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[xIxDarkWolfxIx]

fluffywalrus wrote...

xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

fluffywalrus wrote...

I don't see the harm in doing that. I'd say that your listed conventions make sense, though if I recall Cronos station is named after Cronos, a Greek Titan...which could complicate things.

However, I'm probably not the one to answer this question, I generally accept ship names as whatever people say they are, so long as they seem legitimate.

Oh yeah, forgot about Cronos. I could look to Roman mythology instead. Thanks for pointing it out. =)

I mean, it's not something I think most would pick up on or scrutinize. I think how you laid it out is pretty decent. It's just there's that tiny issue. Roman mythology could work, though.

I've found that this will work quite well for me.
Dreadnought - Olympus (The mountain at which the gods reside.)
Carriers - Jupiter, Juno, Minerva (The three guardins of Rome) 
Cruisers - Zeus, Apollo (Greek gods.)
Frigates - Achilles, Odysseus, Perseus, Diomedes (Mortal Greek heroes)

This means throughout this story, there will be a limit to the number of Cerberus vessels. But that is perfectly logical considering Cerberus is still only just beginning their enlargment process. A dreadnought, three carriers, up to 12 Cruisers and countless frigates are more than enough.  

Modifié par xIxDarkWolfxIx, 25 juillet 2012 - 10:58 .

[lillitheris]

Carriers are a huge undertaking, arguably even moreso than dreadnoughts, but that depends on scale, of course. If the Cerberus carriers are smaller (a few dozen fighters as opposed to hundreds or thousands), you should work that in the descriptions somewhere. Also, you need fighters for them to be meaningful (as I understand it, both dreadnoughts and cruisers carry some number of fighters as well).

My perspective is that the way Cerberus transforms between ME2 and ME3 seems strictly based on their indoctrination process; this means that they can create armies of people extremely fast—as well as take whatever possessions they have—but they can’t construct things at an equal pace. As such, they’d mostly have to rely on stolen and/or civilian ships for their needs. This leads to their mostly ground force-based tactics.

You definitely have some liberty without sacrificing believability, but at best you’re still dealing with maybe a two-year timeframe for all this to happen. If you go fully AU, that of course changes things completely.

[xIxDarkWolfxIx]

lillitheris wrote...

Carriers are a huge undertaking, arguably even moreso than dreadnoughts, but that depends on scale, of course. If the Cerberus carriers are smaller (a few dozen fighters as opposed to hundreds or thousands), you should work that in the descriptions somewhere. Also, you need fighters for them to be meaningful (as I understand it, both dreadnoughts and cruisers carry some number of fighters as well).

My perspective is that the way Cerberus transforms between ME2 and ME3 seems strictly based on their indoctrination process; this means that they can create armies of people extremely fast—as well as take whatever possessions they have—but they can’t construct things at an equal pace. As such, they’d mostly have to rely on stolen and/or civilian ships for their needs. This leads to their mostly ground force-based tactics.

You definitely have some liberty without sacrificing believability, but at best you’re still dealing with maybe a two-year timeframe for all this to happen. If you go fully AU, that of course changes things completely.

I understand this completely. I hope to give clear explanations. 
The carriers will be of similar size to cruisers, nothing like the Alliance carriers. The dreadnought however will be a hulking death machine, similar in size to the SSV Everest. I want to keep this as accurate as possible and within the timeframe of ME2 to ME3. 
Cerberus manages to acquire their own cruisers so the idea of them having similar sized carriers and a single dreadnought is not impossible. 

One last thing. It is likely Cerberus began the construction of these vessels well before their indoctrination process as a defence against the Reapers. The story will be taking place over the year between ME2 and ME3, more than enough time to turn Cerberus from questionable to hostile. 

Modifié par xIxDarkWolfxIx, 25 juillet 2012 - 11:08 .

[kann.nix9mm]

xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

I've found that this will work quite well for me.
Dreadnought - Olympus (The mountain at which the gods reside.)
Carriers - Jupiter, Juno, Minerva (The three guardins of Rome) 
Cruisers - Zeus, Apollo (Greek gods.)
Frigates - Achilles, Odysseus, Perseus, Diomedes (Mortal Greek heroes)

This means throughout this story, there will be a limit to the number of Cerberus vessels. But that is perfectly logical considering Cerberus is still only just beginning their enlargment process. A dreadnought, three carriers, up to 12 Cruisers and countless frigates are more than enough.  

Why dont you do it like the S.A. in ME?

