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Drussius wrote...

This will be the last time I bring multiplayer into the thread, I promise, since this isn't the point of the thread. But I want to point out that the Shield Boost ability makes the Volus Engineer basically unkillable (on Bronze) if you play carefully and don't let yourself get cornered. You just have to avoid using any other ability when there are enemies near so that your shield boost is never on cooldown when you need it. The second your shields drop, boost and get them back. By the time the enemies can knock them down again, the ability is off cooldown, so you can bring them right back up. When things get tight, drop a recon mine, cloak and run for the far end of the map to do it all again. I've only failed to solo extract 1 out of 10 times with the Volus, and my one fail was because I foolishly ran into a turret's line of fire right after using the boost against Cerberus.

This is for bronze, of course. On higher difficulties, it seems that the Volus gets progressively harder to do well with. Tried him on gold, and got gunned down so fast it wasn't even funny. But then, that was just an experiment that I knew I'd fail... I'm not one of those guys that's good enough to solo gold... especially with a squishy character.


Engineers can cloak? I only saw recon mine, proximity mine and shield boost. No cloak. That said, I think the best thing a Volus can do is to stay at a distance, snipe and mine. I'm always playing silver with the occasional gold so definitely, I've to be careful with this char.

All the other classes are fun to play though the Cerberus Adept makes me laugh. Because I really like using the lash. I got it down pat that I can pull those goons right out of the map, I don't pull straight unless I'm a hurry. Pulling straight doesn't gaurantee a kill so the goon would just pick himself up and shoot your ass just when you think he's dead. I always like to see the other players' reaction when they realised the goon is arching high up in the air, going out of the perimeter. :lol: The only turkeys I can't dump outside are dragoons, phantoms (full shields) and pyros <--- they're still annoying far reaching with their flamethrowers.

On the subject of rezzing. I usually abandon all attempts once two players go down in the same spot. If it's only a turret, I'll get it first. If it's a boss, those 2 usually timed out by the time I take it down. If the 2 are at different spots, it largely depends on their positions.

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Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Drussius wrote...

This will be the last time I bring multiplayer into the thread, I promise, since this isn't the point of the thread. But I want to point out that the Shield Boost ability makes the Volus Engineer basically unkillable (on Bronze) if you play carefully and don't let yourself get cornered. You just have to avoid using any other ability when there are enemies near so that your shield boost is never on cooldown when you need it. The second your shields drop, boost and get them back. By the time the enemies can knock them down again, the ability is off cooldown, so you can bring them right back up. When things get tight, drop a recon mine, cloak and run for the far end of the map to do it all again. I've only failed to solo extract 1 out of 10 times with the Volus, and my one fail was because I foolishly ran into a turret's line of fire right after using the boost against Cerberus.

This is for bronze, of course. On higher difficulties, it seems that the Volus gets progressively harder to do well with. Tried him on gold, and got gunned down so fast it wasn't even funny. But then, that was just an experiment that I knew I'd fail... I'm not one of those guys that's good enough to solo gold... especially with a squishy character.


Engineers can cloak? I only saw recon mine, proximity mine and shield boost. No cloak. That said, I think the best thing a Volus can do is to stay at a distance, snipe and mine. I'm always playing silver with the occasional gold so definitely, I've to be careful with this char.

*snip*


Only the volus ones (and the Volus Adept too). Press light melee (not heavy) and they cloak for about 3 seconds. Useful for running away.

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Drussius wrote...

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I got the two Volus and tried the engineer. Dang, he's very squishy. I also found that he cannot duck behind covers, so his head is there for the taking if he's standing behind a low ledge. :pinched:  Also very disconcerting because of the low viewpoint.


This will be the last time I bring multiplayer into the thread, I promise, since this isn't the point of the thread. But I want to point out that the Shield Boost ability makes the Volus Engineer basically unkillable (on Bronze) if you play carefully and don't let yourself get cornered. You just have to avoid using any other ability when there are enemies near so that your shield boost is never on cooldown when you need it. The second your shields drop, boost and get them back. By the time the enemies can knock them down again, the ability is off cooldown, so you can bring them right back up. When things get tight, drop a recon mine, cloak and run for the far end of the map to do it all again. I've only failed to solo extract 1 out of 10 times with the Volus, and my one fail was because I foolishly ran into a turret's line of fire right after using the boost against Cerberus.

This is for bronze, of course. On higher difficulties, it seems that the Volus gets progressively harder to do well with. Tried him on gold, and got gunned down so fast it wasn't even funny. But then, that was just an experiment that I knew I'd fail... I'm not one of those guys that's good enough to solo gold... especially with a squishy character.


I always thought the point of this thread was to support each others, like a group of friends at a bar. Where everyone knows your name, and they are always glad you came.

Dammit where's Norm...

Anyway , as I was saying we are all friends here so we talk to each other about things like this... It's never a bother

PS: I noticed today that as a Volus I pretty much ran around bumping into everyone elses butt.... Kinda disturbing

Modifié par Spiritwolf1, 08 novembre 2012 - 01:48 .


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Anyone ever had really, really strange stats for your stories before?

This month, my origin fic (which hasn't updated since September) has a minimum of basically 5 visitors per chapter. As usual, the first chapter has 37 visitors and 45 views. My last chapter (which has historically been fairly popular), has 12 visitors with 13 views.

