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#4601
lillitheris

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daqs wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

the last thing I need is even less time for writing prose.

Agreed. :<


Unsubtle hint? :P I’ll try for Tuesday…

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*sigh*

Got somebody leaving reviews on my story purely to argue my views on Leviathan rather than actually critiquing the chapter. When I pointed that out, they said they didn't read the story. Somebody quoted me on the forums, so they went over to FF.net to correct me.

Joy....

#4603
lillitheris

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Meh, it’s probably easy to figure out they’re clueless, and they pad your review count :P

Can always take the rare step of leaving a correction in the reviews, but you’ve gotta have discipline with that. I’d probably not worry about it.

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Hey guys, I've been writing my Mshep/Ashley Fic for awhile now

http://www.fanfictio...2325/1/End-Game

It is kinda rough at the beginning, due to it being my first ever, but it gets better... hope you enjoy

#4605
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I know, its just... I upload a completed chapter (before now I'd only had half up), and the only feedback I've gotten was from a guy who didn't bother to read it (said in the only other review he gave me that I wrote too much and he wasn't about to read it all, with a comment that shorter chapters might convince him to read it, but even then maybe not. But at least that was constructive.) and instead only went over to that site to tell me how wrong I was.

Kind of wears you out, you know?

Ach, well. Imma write a chapter with my Kung Fu Quarian. That always brightens my day.

And yes, the Kung Fu Quarian is really a thing. It is!

#4606
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Isn't there an option for moderating reviews like that if it really bothers you? Personally, I'd just leave it there, since most people probably don't read the reviews anyway... I certainly don't read the reviews on other peoples' stories, as I like to form my own opinion... but I am sorry to hear that someone decided to go over and harass you on FF.net just for your views on Leviathan over here. Sounds to me like writing about Kung Fu Quarian is just the thing. I have my character like that too (or rather, pairing) writing scenes with the two in question always brightens my mood.

#4607
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You can report signed reviews and delete unsigned ones. His is signed, but he's not being abusive. Just acting in a way that I find depressing. You know, criticism and condescension over personal opinion and all that.

Truth is I stated my opinion over there in my post-chapter Author's Note. It got quoted over here apparently (haven't seen where), and he felt the need to go over there to set me straight.

Normally I'd write about my Batarian squaddie. However, my readers got him killed (the chapter in question featured his funeral). So I guess I'll settle for the Kung Fu Quarian. :)

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Drussius wrote...

 I certainly don't read the reviews on other peoples' stories, as I like to form my own opinion...


This is an interesting sidenote. I actually usually do read reviews, but only for the chapters I have read. It’s nice/interesting to see how others see the chapters, maybe catch some insights or things I missed.

The only exception is if I feel the story is somehow lacking, but it has a fair number of reviews. In that case, I might peek ahead to see if there’s an indication of things improving.

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I try not to read reviews when I'm about to leave my own, but otherwise, I do habitually. Curious to see what other people like about the story and what aspects of it strike people. Surely, lil and I can't be the only ones that read the reviews here.

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I do also leave mine first, yes.

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fainmaca wrote...

I know, its just... I upload a completed chapter (before now I'd only had half up), and the only feedback I've gotten was from a guy who didn't bother to read it (said in the only other review he gave me that I wrote too much and he wasn't about to read it all, with a comment that shorter chapters might convince him to read it, but even then maybe not. But at least that was constructive.) and instead only went over to that site to tell me how wrong I was.

Kind of wears you out, you know?

Ach, well. Imma write a chapter with my Kung Fu Quarian. That always brightens my day.

And yes, the Kung Fu Quarian is really a thing. It is!


Ignore the obvious troll. Don't let it get you down.

The stuff with chapter length is kind of a personal preference. Long things aren't everyone's cup of tea. I don't see why people should tell you to shorten your work if you set out to make it long (intentionally or unintentionally Posted Image). If he doesn't want to read it; I don't see that as your loss - only his.

#4612
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Finally managed to get my latest chapter out, about a week and one day behind schedule Posted Image (not that I really have one).

It's probably rubbish but I'm honestly just so pleased that I nurtured it into coherent prose when I really struggled like never before.

As ever, I'll let someone else in my family check the reviews. I really don't care for hits and reviews - unless it's something constructive. I do have one faithful reviewer who has actually really helped me to streamline my ideas for the next chapter. I wonder if they realise the subtle nods to their opinions in my writing Posted Image.

Otherwise I can expect a nerve-wracking night. I'm moving out of home within the next couple of weeks, so it's really a bad time for me. And then I have to go through the joy of writing the next chapter and going through all the motions all over again... Posted Image 

I wish I could remind myself why I ever thought this was a good idea to begin with, but I'm coming up empty Posted Image

#4613
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Good luck with the move! Or maybe more ‘congrats on’?



