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#3326
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 03:14
#3327
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 04:35
#3328
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 05:06
Pshhh! it's the weekend and all my friends are off vacationing in some form or another. I've had so much time to read, that it's been near embarrassing:P Seriously.Lilivati wrote...
Fluffywalrus- I can't tell you how awesome you are right now! Thank you so, so much for taking the time to read my fic so closely. That is exactly the kind of feedback I needed. If there's any way for me to return the favor, please don't hesitate to ask!
Yesterday, I woke up, got something to eat, brushed my teeth, read, ate again, read, brushed my teeth, and went to bed. That was an eighteen hour day, too. I just felt like reading. I'm really glad I had such good content to read, though, your story and Jade's story have made it quite a good time
Modifié par fluffywalrus, 22 juillet 2012 - 05:06 .
#3329
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 06:49
fluffywalrus wrote...
Pshhh! it's the weekend and all my friends are off vacationing in some form or another. I've had so much time to read, that it's been near embarrassing:P Seriously.Lilivati wrote...
Fluffywalrus- I can't tell you how awesome you are right now! Thank you so, so much for taking the time to read my fic so closely. That is exactly the kind of feedback I needed. If there's any way for me to return the favor, please don't hesitate to ask!
Yesterday, I woke up, got something to eat, brushed my teeth, read, ate again, read, brushed my teeth, and went to bed. That was an eighteen hour day, too. I just felt like reading. I'm really glad I had such good content to read, though, your story and Jade's story have made it quite a good time
Let me add another awesome to Lilivati's awesome! You are a bud!
Now, I want to read Lilivati's story.
#3330
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 06:58
#3331
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 07:32
#3332
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 08:47
#3333
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 08:58
LanceSolous13 wrote...
But, yeah, Headbutting Violent Jump-anyone-who-has-the-ball kind of Football. It sounds perfect for Krogan does it not?
Hell, look at Grunt in ME2. The Art Book says they based his armor off of a football uniform (I think they said that. Might need to double check.)
Oh man, they'd have to issue a "no killing" rule on the battle...er...playing field, upon penalty of dishonor or something. Otherwise, I'd think the council races will have found a new way to control the Krogan population count!
#3334
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 09:02
fainmaca wrote...
Seracen wrote...
Dear merciful heavens...I have a two shelves of books that look exactly like that...and I've only read half of it (used to work in a book store).
Its when you run out of shelf space, the books are stacked two-deep on each shelf, and you've now begun colonising the kitchen table that you know you've got a problem. I hadn't even left school yet and i'd already accumulated about 200 books (now the number's getting closer to twice that).
Can I cheat and add to my list Christopher Paolini? I think the fact that he started so young and yet has achieved so much is something we can all admire and (in my case, at least) aspire to imitate.
In a sort of connected point: We've all mentioned our favourite books, but the real question is: Silicon or Carbon? Do you prefer your literature on a screen or on a dead tree? People always tell me 'you should get a Kindle! You'd love it!', but I honestly couldn't think of anything I'd like less. There's just something about an honest-to-god paper book in your hands, the feel of the page, the smell it collects after a few years. A screen has no soul.
Guilty of the first bold print...
Forced myself to accept digital when I got into fanfiction, as there was simply too much content that I couldn't find on paper, but still wanted to read.
I still prefer paperbacks, however (hardbacks are difficult to curl up with).
#3335
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 09:03
hot_heart wrote...
Oh, dear. Just got a kind review from someone I am bound to disappoint, but because it's anonymous I can't warn them ahead of time.
I know the feeling.
#3336
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 09:15
LanceSolous13 wrote...
I think that, with a Krogan going at a Krogan, It would take a bit to actually kill eachother. Krogan vs. anyone else, Easier targets.hot_heart wrote...
Oh, dear. Just got a kind review from someone I am bound to disappoint, but because it's anonymous I can't warn them ahead of time.
I know the feeling.
I think the mark of a good writer is a small dash of humility, mixed with pride.
Erego, we are our own worst critics.
