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[MrStoob]

Bring Down the Sky DLC. It introduced the batarian race I believe. Maybe cross-over was the wrong term.

[fainmaca]

Icyflare wrote...
Meh, I don't know about other people, but I definitely feel an waning interest in Mass Effect after all this time. Even playing the games again doesn't revitalize me. Makes it a bit hard to updating. Well, that and all the life stuff. Anyone else experiencing this?

I feel that every time I see an update from BW. With this latest DLC, they seem only interested in further diminishing the achievements of the past games to prop up the third. First the Reapers are maginalised by the main plot, then the Protheans get abused by From Ashes, then indoctrination takes a hit with Leviathan, now the Collector defeat wasn't really a victory like ME2 made out it was. Turns out we got one crew and missed out on THE ENTIRE REST OF THE RACE.

Really, at this point, has Shepard been allowed to achieve anything? He stopped the Reaper return in ME1 only to reveal they were a scant three year hike away anyway, then he stopped a single station's worth of bad guy slaves as opposed to their entire species, possibly losing some of the Galaxy's most skilled operatives in the process. Then ME3 ends with him being given the ending by the creator of the bad guys. Dammit Bioware, give our hero back his heroism!

Anyway, I feel every update sapping my enthusiasm for the franchise, so I try to not look at them. I've turned away from the Story and General boards, doing my best to avoid becoming embroiled in that again, and I try to just stay on the Fan Creations boards. Says a lot of BW's doing that the only part of their franchise that has appeal now is the parts not made by them. Learn from this, fellow writers. Ignoring your readers will net you nothing but an empty forum.

[Dark Satris]

fainmaca wrote...

Icyflare wrote...
Meh, I don't know about other people, but I definitely feel an waning interest in Mass Effect after all this time. Even playing the games again doesn't revitalize me. Makes it a bit hard to updating. Well, that and all the life stuff. Anyone else experiencing this?

I feel that every time I see an update from BW. With this latest DLC, they seem only interested in further diminishing the achievements of the past games to prop up the third. First the Reapers are maginalised by the main plot, then the Protheans get abused by From Ashes, then indoctrination takes a hit with Leviathan, now the Collector defeat wasn't really a victory like ME2 made out it was. Turns out we got one crew and missed out on THE ENTIRE REST OF THE RACE.

Really, at this point, has Shepard been allowed to achieve anything? He stopped the Reaper return in ME1 only to reveal they were a scant three year hike away anyway, then he stopped a single station's worth of bad guy slaves as opposed to their entire species, possibly losing some of the Galaxy's most skilled operatives in the process. Then ME3 ends with him being given the ending by the creator of the bad guys. Dammit Bioware, give our hero back his heroism!

Anyway, I feel every update sapping my enthusiasm for the franchise, so I try to not look at them. I've turned away from the Story and General boards, doing my best to avoid becoming embroiled in that again, and I try to just stay on the Fan Creations boards. Says a lot of BW's doing that the only part of their franchise that has appeal now is the parts not made by them. Learn from this, fellow writers. Ignoring your readers will net you nothing but an empty forum.

i believe this was taken up in the actual retaliation thread, but what is the possibility that shepard took out ALL of the collectors? there must have been more out kidnapping humans at the time.

[fluffywalrus]

Eh, in my eyes, multiplayer mass effect occurs in an entirely different universe than the single player mass effect. Only way it`s ever made any sense, to me. I`m not bothered by the additions, I wouldn`t care if they added a volus adept or an elcor vanguard, it`s all about as far removed from the single player experience as possible in my eyes.

Though I actually liked From Ashes, and learning more about the protheans (in a way).

Modifié par fluffywalrus, 08 octobre 2012 - 12:38 .

[Icyflare]

hot_heart wrote...

Also, I don't think it was just the Miranda thread; which is sorting out its issues, thankfully. Community changes were afoot (as signalled by the survey as well as a talk at Gamescom).

What is this survey and the talk at Gamescom I keep hearing about? I tried looking it up, but all I find is a survey from when the extended cut was released, which indicated a visible split between ME fans. Unless that IS the survey, in which case, I'm not all that surprised.

Modifié par Icyflare, 08 octobre 2012 - 01:29 .

[MrStoob]

It's okay DS, now that the Leviathan are back and the Reapers are gone, they can continue to subjugate the rest of the galaxy as slaves, demanding tribute. ^^

From Ashes was a bit disappointing. Javik just insulting everyone got old fast. The best bit of dialogue with him (her... happy?) was with Liara when he first comes on board, mainly for her realization that they aren't the benevolent wise race she thought. Other than that? Meh. Another potential wasted from BW IMHO.

