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[fluffywalrus]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Though I do recommend to read part 1, or even some of the chapters before that to sort of understand what's going on.

I think, not counting the two chapters you posted, I'm only one other chapter from being caught up, but like I usually do when I haven't read a story in a while I'll go through some of the last few chapters I read to get my memory working, and then continue through to the most recent.

I'll make my notes in the reviews on ffnet

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

fluffywalrus wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Though I do recommend to read part 1, or even some of the chapters before that to sort of understand what's going on.

I think, not counting the two chapters you posted, I'm only one other chapter from being caught up, but like I usually do when I haven't read a story in a while I'll go through some of the last few chapters I read to get my memory working, and then continue through to the most recent.

I'll make my notes in the reviews on ffnet

Again, thank you! Really appreciate it. :happy:

[Spiritwolf1]

Thanks all and I know it was a bit whiney but I think what thre wme off the most was the hockey game beleive it or not(Im the goalie). I'm highly critical of myself all the time, especially with hockey because it was pretty much the only natural thing I have ever been good at.

As for the chapter, I still think I did something horribly wrong. I got the same amount of hits I always get but yeah one review and this is after 2 chapters of amazing reviews. I don't know I wish if people didn't like it they would at least tell me why so I could look into fixing it. *shrugs*. Ill finally be able to get more sleep tonight and then Ill see what I can do.

[Spiritwolf1]

Oh and as for spelling mistakes, I found this amazing:

I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid. Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas toghuht slpeling was ipmorantt! Tahts so cool!

[lillitheris]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

I just had three hours sleep in more then 72 hours, am working elongated shifts at work, had the most pathetic hockey game I have played in a very long long time and to top it off my last chapter was a complete bust, except for Fluffy, always supporting me, I got no reviews.

Lack of sleep => autosad. To add to what fluffy already said, reviews have been kinda scarce in the last couple weeks all around, it seems.

Anyway thats me bellyaching and I really hope that when I eventually get some sleep I feel better about writing. Its the first really bad chapter I have had and combined with some other comments over time about my writing it's a bit heartbreaking. Kinda wonder how one gets past that.

You’ll probably be able to assess whether it’s actually bad in the morning. Lack of reviews doesn’t really mean anything in itself…I’ve numerous chapters without a single one early on. Or, well, at least I’d like to think they’re good regardless

[Obsidian Gryphon]

When I started my fanfic, I did it for fun and partly because I just wanted to have a little say on what happened to Shep & Liara after the fiasco of an ending for ME3. Then ideas began to hit and I went on. My expectation was : ppl would swim by, read and swim off. I wasn't expecting gd reviews or a constant flow of them for each chapter so it was a pleasant surprise to get a few. Eventually, the pattern settled and I ended up having two very nice people constantly reviewing each chapter; Fluffy and Theodur. Hat off to them.  /salute

Even if there's silent reception, I'd not get upset though. I'd still throw out the chapters till the story is done. Because I want to and thanks to the two, I know at least I'm not that terrible a writer. When I put up the closing chapter, I know I'll be happy because I finally have said what I wanted.   Review or no reviews.  

That's exactly the same mindset I had for the first fanfic (Korean) I did. People left no reviews but a few would say something in the forum. I just went on and finally ended at close to a 100 chapters. At the end of it, I dusted my hands, satisfied, and walked away.

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 10 septembre 2012 - 10:28 .

[Tairis Deamhan]

lillitheris wrote...

Lack of sleep => autosad. To add to what fluffy already said, reviews have been kinda scarce in the last couple weeks all around, it seems.

I think it's definitely the time of year. I know I personally was out of the office for awhile on vacation. School is starting back up so people are getting busy again... just the changing of the seasons.

You’ll probably be able to assess whether it’s actually bad in the morning. Lack of reviews doesn’t really mean anything in itself…I’ve numerous chapters without a single one early on. Or, well, at least I’d like to think they’re good regardless

Indeed, the first.. hm dozen chapters I posted way back would fluctuate wildly on the amount of reviews they recieved.

I think this goes back to a discussion earlier in this thread tho. Are you writing because you want to tell a story or just for reviews? If it's the former then just keep telling your story and things will come. Now if its a specific fandom (IE Tali/Shep or Liara/Shep for example) you might want to advertise in the appropriate thread so people will know its there. That can help alot to get readers engaged.

[hot_heart]

Yeah, I don't think lack of reviews is necessarily a bad thing. I figure a lot of people are reserving judgement until a particular bit of the story pans out. Plus, there are certain things to which people respond the most. The character interaction is usually the strongest as well as the big 'moments' that occur along the way.

I can't speak for everyone due to such wonderful variety from all but, in mine, the scenes with Shepard tend to garner the most attention (since they're also in-game ones too, I guess) and stuff that is very plot-focused either have yet to pan out, or just feel a bit dry, so might not receive much more than a "Good story/liked this, keep it up". Which is still very nice all the same, obviously.