There is one legitimate problem with long chapters: it’s hard to bookmark them (without third-party tools) if/when you can’t read them in one sitting, and want to pick up where you left off. Granted, it’s not a huge problem, but still.

Modifié par lillitheris, 09 septembre 2012 - 09:29 .


#4614
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Hey folks. I posted a few chapters in the last few weeks. It features my villain again. I know people were sort of complaining how plot armor made it seem like he was invulnerable to any attack.

I sort of hoped I fixed that here. Take a looksy!

Call of the Hound Part 1

This chapter is the build up to the confrontation.

Call of the Hound Part 2

This chapter is the actual confrontation.

Please, let me know what you think!

#4615
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^ Luck I could do with! I'm being kicked out... I have nothing going for me apart from writing, and writing fanfiction isn't any kind of legitimate future. I'm gonna go abroad and hope that my dad will take me in. Never mind (for some reason I always spill my guts to you guys Posted Image).

I understand your qualm about bookmarks. But even in a book, all you can do is fold the corner of a page (unless you're fine with scrawling over things).

Actually I'm not really qualified to even talk about this. I don't read any of my stuff on FFN - I imagine it must give one hell of a headache to anyone reading it. Especially since I noticed how their software just removes all your nice paragraphs and line spaces Posted Image 

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^ Yeah. My chapters look much prettier before being posted to FF.net. I do wish there were more formatting options available on the site. Of course, prior to starting to publish there, I wrote my stories like you'd read in a book. Indent at the beginning of each paragraph, but no spaces between paragraphs.

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AustereLemur799 wrote...

^ Luck I could do with! I'm being kicked out... I have nothing going for me apart from writing, and writing fanfiction isn't any kind of legitimate future. I'm gonna go abroad and hope that my dad will take me in. Never mind (for some reason I always spill my guts to you guys Posted Image).


Well, it is a support group. Good luck in that case! I’m sure it’ll work out.

I understand your qualm about bookmarks. But even in a book, all you can do is fold the corner of a page (unless you're fine with scrawling over things).


True. Software like Readability and Instapaper work much better in that respect, especially on a tablet but on a regular computer too.

Actually I'm not really qualified to even talk about this. I don't read any of my stuff on FFN - I imagine it must give one hell of a headache to anyone reading it. Especially since I noticed how their software just removes all your nice paragraphs and line spaces Posted Image 


It’s pretty bad, yes. There are only a few things that can be used reliably…I was hoping AO3 would be better in this respect, but it’s only so by a small margin. Small enough to not really be worth it.

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 So, did anyone take a look at those two chapters yet? Am I writing Caleb better than before, or does he still need some work?

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I just had three hours sleep in more then 72 hours, am working elongated shifts at work, had the most pathetic hockey game I have played in a very long long time and to top it off my last chapter was a complete bust, except for Fluffy, always supporting me, I got no reviews. I hope the a bundle of sleep (Whenever maybe in a couple days from now) Ill feel better but I am almost tempted to just pull the chapter and start over again, except that I really needed the information that was in it.

To top it off Im not even sure what I did wrong in the chapter.

Anyway thats me bellyaching and I really hope that when I eventually get some sleep I feel better about writing. Its the first really bad chapter I have had and combined with some other comments over time about my writing it's a bit heartbreaking. Kinda wonder how one gets past that.

#4620
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Spiritwolf1 wrote...

I just had three hours sleep in more then 72 hours, am working elongated shifts at work, had the most pathetic hockey game I have played in a very long long time and to top it off my last chapter was a complete bust, except for Fluffy, always supporting me, I got no reviews. I hope the a bundle of sleep (Whenever maybe in a couple days from now) Ill feel better but I am almost tempted to just pull the chapter and start over again, except that I really needed the information that was in it.

To top it off Im not even sure what I did wrong in the chapter.

Anyway thats me bellyaching and I really hope that when I eventually get some sleep I feel better about writing. Its the first really bad chapter I have had and combined with some other comments over time about my writing it's a bit heartbreaking. Kinda wonder how one gets past that.

Why do you think its bad? Has anyone actually told you that? You are your worst critic and whatnot.

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Spiritwolf1 wrote...

I just had three hours sleep in more then 72 hours, am working elongated shifts at work, had the most pathetic hockey game I have played in a very long long time and to top it off my last chapter was a complete bust, except for Fluffy, always supporting me, I got no reviews. I hope the a bundle of sleep (Whenever maybe in a couple days from now) Ill feel better but I am almost tempted to just pull the chapter and start over again, except that I really needed the information that was in it.

To top it off Im not even sure what I did wrong in the chapter.

