Fanfic Writers’ Support Group
#4551
Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 11:24
I was having problems, once again, with how to express something and got stuck there…this flew past that part—although I will still need to go back there and improve it…
#4552
Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 03:22
lillitheris wrote...
Success in writing using the technique I always forget, which is just typing the entire scene in short notes, which keeps the flow going, and only then going back and writing out the content for the notes.
I was having problems, once again, with how to express something and got stuck there…this flew past that part—although I will still need to go back there and improve it…
I've done this many times. Very good advice!
#4553
Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 07:32
#4554
Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 08:00
#4555
Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 08:07
lillitheris wrote...
There’re a few, check the OC section of the fanfic list (sticky or first link in signature).
Thanks very much.
#4556
Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 08:31
Modifié par Cmdr. Ken Shepard, 05 septembre 2012 - 08:48 .
#4557
Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 08:42
Modifié par Spiritwolf1, 05 septembre 2012 - 08:43 .
#4558
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 12:19
I usually stick to silver. Had a trying time on gold earlier, wasn't looking for it actually but the host took one look at the N7 ratings and probably the loadouts and thought the PUG could do it. Might have. Except that one fella kept getting gunned down and I usually bought it trying to revive him. Wiped at wave 10, trying to revive him again and ran out of medigel. Huzzah. And of course, this fellow was the one with the smallest acheivement bar.
I also don't bother reviving those who went out shooting during escort missions. 3 of us were with the drone and the 4th was usually at the other end of the map. Same thing with hacking missions.
Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 06 septembre 2012 - 12:24 .
#4559
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 12:23
#4560
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 12:56
#4561
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 01:21
I think words per hour might be a better metric, since everyone’s chapters are of different lengths. I’ve found that I can usually write about 400 words per hour if I actually focus—which with my chapters usually a bit above 2500 words makes it something like a 7-hour effort each, plus then checking and revising. This translates to about two per week…although I’ve been slacking, I was maybe a little miffed by the last two chapters. (But finally published today!)
Aaanyway, what’s the time-consuming part for you? Is there anything that you’ve identified as a problem yourself? Is it the story, the writing (and maybe dialogue vs. narration?), the editing…? How do you usually split your time?
Modifié par lillitheris, 06 septembre 2012 - 01:22 .
#4562
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 01:32
#4563
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 01:40
Spiritwolf1 wrote...
Huh, I was just doing a scene in the council chambers and I brought up the map. I had never looked at a map of the council chambers before and had no idea it was shaped like a reaper
I was just wondering if someone could clarify something for me. I assume 'OC' stands for 'Original Characters'? If so, does that refer to characters invented by the writer and not existing characters e.g. Garrus ?
#4564
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 01:41
lillitheris wrote...
Welcome!
I think words per hour might be a better metric, since everyone’s chapters are of different lengths. I’ve found that I can usually write about 400 words per hour if I actually focus—which with my chapters usually a bit above 2500 words makes it something like a 7-hour effort each, plus then checking and revising. This translates to about two per week…although I’ve been slacking, I was maybe a little miffed by the last two chapters. (But finally published today!)
Aaanyway, what’s the time-consuming part for you? Is there anything that you’ve identified as a problem yourself? Is it the story, the writing (and maybe dialogue vs. narration?), the editing…? How do you usually split your time?
The time consumer for me is probably working with the plot of my story. Most of the time I find it quite challenging to think what will come next. I'm not actually a planner so I tend to just sit down and write off the top of my head. I mean I outline a bit, but it doesn't help much. Also the dialogue between two characters. I find it difficult to really think about what that character will actually say, so Sometimes I sit and think of what that character would acutually say or do the thing I write for them. I just hate if the characters in my story come off as OOC. So yeah, I'd say most of my time is spun thinking about what and how to write then actually do it
Modifié par mosesarose, 06 septembre 2012 - 01:43 .
#4565
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 01:42
Nothing ever actually goes that smoothly, however, unless I have the entire chapter already played out in my head. Generally there are parts that I reconsidered or modify on re-reading, etc. My turn around time these days is averaging at a week and a half to two weeks.
I personally do very little editing of my own, instead relying on my beta readers because I'm personally awful at editing. I tend to 'read over' errors and mentally correct them so they don't register.