[fainmaca]

Dark Satris wrote...
i believe this was taken up in the actual retaliation thread, but what is the possibility that shepard took out ALL of the collectors? there must have been more out kidnapping humans at the time.

I thought that was the whole point of the mission beyond Omega Four: Eliminate the threat against Humanity and stop the kidnappings permanently. I was of the belief that there was only that station's worth of Collectors because that's all that the Reapers needed of the Prothean race for their purposes, and therefore the Suicide Mission actually accomplished something. I could accept that there was a single ship left that was out marauding or that there were a few small teams negotiating for those individuals with eight toes and webbed eyes and all that, but an entire army? Just makes ME2 feel inconsequential.

I realise that MP can be separated from SP, but I feel its still part of the lore, and seeing Bioware's continued descent into MP obsession is kind of disheartening. Wish they'd return to their roots and go back to what put them in the lofty place gamers elevated them to.

[MrStoob]

I like 'Bookends of Destruction' whenever ME2 comes up. "WHAT WAS THE POINT OF MASS EFFECT 2?"

Cains or Fleets, Cains or Fleets... lol.

[hot_heart]

Icyflare wrote...
What is this survey and the talk at Gamescom I keep hearing about? I tried looking it up, but all I find is a survey from when the extended cut was released, which indicated a visible split between ME fans. Unless that IS the survey, in which case, I'm not all that surprised.

There was a community survey last month. The thread was here. The Gamescom thing I heard through someone else who was actually there.

Also, has anyone noticed some patches of severe slowdown on the forum in the last couple of days? I don't mean activity-wise, but with pages taking a while to load. Seems OK today but it was pretty bad the last couple of evenings for long stretches of time.


As for the Retaliation DLC, I'd like to consider the MP stuff non-canon (despite how BioWare likes to present it) because of things like geth/Cerberus on Earth or Thessia and things like that, but I get the feeling the Collectors will be showing up at some point during singleplayer DLC (if not Omega).

And, fainmaca, I actually think a fair few of the story's problems come from trying to please fans. Sometimes it's minor stuff but, in this case, the community has been asking for the Collectors as a multiplayer faction for months.

[fainmaca]

MrStoob wrote...

I like 'Bookends of Destruction' whenever ME2 comes up. "WHAT WAS THE POINT OF MASS EFFECT 2?"

Cains or Fleets, Cains or Fleets... lol.

Still peeved at not being able to shove a Cain up Harbinger's Bwaaaam-hole. Can a Reaper go cross-eyed? I'm damn well determined to try.

hot_heart wrote...
Also, has anyone noticed some patches of severe slowdown on the forum in the last couple of days? I don't mean activity-wise, but with pages taking a while to load. Seems OK today but it was pretty bad the last couple of evenings for long stretches of time.

Isn't that because they're rebuilding behind the scenes? I thought they were getting ready to roll out a new forum format.

And, fainmaca, I actually think a fair few of the story's problems come from trying to please fans. Sometimes it's minor stuff but, in this case, the community has been asking for the Collectors as a multiplayer faction for months.

That's as may be, but I believe that that is because Bioware's design choices have driven off those who'd ask for something different and dragged in a new breed of fans. How many of us expressed doubt or even annoyance at the inclusion of MP in our game? Bioware went on anyway, and now they have created a new demographic to appeal to, who call for things that don't make sense with the lore, like the Collectors appearing in MP.

I put it out there that the community is completely different to what it used to be. So many of those I refer to as the 'Old Guard' are gone now, with new, pro-ME3 figures rising to take their place. Hell, the only person who I am familiar with from those who I consider to belong to said 'Old Guard' that still appears on here is Lill, and now she's on some kind of ban, too? JoeLaTurkey, AshiraShepard, Slurms, a whole bunch of good guys (and gals) who've just up and left after the fall of the franchise.

[hot_heart]

fainmaca wrote...
Isn't that because they're rebuilding behind the scenes? I thought they were getting ready to roll out a new forum format.

That's what I figured. Which would leave me to believe shutting down the character forum was a way to 'lighten the load' as well as let some tensions simmer down.

fainmaca wrote...
That's as may be, but I believe that that is because Bioware's design choices have driven off those who'd ask for something different and dragged in a new breed of fans. How many of us expressed doubt or even annoyance at the inclusion of MP in our game? Bioware went on anyway, and now they have created a new demographic to appeal to, who call for things that don't make sense with the lore, like the Collectors appearing in MP.