I know with one chapter I was particularly pleased with at least the first bit, but it was mainly plot setup and so hasn't received one single review.

Anyway, chin up, Spiritwolf, I'm sure you're doing fine. You seem to have a very positive following, and I'm sure someone would say if they felt something was amiss.

[Spiritwolf1]

Yeah thanks guys, like I said I was at a low last night. I am writing for myself but I don't think anyone here can say they could care less if they did not get reviews. It's nice to know people are enjoying what you are doing, it is also pretty inspiring as well. I'm still in the sever lack of sleep mode and hopefully I can get to bed early tonight and then be fresh for tomorrow.

I have no one at home that would understand what I was thinking so I needed somewhere to vent and I was just hoping you guys didn't mind. Ill try not to belly ache anymore

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

Yeah thanks guys, like I said I was at a low last night. I am writing for myself but I don't think anyone here can say they could care less if they did not get reviews. It's nice to know people are enjoying what you are doing, it is also pretty inspiring as well. I'm still in the sever lack of sleep mode and hopefully I can get to bed early tonight and then be fresh for tomorrow.

I have no one at home that would understand what I was thinking so I needed somewhere to vent and I was just hoping you guys didn't mind. Ill try not to belly ache anymore

I understand the sentiment. I do write for myself, but I'm also writing in an attempt to entertain people who may be reading it. Whenever I post a chapter and get absolutely nothing I get worried that my story is starting to suck. 

[lillitheris]

Allow me to quote the OP:

lillitheris wrote...

I’m not quite sure what this thread could be used for, if anything, but let’s have one anyway.

So, post questions about style, vocab, setting, lore, the corner you painted yourself into, whatever!

Request beta reading/sanity checks/reviews — preferrably of excerpts rather than entire chapters but if you’re not spamming the thread, it’s not really a big deal.

Complain loudly about lack/deluge of reviews or other interaction and/or their quality, bemoan writer’s block, lack of time etc.

A little whine is just fine, that’s what the thread is for <3

[Tairis Deamhan]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

I have no one at home that would understand what I was thinking so I needed somewhere to vent and I was just hoping you guys didn't mind. Ill try not to belly ache anymore

A little complaining is good for the soul. The point is more to not focus on a single instance, but rather take it as part of the whole.

[enayasoul]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

Yeah thanks guys, like I said I was at a low last night. I am writing for myself but I don't think anyone here can say they could care less if they did not get reviews. It's nice to know people are enjoying what you are doing, it is also pretty inspiring as well. I'm still in the sever lack of sleep mode and hopefully I can get to bed early tonight and then be fresh for tomorrow.

I have no one at home that would understand what I was thinking so I needed somewhere to vent and I was just hoping you guys didn't mind. Ill try not to belly ache anymore

I understand the sentiment. I do write for myself, but I'm also writing in an attempt to entertain people who may be reading it. Whenever I post a chapter and get absolutely nothing I get worried that my story is starting to suck. 

Same here.  I was writing for myself entirely.  Then I started talking my fic over with a few random people and one person in particular thought it was good.  We both liked ME... He was romancing Tali and I was romancing Miranda. I haven't shown it to anyone in my family though, I'd talk about certain points as a way of getting feedback but they could care less.  It was a bit scary at first, posting it on ff but it seems people like it.  The number of favorites and followers has gone up some...  I know it could always be better and I've had to edit and change quite a few scenes but I think those changes were necessary. 

My latest chapter has had zero reviews. (good or bad... not certain  but I know one reader is totally hooked and make their day when I do post a new chapter.   That review has helped me considerably!)  I totally reworked many of the scenes and introduction from what I had originally.  I think it's better than before.  I added some new stuff and characters. I think that might be the reason... waiting to see how it turns out in the next chapter?

There is one situation in particular, I had to think a lot about and wasn't sure if it would be entirely in character for Miranda... and if she earned that emotional part...  She's dealing with a lot of internal stuff...  So that had me concerned.  (Mind you this was written before ME3 ever came out...)

Now, working on the next chapter having to deal with what I had set up previously.  I'm not too happy about what I had written those months ago... may end up deleting those parts I dislike entirely and creating new ones and keeping those few scenes I do like.   

I think what I am really struggling with right now is how to introduce the beginning part of the chapter.   I thought about what I wrote at the end of the chapter... and bringing that to the front... to have the reader hooked that way to find out what happens. My mind is still analysing it.   I have three other chapters after that I'd love to get to because they are good. :happy:

anyways, enough of my ramblings.

Modifié par enayasoul, 10 septembre 2012 - 06:22 .

[hot_heart]

Sorry. I really need to get round to reading your fic, enaya. I seem to recall seeing a lot of chapters and being concerned that I would always be behind. You should put a link in your sig though!

As well as work and chores and trying to sort out my own writing, I have gotten a bit busy with helping out some guys with their Miranda comic and I get some people asking for help from time to time. Though, I gave some guy feedback and then haven't heard from him since... Shame, because the stuff I read was pretty good.