Dreadnought - Mountains
Carriers - great historical personalities
Cruisers - citys
Frigates - battleplaces on Earth

[xIxDarkWolfxIx]

kann.nix9mm wrote...

xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

I've found that this will work quite well for me.
Dreadnought - Olympus (The mountain at which the gods reside.)
Carriers - Jupiter, Juno, Minerva (The three guardins of Rome) 
Cruisers - Zeus, Apollo (Greek gods.)
Frigates - Achilles, Odysseus, Perseus, Diomedes (Mortal Greek heroes)

This means throughout this story, there will be a limit to the number of Cerberus vessels. But that is perfectly logical considering Cerberus is still only just beginning their enlargment process. A dreadnought, three carriers, up to 12 Cruisers and countless frigates are more than enough.  

Why dont you do it like the S.A. in ME?

Dreadnought - Mountains
Carriers - great historical personalities
Cruisers - citys
Frigates - battleplaces on Earth

Because that is the Systems Alliance method. I think Cerberus should have their own. It's to ensure that confusion is reduced to a miniumum. The difference between CSV Everest and SSV Everest are little when reading, some people may not pick it up. But a difference between CSV Aphrodite and SSV York, is quite pronounced. 

Modifié par xIxDarkWolfxIx, 25 juillet 2012 - 12:45 .

[JadeDragonMTR]

@lillitheris I like how you named the hospital ships after the major river on Earth in ME4: Unity. It makes sense.

Modifié par JadeDragonMTR, 25 juillet 2012 - 06:58 .

[lillitheris]

JadeDragonMTR wrote...

@lillitheris I like how you named the hospital ships after the major river on Earth in ME4: Unity. It makes sense.

I figured it’d go with the theme of naming, and incorporated the oldest remedy in the world, water.

[JadeDragonMTR]

lillitheris wrote...

JadeDragonMTR wrote...

@lillitheris I like how you named the hospital ships after the major river on Earth in ME4: Unity. It makes sense.

I figured it’d go with the theme of naming, and incorporated the oldest remedy in the world, water.

It also follows the convention of the ME ships named after heroes, in spirit.

[hot_heart]

Ugh, it's too damn hot. I can't concentrate at all.
I'm just gonna keep bashing out words and sort them out later, I think...

Yes, the Englishman is complaining when the summer weather finally arrives...

[JadeDragonMTR]

Oh, yeah? I'm in Texas, and it's 102 here! My pool is 94 degrees. Want to switch places?

[xIxDarkWolfxIx]

Does anyone know of some good First Contact Fanfics? I don't mind if they are AU. I have read "First Contact" which I thought was a quirky, realistic-ish, take on an AU first contact. Anything similar come to mind?

[RoboticWays]

Thats nothing ^ Heat index was 115 yesterday here in Florida.

Also, I like the Gods of Mythology idea. Cerberus itself was the 3 headed hound in Greek mythology so it would make sense to name ships after that.

[hot_heart]

But don't you guys have air conditioning? I have...a fan.

[JadeDragonMTR]

I've got a Miranda question seeing all your experts here: do you think there is a defining point or an event in ME2 when Miranda switches her loyalty from Ceberus to Shepard, or is that a gradual thing?

Modifié par JadeDragonMTR, 25 juillet 2012 - 09:56 .

[RoboticWays]

hot_heart wrote...

But don't you guys have air conditioning? I have...a fan.

Haha, no my ACU is totally fried. I do have a plug-in fan as well as a ceiling fan on full blast in just about every room though.

[RoboticWays]

JadeDragonMTR wrote...

I've got a Miranda question seeing all your experts here: do you think there is a defining point or an event in ME2 when Miranda switches her loyalty from Ceberus to Shepard, or is that a gradual thing?

I believe it would be the increase in aggresiveness and brutality of Cerberus' actions (i.e. the indoctrination of officers). Are you talking about a LI Miranda or just regular Miranda?

[Icyflare]

Hmm... I have a question to people who are familiar with English accents. From what region of England does Traynor's accent come from? I think Chakwas has one too, but I'm not sure where that's from either.

[Icyflare]

JadeDragonMTR wrote...

I've got a Miranda question seeing all your experts here: do you think there is a defining point or an event in ME2 when Miranda switches her loyalty from Ceberus to Shepard, or is that a gradual thing?

I would think that it's gradual but with spikes in its development where certain missions/incidents can greatly influence how she feels about Shepard like her loyalty mission or the fight with Jack.

[hot_heart]

JadeDragonMTR wrote...
I've got a Miranda question seeing all your experts here: do you think there is a defining point or an event in ME2 when Miranda switches her loyalty from Ceberus to Shepard, or is that a gradual thing?