I think that's a huge discussion that I'd rather not get into here. Not saying I disagree with you, but I personally believe a big part of ME3's failing was trying to recapture some elements of ME1 (poorly), which seems to have been fuelled by community feedback.

Anyway, I don't want to place blame with the community, as it is still BioWare steering the ship. I guess the best thing you can do is think of your own playthrough as your story. So, things like DLC can be more easily ignored if you so wish.

With the Collectors, I know the swarms are mentioned in ME3 codex, though I'm not too fussed at there being actual Collectors. The ME2 squad still put an end to the harvesting and the human Reaper as well as laid groundwork for resolving the greater conflict. Just trying to stay positive.

Modifié par hot_heart, 08 octobre 2012 - 12:34 .

[Dark Satris]

fainmaca wrote...

I thought that was the whole point of the mission beyond Omega Four: Eliminate the threat against Humanity and stop the kidnappings permanently. I was of the belief that there was only that station's worth of Collectors because that's all that the Reapers needed of the Prothean race for their purposes, and therefore the Suicide Mission actually accomplished something. I could accept that there was a single ship left that was out marauding or that there were a few small teams negotiating for those individuals with eight toes and webbed eyes and all that, but an entire army? Just makes ME2 feel inconsequential.

I realise that MP can be separated from SP, but I feel its still part of the lore, and seeing Bioware's continued descent into MP obsession is kind of disheartening. Wish they'd return to their roots and go back to what put them in the lofty place gamers elevated them to.

yes, but then again, in the trailer we just see one ship, which you have to remember is HUGE, and with the reaper's tech, i wouldn't be at all surprised if they clone 'em. btu still, as i am one who plays mainly MP (as i got bored of SP), i am happy to see a new enemy to beet to a pulp .

fainmaca wrote...

Still peeved at not being able to shove a Cain up Harbinger's Bwaaaam-hole. Can a Reaper go cross-eyed? I'm damn well determined to try.

as for this, i may have something up my sleeve.

Modifié par Dark Satris, 08 octobre 2012 - 01:17 .

[fainmaca]

hot_heart wrote...
I think that's a huge discussion that I'd rather not get into here. Not saying I disagree with you, but I personally believe a big part of ME3's failing was trying to recapture some elements of ME1 (poorly), which seems to have been fuelled by community feedback.

Anyway, I don't want to place blame with the community, as it is still BioWare steering the ship. I guess the best thing you can do is think of your own playthrough as your story. So, things like DLC can be more easily ignored if you so wish.

With the Collectors, I know the swarms are mentioned in ME3 codex, though I'm not too fussed at there being actual Collectors. The ME2 squad still put an end to the harvesting and the human Reaper as well as laid groundwork for resolving the greater conflict. Just trying to stay positive.

A valid stance. I'd agree that there was a certain amount of acquiescing to fan requests, but that many of those times they were either done poorly or they were the wrong requests/expectations to respond to (does anybody else cringe at Prothy the Prothean?).

I'm past accepting Bioware's version as my canon. ITU has given me the story I needed, and will continue to do so.

Anyway, back to all things Fanfic!

I'm still looking for writers to help me with the collaboration I mentioned a couple of months back. Had a couple of people express interest, but nothing much came of it. Anybody interested in writing something to run alongside ITU?

[MrStoob]

What's the gist of your intended collab fainmaca? Your FF is a bit long to just jump in, 879k words?! ^^

[fainmaca]

MrStoob wrote...

What's the gist of your intended collab fainmaca? Your FF is a bit long to just jump in, 879k words?! ^^

Yeah, its become a little bulky.

The general idea of the collab was eventually to encourage a variety of writers to create some side stories set in the ITU-niverse, telling a bunch of different stories featuring what happens 'off-camera', so to speak (i.e. my main fic tells the story of what Shepard's up to, but these other stories are what happens where Shepard isn't).

I'd hoped to start by allowing people to test the waters in the events surrounding the final battle for Tuchanka, quite a big event in the storyline (Krogan battlemech army versus indoctrinated Yahg, for any of those curious. Oh, and the All-Thresher, which came before Kalros ever appeared in trailers).

My basic idea for this initial test was to ask writers if they could write a little something about one of the countless battles Shepard wasn't a part of during that mission, i.e. they could write about members of the crew not on Shepard's squad at the time ( so anybody except Grunt, Wrex, Mordin, Thane, Delexia and Jorall. Oh, and Tali, Liara and Falere, who haven't been recruited at this point. ). They could write about prominent Krogan they know of from the lore like Charr, the Urdnot Shaman (who is shown to be dead by the next chapter, but his end was something I never chronicled), the mechanic, hell, even Presidium Fish Krogan, if you so wish. They could even create a squad of OC Krogan Warriors, down on the front lines and in the thick of things. As long as its set against the backdrop of the main story and doesn't change anything from the canon of the ITU-niverse, its good.

