scepsis wrote...

I guess I should introduce myself.
I'm Scepsis. (duh)

And I'm trying to get into the fanfiction scene.
I already have a couple friends interested in read my (currently WiP) fics and would love to establish a wider audience.

Tips, tricks, and any advice for a neophyte would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your help. I'll make myself at home here.

=]


Welcome!  I'm new to the ME writing scene, not so much to ME or fanfiction in general.  Best advice I think anyone can have while writing...HAVE FUN!

If it isn't flowing from your mind easily, you may not be happy with the outcome.  For when that happens to me, I go through some writing worksheets.  This has lead to some epiphanies of late, solving a few major problems I had on how to get certain scenes to work.


Thanks! I must admit, writing a smut scene between a turian and a quarian is very  fun indeed. :P

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hot_heart wrote...

Odd little aside (that will lead into something relevant): was going to start watching Leverage, which a friend had downloaded but I managed to start watching episode 11 of season 1 by mistake. :P

It just so happens that before I became aware, I heard a line which I think will work perfectly in my story, with a little rephrasing: "Nothing's more dangerous than the confused when they think they know something." So...

Have you ever had inspiration in odd places?


I've written poems from lines I've heard in movies that go sprawling into their own thing. For one of them, I can't remember the movie but the line was, "Johnny, I'm dying", and that worked out to be a PSTD-filled rambling by someone who was unsurprisingly dying from injuries that resulted from a car crash. Sometimes, I get inspiration from unexpected books as well. Recently, I've gotten ideas from "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" and Robert Munsch's "Love You Forever" to help define how some of my characters view their relationships with one another. No southern accents appear though.

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Scepsis wrote...
Thanks! I must admit, writing a smut scene between a turian and a quarian is very  fun indeed. :P


Ah yes, the "Fleet & Flotilla" line of thought.  Well done :D.  I actually like the Garrus/Tali pairing if you don't romance either.

Myself, I couldn't decide whether I wanted my current work to involve a Shepard who was with Jack, or with Liara.  So, of course, I just went with both (a la Jade Empire if you pick both Silk Fox and Dawn Star).

Cheesy?  Certainly.  Fulfilling?  Definitely.

And besides, I figure it only really affects an action-based story at a few key intervals anyway.

Modifié par Seracen, 15 juillet 2012 - 09:33 .


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Finally. I did something strange in this newest chapter — it’s only got a single scene. It was an interesting experiment.

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lillitheris wrote...
@hot_heart: Variants of “no-one is more dangerous than he who knows little and thinks he knows all” are fairly popular :)

That phrasing is reminiscent of a popular comedy conceit actually. The larger the gap between how someone perceives themself and how they are perceived by others, the better. A lot of British comedies use that.

I think I'm going with something like 'a fool's conviction', personally.

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Seracen wrote...

Scepsis wrote...
Thanks! I must admit, writing a smut scene between a turian and a quarian is very  fun indeed. :P


Ah yes, the "Fleet & Flotilla" line of thought.  Well done :D.  I actually like the Garrus/Tali pairing if you don't romance either.

Myself, I couldn't decide whether I wanted my current work to involve a Shepard who was with Jack, or with Liara.  So, of course, I just went with both (a la Jade Empire if you pick both Silk Fox and Dawn Star).

Cheesy?  Certainly.  Fulfilling?  Definitely.

And besides, I figure it only really affects an action-based story at a few key intervals anyway.


Not Tali/Garrus, but OC/OC.
I really don't think I could write canon characters.
I wouldn't do them justice.

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hot_heart wrote...

Odd little aside (that will lead into something relevant): was going to start watching Leverage, which a friend had downloaded but I managed to start watching episode 11 of season 1 by mistake. :P

It just so happens that before I became aware, I heard a line which I think will work perfectly in my story, with a little rephrasing: "Nothing's more dangerous than the confused when they think they know something." So...

Have you ever had inspiration in odd places?


Actually, a single line in Mass Effect 2 inspired me to write an entire short story for a completely unrelated genre a couple years ago. It was the "Even a dead god can dream..." line from a recording on the derelict Reaper. I ended up with an entire short story about a slain Diety of Chaos and how a village tried to survive near the site of his corpse while the world around them mutated from day-to-day.

It was a really weird story, but it was a heck of a lot of fun to write.

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I remember that line! So powerful. And it was paraphrasing Lovecraft/Lovecraft-inspired, wasn't it?

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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

Ok, here's a question for you folks; when you read a ME fanfic, do you see your Shepard or are you trying to see the author's Shepard? I've met and spoken with folks who do both.


I kind of read it in some kind of joint-parallel reality where I know it isn't my Shep, but I still see my Shep doing that kind of stuff. Sometimes I even simply stop reading for a few minutes while I go through in my head how my Shep would solve/act the current situation. A lot of my ideas have actually sprung from this.

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"That is not dead which can eternal lie yet with strange aeons even death may die.”

And, of course, the classic tune "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" ("In his house at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.")