I think it was a gradual thing that reached a head at the end of ME2. With Teltin and the stuff Shepard witnessed in ME1, she was confident enough to dismiss it as rogue cells; effectively, there was some level of denial.

After being aboard the derelict Reaper, and when she saw what had been happening in the Collector base, she may have understood how these projects could've gone off the rails and that's why she resigned. Though, when I referenced it in my own fic, I brought in some daddy issues too.

If you want more perspectives, the guys in this thread are always very helpful.

Ultimately, though, you could probably present it a few ways, so it's up to you.

Icyflare wrote...
Hmm... I have a question to people who are
familiar with English accents. From what region of England does
Traynor's accent come from? I think Chakwas has one too, but I'm not
sure where that's from either.

It's a fairly middle-class London/southern accent. IChakwas' is southern too but she sounds a tiny bit more posh, though that may just be her age.

Modifié par hot_heart, 25 juillet 2012 - 10:15 .

[JadeDragonMTR]

RoboticWays wrote...

JadeDragonMTR wrote...

I've got a Miranda question seeing all your experts here: do you think there is a defining point or an event in ME2 when Miranda switches her loyalty from Ceberus to Shepard, or is that a gradual thing?

I believe it would be the increase in aggresiveness and brutality of Cerberus' actions (i.e. the indoctrination of officers). Are you talking about a LI Miranda or just regular Miranda?

Just regular Miranda in ME2 time frame. It's stil quite a bit of way away for my story to get to her, but I've been thinking about the approach. I have a Femshep with Liara as LI. 

[JadeDragonMTR]

hot_heart wrote...

JadeDragonMTR wrote...
I've got a Miranda question seeing all your experts here: do you think there is a defining point or an event in ME2 when Miranda switches her loyalty from Ceberus to Shepard, or is that a gradual thing?

I think it was a gradual thing that reached a head at the end of ME2. With Teltin and the stuff Shepard witnessed in ME1, she was confident enough to dismiss it as rogue cells; effectively, there was some level of denial.

After being aboard the derelict Reaper, and when she saw what had been happening in the Collector base, she may have understood how these projects could've gone off the rails and that's why she resigned. Though, when I referenced it in my own fic, I brought in some daddy issues too.

If you want more perspectives, the guys in this thread are always very helpful.

Ultimately, though, you could probably present it a few ways, so it's up to you.

Icyflare wrote...
Hmm... I have a question to people who are
familiar with English accents. From what region of England does
Traynor's accent come from? I think Chakwas has one too, but I'm not
sure where that's from either.

It's a fairly middle-class London/southern accent. IChakwas' is southern too but she sounds a tiny bit more posh, though that may just be her age.

Thanks for the link! Will check that out. Very useful!

[Icyflare]

hot_heart wrote...

Icyflare wrote...
Hmm... I have a question to people who are familiar with English accents. From what region of England does Traynor's accent come from? I think Chakwas has one too, but I'm not sure where that's from either.

It's a fairly middle-class London/southern accent. Chakwas' is southern too but she sounds a tiny bit more posh, though that may just be her age.

Age makes you posher. Got it. Thanks =P

[hot_heart]

JadeDragonMTR wrote...
Thanks for the link! Will check that out. Very useful!

You're welcome.

You could play with a few possibilities, depending on who features in your story or what angles you take. Obviously, Jack serves as an example of the horrors that Cerberus can lead to, but the 'end result' is impressive to some extent.

And you're probably aware of this, but I shall link it anyway...because it's gooood.

Icyflare wrote...
Age makes you posher. Got it. Thanks =P

You don't think the Queen started out sounding like that, do you?
Looking at some clips though, yeah, she sounds almost upper-class whereas Traynor just speaks properly (a London accent can vary quite significantly).

Modifié par hot_heart, 25 juillet 2012 - 10:32 .

[JadeDragonMTR]

hot_heart wrote...

JadeDragonMTR wrote...
Thanks for the link! Will check that out. Very useful!

You're welcome.

You could play with a few possibilities, depending on who features in your story or what angles you take. Obviously, Jack serves as an example of the horrors that Cerberus can lead to, but the 'end result' is impressive to some extent.

And you're probably aware of this, but I shall link it anyway...because it's gooood.

She's a bad a***! I wish they'd let Femshep romance her with more dialogues! 

[hot_heart]

Writing a romance scene from the opposite gender's perspective, no matter how brief, is certainly uncomfortable. Why did I do this?