[MrStoob]

fainmaca wrote...

MrStoob wrote...

What's the gist of your intended collab fainmaca? Your FF is a bit long to just jump in, 879k words?! ^^

Yeah, its become a little bulky.

The general idea of the collab was eventually to encourage a variety of writers to create some side stories set in the ITU-niverse, telling a bunch of different stories featuring what happens 'off-camera', so to speak (i.e. my main fic tells the story of what Shepard's up to, but these other stories are what happens where Shepard isn't).

I'd hoped to start by allowing people to test the waters in the events surrounding the final battle for Tuchanka, quite a big event in the storyline (Krogan battlemech army versus indoctrinated Yahg, for any of those curious. Oh, and the All-Thresher, which came before Kalros ever appeared in trailers).

My basic idea for this initial test was to ask writers if they could write a little something about one of the countless battles Shepard wasn't a part of during that mission, i.e. they could write about members of the crew not on Shepard's squad at the time ( so anybody except Grunt, Wrex, Mordin, Thane, Delexia and Jorall. Oh, and Tali, Liara and Falere, who haven't been recruited at this point. ). They could write about prominent Krogan they know of from the lore like Charr, the Urdnot Shaman (who is shown to be dead by the next chapter, but his end was something I never chronicled), the mechanic, hell, even Presidium Fish Krogan, if you so wish. They could even create a squad of OC Krogan Warriors, down on the front lines and in the thick of things. As long as its set against the backdrop of the main story and doesn't change anything from the canon of the ITU-niverse, its good.

Action scenes are not my forte I do have to say, I get in and out of those asap in my FF.  And I'd probably have great difficulty if all the main players are off the cards.  So GL but that's not for me 

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Obligatory bump.  

I suppose my story is going to hit 40 chapters. *sigh*  Trying to bring it to a close is like trying to go after gophers in a field full of their burrows.

[MrStoob]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Obligatory bump.  

I suppose my story is going to hit 40 chapters. *sigh*  Trying to bring it to a close is like trying to go after gophers in a field full of their burrows.

And they all lived happily ever after.  The End.

You can have that one.  No, no.  I insist.  ^^

[Drussius]

Wierd. Yesterday, every time I tried to come onto Bioware's site, my antivirus software stopped me and said there was unsafe code or malware detected. This morning I try and I get right in...

[hot_heart]

Only just realised that Spiritwolf has called their latest fanfic 'Into The Unknown'.

Somebody alert fainmaca!

[IliyaMoroumetz]

Woo! Big Bang story submitted. And soon will be posted. Finally, after three months of writing and waiting, I finally am going to be posting a story I've been wanting to share for a while.

[Spiritwolf1]

Ahhh, Weird I though I had favorited most stories here including fainmaca, I would have know if I had, sorry. Not that it matters mines the weird one that almost no one is reading

Modifié par Spiritwolf1, 09 octobre 2012 - 05:34 .

[Drussius]

Even though I can't play it, I downloaded and checked out the new MP DLC. And I have to say, I'm glad Bioware broke their arbitrary rules and gave me what I've been asking for since their first MP DLC... An Asari Infiltrator with Tactical Cloak and biotic powers...

A while back, I mentioned it on the MP forums, and people attacked me and said "No, Infiltrators have tech and combat powers. They can't be biotics." To which my response was "Why? An asari couldn't buy a tactical cloak and go out to cause havoc with her biotics while hiding with the technology?" The only reason people were arguing about it was because of Bioware's arbitrary rules regarding the types of powers characterized by each class.

I just wanted to say here, since I didn't want to start some sort of argument over there, that I'm glad Bioware finally included the class that the asari military was said to characterize since day one: a biotic who specializes in Infiltration. It's just too bad I can't play so I can unlock one...


Edit: And on a more on-topic question, has anyone ever had a reviewer tell them they should do a spin-off based on characters in their story? I was sort of tickled by that one.

Modifié par Drussius, 09 octobre 2012 - 05:54 .

[Spiritwolf1]

Dru you could do a spin off on any one of your wonderful characters,

[Drussius]

LOL. Well, thank you for the compliment, but someone suggested I do a Romance spinoff for Neela and Selura. Romance isn't exactly my forte. But I appreciated the interest regardless.