Anyway thats me bellyaching and I really hope that when I eventually get some sleep I feel better about writing. Its the first really bad chapter I have had and combined with some other comments over time about my writing it's a bit heartbreaking. Kinda wonder how one gets past that.

I'd say sleep on it then reassess it in the morning. You're exhausted and disappointed by the reception of your latest chapter. Most likely, your assessment of the piece won't be as objective as you may think it is. Anyways, I don't know how long your chapter's been up, but some times, all the reviews for a chapter can come at once and other times, trickle in slowly during the course of a week or so. If you're really concerned that it may be a bad example of your writing, post it here, and we can comment on it.

Modifié par Icyflare, 10 septembre 2012 - 03:03 .


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Spiritwolf1 wrote...

I just had three hours sleep in more then 72 hours, am working elongated shifts at work, had the most pathetic hockey game I have played in a very long long time and to top it off my last chapter was a complete bust, except for Fluffy, always supporting me, I got no reviews. I hope the a bundle of sleep (Whenever maybe in a couple days from now) Ill feel better but I am almost tempted to just pull the chapter and start over again, except that I really needed the information that was in it.

To top it off Im not even sure what I did wrong in the chapter.

Anyway thats me bellyaching and I really hope that when I eventually get some sleep I feel better about writing. Its the first really bad chapter I have had and combined with some other comments over time about my writing it's a bit heartbreaking. Kinda wonder how one gets past that.

Sundays are dead slow. Absolutely dead, at least IMO. People are to busy relaxing and getting back from their extracurricular stuff to care about reading. I wager most do it while at work during the week, or as a nice bit of recreation after work. That, and students are just dipping into school, enjoying their last free weekends before the crunch, spending time reading books for school...there's usually a bit of a slowdown when summer winds down...So don't worry about your lack of views, reviews, etc. I posted a chapter earlier today and my visitor count has barely increased in the 4 hours it's been on the front page (sitting fourth or fiffth, last I checked). Again, it's a Sunday.

3 hours of sleep in 72 hours...those stretches are the worst :( Honestly, unless I'm on a concert binge, or I'm at home in my PJs watching whole season marathons of Doctor Who or Game of Thrones or Six Feet Under or whatever, those stretches are loathsome... :( I hope you gets some wonderful, relaxing, well-earned sleep. Seriously, you deserve it!

As for the quality of your story, everyone writes differently. I've seen some eloquently written stuff on FFnet that's been severely outclassed by simpler writing because of better character development, or having a better handle on emotional development and progression, having a better handle on characyers, or having a better sense of humour, or having a better plot, or a more interesting plot...the list goes on.
I mean, yeah, you occasionally misspell a word or two, but otherwise, you're solid on that point. Yeah, you're not a huge detail oriented writer like PMC or Drussius or Lilitheris or whatever, but you're efficient with what details you bring to the table and you tend to have quite good pacing.
The important thing is that you're enjoying the writing process, or that you're enjoying the story you're weaving. If you want to improve your writing, and have the time to sink into it, spend a day or two reading novels and try to dissect a single chapter. I like reading intro chapters, personally, because they're what keeps people reading, and it's fun to find out how authors pull people's attention in. Outside of that, just focus on what you want to convey to the reader, and what options you have in the matter. Not everyone has spare time to read ad learn to adapt elements of other writing styles to your own.

I can't tell you NOT to be self conscious about your writing, but I merely ask that you be less self-critical. Know your strengths, know your weaknesses, and if you have time, work on those weaknesses. Rome wasn't built in a day, and you're not even aspiring to build Rome, anyway.

Anywho, I hope you get some rest -_- You've earned it!

#4623
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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

 So, did anyone take a look at those two chapters yet? Am I writing Caleb better than before, or does he still need some work?

I'm swamped with last minute weekend readings and classes from 8:30AM to 9PM tomorrow, but I'll try to make some time in the middle of the week. Perhaps even tomorrow night if I'm not a zombie when I get home near 10:30 or so, but that's highly unlikely. :P

Still, I'll give it a looksee...eventually. :)

#4624
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fluffywalrus wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

 So, did anyone take a look at those two chapters yet? Am I writing Caleb better than before, or does he still need some work?

I'm swamped with last minute weekend readings and classes from 8:30AM to 9PM tomorrow, but I'll try to make some time in the middle of the week. Perhaps even tomorrow night if I'm not a zombie when I get home near 10:30 or so, but that's highly unlikely. :P

Still, I'll give it a looksee...eventually. :)


Awesome awesome! I do remember you telling me that I shouldn't make Caleb mister amazing invincible man, so I did turn down his super powers a knotch.

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Though I do recommend to read part 1, or even some of the chapters before that to sort of understand what's going on.