Edit: Yes, OC means Original Character, IE created by the author and not canon.
Modifié par Tairis Deamhan, 06 septembre 2012 - 01:43 .
#4566
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 01:47
Tairis Deamhan wrote...
I personally do very little editing of my own, instead relying on my beta readers because I'm personally awful at editing. I tend to 'read over' errors and mentally correct them so they don't register.
I know what you mean, I re-read and edit my story about three times before posting. But when I finally do post I still find errors that I miss. It's so frustrating
#4567
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 01:48
mosesarose wrote...
The time consumer for me is probably working with the plot of my story. Most of the time I find it quite challenging to think what will come next. I'm not actually a planner so I tend to just sit down and write off the top of my head. I mean I outline a bit, but it doesn't help much. Also the dialogue between two characters. I find it difficult to really think about what that character will actually say, so Sometimes I sit and think of what that character would acutually say or do the thing I write for them. I just hate if the characters in my story come off as OOC. So yeah, I'd say most of my time is spun thinking about what and how to write then actually do it
You could try the ‘technique’ I described a few posts ago: write the scene in short cliff’s notes so that you keep pace throughout it, rather than get bogged down in details. You could even do a second pass over the notes to expand them a little, for example expanding dialogues to the content of what is said. Then, start writing out those small notes into the story proper.
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OCs, curiously, don’t really even count characters that you de facto create. For example, my Hannah Shepard is not in any way defined as a character in the games but she’s not really considered an OC either—because she does exist.
Modifié par lillitheris, 06 septembre 2012 - 01:49 .
#4568
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 01:56
lillitheris wrote...
You could try the ‘technique’ I described a few posts ago: write the scene in short cliff’s notes so that you keep pace throughout it, rather than get bogged down in details. You could even do a second pass over the notes to expand them a little, for example expanding dialogues to the content of what is said. Then, start writing out those small notes into the story proper.
This is a *very* good technique that I'd highly recommend. I tend to do a stripped down version myself, writing the opening scene and then jotting down a skeleton outline of notes for scenes in the chapter.
OCs, curiously, don’t really even count characters that you de facto create. For example, my Hannah Shepard is not in any way defined as a character in the games but she’s not really considered an OC either—because she does exist.
Wierd ain't it? I use Hannah in my story as well and I'm sure aside from the name both of ours are completely different characters.
#4569
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 01:57
@ mosesarose
In my experience writing is actually very unpredictable. Don't try and plan too much. You have to actually trust that new ideas will come to you during the writing proccess.
Also I hate to set targets like write an x number of words in x amount of time. That sets up pressure. If you're the kind of person who performs well under such pressure, then go for it.
Try to get things down on paper - even if they're not perfect. You can change your mind and edit later. There's nothing more intimidating than the dreaded blank page, believe me.
#4570
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 02:29
AustereLemur799 wrote...
I'm just being really paranoid about giving Bioware due credit and not claiming it for myself. I thought I'd been meticulous about scrawling disclaimers at the beginning of every chapter. Knowing me, over-compensating will probably leave a big gap somewhere to catch me out.
Just a quick FYI these 'disclaimers' are pretty much just for the writers peace of mind. They have no legal bearing or relevance, nor would they matter at all in a court of law. At the same time BW and EA also can't just turn around and sue you for a million dollars or something. The worst they can do is send you a cease and desist order.
#4571
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 03:09
#4572
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 03:12
AustereLemur799 wrote...
^ You're making me more paranoid now. Does that mean we're all in trouble?
No, it means you can stop writing disclaimers everywhere
#4573
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 03:14
Not likely though. Force of habit. I'm a really, really paranoid and over-sensitive person.
#4574
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 06:58
#4575
Posté 06 septembre 2012 - 07:44
lillitheris wrote...
Legally speaking you’re just as protected if you have the disclaimer at the beginning of your story than if you include it on every page.
That being not at all
All that BW is going to do if, for some bizarre reason, they decide they want all the FF to go away is issue a cease and desist. It's just a letter from lawyers that says 'stop doing whatever it is you're doing that made us send this letter'.
To try and sue someone for money you have to prove damages, loss of profits, etc.
Translation: Don't worry about it.





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