[enayasoul]

hot_heart wrote...

Sorry. I really need to get round to reading your fic, enaya. I seem to recall seeing a lot of chapters and being concerned that I would always be behind. You should put a link in your sig though!

As well as work and chores and trying to sort out my own writing, I have gotten a bit busy with helping out some guys with their Miranda comic and I get some people asking for help from time to time. Though, I gave some guy feedback and then haven't heard from him since... Shame, because the stuff I read was pretty good.

It's quite huge.  I tend to think of it in an episodic kind of way... at least that's what I was going for.  I understand it will take a while to read it entirely.  A lot of stuff happening... I'll try to add the link but this forum setup is very buggy for me.  I can't even accept everyone on my friend requests.  It has to be a software, programming issue on bioware's end because it happens on different computers and different browsers I used. 

I do enjoy your writing.  Short and too the point.  A lot of combat, running etc.  Miranda get's her workout.   *teasing*  She does do a lot of flirting with this John character.  I do have to remember he's not John *Shepard*

[hot_heart]

Hey, she's got a troubled time. Got to do a lot of running and shooting. Plus, the idea was to gradually have her worn down by everything going on. ARTISTIC INTEGRITY.

enayasoul wrote...
I do have to remember he's not John *Shepard*

Nor is he John Casey.

[enayasoul]

hot_heart wrote...

Hey, she's got a troubled time. Got to do a lot of running and shooting. Plus, the idea was to gradually have her worn down by everything going on. ARTISTIC INTEGRITY.

enayasoul wrote...
I do have to remember he's not John *Shepard*

Nor is he John Casey.

No doubt!  Love the "Chuck" references.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

Yeah thanks guys, like I said I was at a low last night. I am writing for myself but I don't think anyone here can say they could care less if they did not get reviews. It's nice to know people are enjoying what you are doing, it is also pretty inspiring as well. I'm still in the sever lack of sleep mode and hopefully I can get to bed early tonight and then be fresh for tomorrow.

I have no one at home that would understand what I was thinking so I needed somewhere to vent and I was just hoping you guys didn't mind. Ill try not to belly ache anymore

Yep, that's true. It's always positive when there is response; feel good / happy. I'm already used to a stone wall (fed with one),  I finally figure out positives / morale boosts come when they come, it also comes from within. But I'm being honest when I said I myself expected no reviews. I started out with just one large objective; f**** you BW, this is how I want the story to end.   And I'm going to put it in black and white.

  Lillitheirs started a great supportive thread. Kudos to her. I don't think anyone here mind your venting.  

  

[enayasoul]

For those writing Ashley fics... do you ever add snippets from the poem she quotes in your fan fiction. I looked up Tennyson poems and found an interesting passage I might want to include. Just wondered your take on adding such to your fan stories.

[lillitheris]

enayasoul wrote...

For those writing Ashley fics... do you ever add snippets from the poem she quotes in your fan fiction. I looked up Tennyson poems and found an interesting passage I might want to include. Just wondered your take on adding such to your fan stories.

I think that sounds fine. This actually came up N pages back, I seem to recall… If you find fitting ones from the ones that we know she enjoys from the games—Tennyson, certainly—by all means use them. If you’re not comfortable with specifics, like I wouldn’t be, you can always fudge it by simply stating that she recites something.

The other consideration was how to use them. Whether Ash would actually cite poetry, or simply read for relaxation, whether she’d write herself and so on.

[Spiritwolf1]

Remembering back she quoted a couple in the first Mass Effect but none in the third, not that Ash was my favorite, but I always figured we would hear more quoting in the third.

[hot_heart]

Yeah, I recall she breaks into a long passage (or full poem) in ME1 and Shepard has the option to be a dick about it.

If characters like Ash and Thane had their original writers for ME3, you probably would have seen more of their trademark 'quirks'. Fans of Ash would probably appreciate seeing that sort of stuff make a return.

[fainmaca]

I think she even has a passage in ME2. If you were in a romance with her, I believe her apology e-mail has a quote. Bear in mind I have never done a Shep who romances her, so I may be wrong. (I always save Kaidan because I decided that my Shep would save his old(est?) friend rather than having the 'save the girl' mentality)

Leads to a question, though. How much do we rely on pre-established 'quirks' to keep the characters authentic to your readers? Is it a big part of making them believeably IC, or do you try to avoid using them much?

[hot_heart]

Well, obviously you don't want to overdo it. And they're more than the sum of their...quirks. It's just one way of keeping them consistent, really.

[lillitheris]

Quirks never define a character. As with many things, it’s probably better the subtler you can make it.

Like, say, in the case of poetry, you maybe wouldn’t want to make a big speech out of it, more something like Shepard accidentally hearing when Ash mutters a phrase to herself as they both hunker behind some kind of cover—and never really address it beyond that in the scene. Later, on the ship, you could touch upon it again. Or something.