Having said that, I've thoroughly enjoyed traipsing through your stories, and sharing ideas with you all. Even if I don't review, it provides satisfying food for thought.
As a writer, it also provides a venue into new styles and approaches, so thanks for that as well.
#3337
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 09:20
On a side note, to whoever asked the question... Paper is far better in my opinion. I can't imagine reading any (real) books on something like a Kindle...
#3338
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 09:24
Heh. I could've done with some ideas.Seracen wrote...
Having said that, I've thoroughly enjoyed traipsing through your stories, and sharing ideas with you all. Even if
I don't review, it provides satisfying food for thought.
Modifié par hot_heart, 22 juillet 2012 - 09:27 .
#3339
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 09:27
daqs wrote...
That's, uh, Elias Kelham. Different dude.
My bad. I was wondering why he gets killed by a skycar, what was the meaning of that. doh!
#3340
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 10:34
MacNasty wrote...
Anyone else ever had the feeling where you were just writing a lot, just churning out paragraphs... Then suddenly you can't write anymore? It's a rather annoying feeling...
I tend to have the opposite problem: starting. I put off starting with all kinds of excuses, but I don’t (usually) have issues
On a side note, to whoever asked the question... Paper is far better in my opinion. I can't imagine reading any (real) books on something like a Kindle...
Can’t agree! She says as she wanders toward the bed with her tablet and its 500 books
…
Oh, on topic of dreams. I think I’ve mentioned that I don’t really like prophetic dreams or dreams where you talk to dead people and actually get something useful out of it, and so on. This makes me leery of writing them. Still, I’ve managed to write now three dream sequences…the first one was more or less pointless, but the two latter ones (Ch. 12 and the newest, Ch. 28) are meaningful on an emotional level and in context, not in themselves.
Anyway, I think I had a question…how do you feel about dream sequences, and writing them? Feel free to critique mine, or offer up good ones! My main guideline for dreams is that strange things happen naturally—the place you’re going to is suddenly entirely different, the person you’re talking to changes, things like that; but that’s only drawing from my own experience.
#3341
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 10:42
I do like my Kindle. I partly got one because I want to read more and I'm running out of space for all my books, DVDs, etc. (though some ebooks are just stupidly priced), but it's also handy for when I'm reading in bed. In long stretches I shift about, and have to hold the book with two hands or wind up damaging the spine.
Plus, you can look up words you don't know...even if it turns out they are all just 'n. ARCHAIC', as in ASOIAF's case.
Modifié par hot_heart, 22 juillet 2012 - 10:42 .
#3342
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 10:44
I enjoy dream sequences, so long as they're well written and not super mega prophetic. I tend to have the ones I write be reflective of the character's subconscious, of the conflicts going on in their mind. If I do more than two, I prefer similar settings to establish a pattern for the readers to know it's a dream. Things can happen instantaneously, such as individuals vanishing in thin air, only to be replaced by another soon after, or to appear in an entirely different spot. Stuff like that.lillitheris wrote...
MacNasty wrote...
Anyone else ever had the feeling where you were just writing a lot, just churning out paragraphs... Then suddenly you can't write anymore? It's a rather annoying feeling...
I tend to have the opposite problem: starting. I put off starting with all kinds of excuses, but I don’t (usually) have issuesOn a side note, to whoever asked the question... Paper is far better in my opinion. I can't imagine reading any (real) books on something like a Kindle...
Can’t agree! She says as she wanders toward the bed with her tablet and its 500 books
…
Oh, on topic of dreams. I think I’ve mentioned that I don’t really like prophetic dreams or dreams where you talk to dead people and actually get something useful out of it, and so on. This makes me leery of writing them. Still, I’ve managed to write now three dream sequences…the first one was more or less pointless, but the two latter ones (Ch. 12 and the newest, Ch. 28) are meaningful on an emotional level and in context, not in themselves.
Anyway, I think I had a question…how do you feel about dream sequences, and writing them? Feel free to critique mine, or offer up good ones! My main guideline for dreams is that strange things happen naturally—the place you’re going to is suddenly entirely different, the person you’re talking to changes, things like that; but that’s only drawing from my own experience.
#3343
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 10:47
At the moment, I'm using Dreams to show memories of Miranda and Shepard relationship because its just easier to get those things across.
#3344
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 11:12
fluffywalrus wrote...
I enjoy dream sequences, so long as they're well written and not super mega prophetic. I tend to have the ones I write be reflective of the character's subconscious, of the conflicts going on in their mind. If I do more than two, I prefer similar settings to establish a pattern for the readers to know it's a dream. Things can happen instantaneously, such as individuals vanishing in thin air, only to be replaced by another soon after, or to appear in an entirely different spot. Stuff like that.lillitheris wrote...
Anyway, I think I had a question…how do you feel about dream sequences, and writing them? Feel free to critique mine, or offer up good ones! My main guideline for dreams is that strange things happen naturally—the place you’re going to is suddenly entirely different, the person you’re talking to changes, things like that; but that’s only drawing from my own experience.
I had an elaborate post with a detailed dream sequence example, but I accidentally hit the back button and i'm too lazy to type it up again.
Dreams, I feel, have an internal logic and motion that isn't easily discernable to the waking mind. As long as the dream makes sense in their own self-contained world, I'm all right with it. Shifts in environments, in people in your dreams is perfeclty naturally, but I think they have to make sense in the context of what is being written about.
It's jarring to have a character dream about pollution in the sea and lobster-hands when they're in an advertising executive in a major metropolis city and have never been to the coast in their life. If a history/preocuppation/encounter with something from the sea has been hinted at beforehand, that's great. If it's never been brought up before, then the author is probably just throwing images together in an attempt to make what s/he think passes for a dream.
Dreams are an excellent vehicle for displaying any conflict that the character may be unable to resolve in waking life. I do believe that they should have their own internal logic and flow, but other than that, as long as the author isn't just throwing a bunch of random changes in the passage, I'm fine with most sequences.
Ex: "Ed turned into a duck then a fish then a duck with fish lips. Then he looked at the judge and the judge slapped him with a bumper sticker in Arabic. The baliff tossed him out the window, and suddenly he was flying amongst skyscrapers and he was a squirrel. Then his robot hands reached out and cradle a newborn girafffe in his hands, and he held the new-born at the top of Pride Rock, declaring him the new king of the area."
An example of what irriates me when I read dream sequences. Symbolism is fine as long as it's symbolism that eventually makes sense and isn't there to just to let people know it's a dream. It could be that my dreams are unusally logical in their movements too. I wouldn't think so, but my nightmares are very plot-oriented.
If it helps/interest anybody, in Vietnamese culture, there is a belief that if a dead person appears in your dream and requests something, you cannot refuse it, and to do so would bring disaster upon you and your family. There's usually the belief that the dead use dreams to resolve issues that they couldn't do in life or have left unresolved.
Edit: I hadn't meant for this to be so long. Guess I'm just passionate about well-written dream sequences.
Modifié par Icyflare, 22 juillet 2012 - 11:26 .
#3345
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 11:41
On the other hand, as people who have been reading my fic might have noticed, I am fond of them as a way to fill out pieces of a character's backstory. I know that I do have dreams (frequently) about particularly tragic points in my past, and I imagine most people would. I like using it as a window to get into important events of a character's past on the fly, rather than writing a detailed backstory over the course of chapters that has nothing to do with the plot except for the way it ties into the character's motivations or personality. A dream about the death of a loved one, for example, can give readers a look at a particularly powerful turning point in a character's past without needing to delve into the character's history in unnecessary detail.
#3346
Posté 22 juillet 2012 - 11:54
#3347
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 01:16
#3348
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 03:18
hot_heart - I love it when readers think they know where the story is going but don't ... As a reader myself, I like surprises so hopefully my stories catch its readers off-guard a bit.
#3349
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 04:14
#3350
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 04:25
Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
So, any thoughts on my new chapter? It took me a few days to write that. Was having time trying to figure out what other characters like Wrex and Grunt would say, so I kind of winged it.
I'll check it out. Might wait until tomorrow (technically today) though. Hope you don't mind.





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