My fifth chapter, for some ungodly reason, has 17 visitors and 38 views.Whereas both chapters sandwiching it are 5/5.
Kind of baffles me. Don't get me wrong, it was one of my favourite chapters to write, as I went into Conatix, and that background subplot, and really worked at developing my Shep, but...I just can't fathom why. There's someone in the states who viewed the chapter six times yesterday, and two visitors the day before who combined for 8 views. I just don't get it. I hope they're getting something out of it, at least. :\\

In other news, I agree with Spiritwolf :) We're a nice little cozy community. Kind of like Cheers (as Spiritwolf not so subtly referenced) :D

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fluffywalrus wrote...

Anyone ever had really, really strange stats for your stories before?

This month, my origin fic (which hasn't updated since September) has a minimum of basically 5 visitors per chapter. As usual, the first chapter has 37 visitors and 45 views. My last chapter (which has historically been fairly popular), has 12 visitors with 13 views.

My fifth chapter, for some ungodly reason, has 17 visitors and 38 views.Whereas both chapters sandwiching it are 5/5.
Kind of baffles me. Don't get me wrong, it was one of my favourite chapters to write, as I went into Conatix, and that background subplot, and really worked at developing my Shep, but...I just can't fathom why. There's someone in the states who viewed the chapter six times yesterday, and two visitors the day before who combined for 8 views. I just don't get it. I hope they're getting something out of it, at least. :

In other news, I agree with Spiritwolf :) We're a nice little cozy community. Kind of like Cheers (as Spiritwolf not so subtly referenced) :D


Yes! I believe I mentioned it previously, or maybe I only thought about mentioning it. But last month, Chapter 21 of my story somehow managed to accumulate 64 viewers and 160 views... The only Chapter that came even close to those numbers was Chapter 1. Most were way below those numbers. Made me wonder why someone would come and read Chapter 21 without reading any of the Chapters before it.

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Drussius wrote...

fluffywalrus wrote...

Anyone ever had really, really strange stats for your stories before?

This month, my origin fic (which hasn't updated since September) has a minimum of basically 5 visitors per chapter. As usual, the first chapter has 37 visitors and 45 views. My last chapter (which has historically been fairly popular), has 12 visitors with 13 views.

My fifth chapter, for some ungodly reason, has 17 visitors and 38 views.Whereas both chapters sandwiching it are 5/5.
Kind of baffles me. Don't get me wrong, it was one of my favourite chapters to write, as I went into Conatix, and that background subplot, and really worked at developing my Shep, but...I just can't fathom why. There's someone in the states who viewed the chapter six times yesterday, and two visitors the day before who combined for 8 views. I just don't get it. I hope they're getting something out of it, at least. :

In other news, I agree with Spiritwolf :) We're a nice little cozy community. Kind of like Cheers (as Spiritwolf not so subtly referenced) :D


Yes! I believe I mentioned it previously, or maybe I only thought about mentioning it. But last month, Chapter 21 of my story somehow managed to accumulate 64 viewers and 160 views... The only Chapter that came even close to those numbers was Chapter 1. Most were way below those numbers. Made me wonder why someone would come and read Chapter 21 without reading any of the Chapters before it.

Well, 21 is a great number, but still...yeah, that's kind of crazy :P
Maybe they're strange time-travelers. Or Daleks. Can I blame Daleks? I think I will.:whistle:

But honestly, the only logical thing I can think of is someone doing research, drawing some lore from a single chapter, and returning to in a number of times to see if they got all the wanted. Or a bunch of people are slow readers and had to return to a chapter a bunch of times.

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I've tried analysing the numbers on my chapters and pretty much gave up.  They seem to make no sense.  Would someone come along and only start reading from a chapter midway through the whole story?  You wouldn't think so but the numbers sometimes say otherwise.  Are you considering the Legacy Stats as well?  Monthly ones can be a bit deceptive as regular readers probably will not be re-reading previous chapts.  Legacy Stats only gives 'views' and not 'visits' but as a general idea it's okay.

I find it a little frustrating that while I seem to get quite a few visits and views, I get very few reviews.  Max of 2 per chapter these days, but usually only one.  That people are still visiting is obviously a good thing, I'd still like to know what they think.  Validate me!    :D

Modifié par MrStoob, 08 novembre 2012 - 11:47 .


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Wow my first crap review. :) I was waiting for when and if that would ever happen. This person seems very irritated. :) I'm honestly looking into what he/she posted to see if it's needs to be changed or re-worked but it is, like a tv sitcom soap opera. haha :)

Interestingly enough, I wouldn't know if people didn't have a problem with the story until they mentioned it. All I got was it's great can't wait for the next. How would I get better? :)

This person also doesn't like Ashley Williams. Guess what reviewer she's going to be in a lot of my story near the end... whining and ****ing about Cerberus. :)   I was going to follow up with this person but they have it so they don't get any pm's what-so-ever... well, now... that adds a whole new level of me taking that person seriously. :blink:

How do you guys/gals handle negativity in reviews. Take them with a grain of salt or look into the problem.

Modifié par enayasoul, 08 novembre 2012 - 04:24 .


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In this case, maybe your story just isn't what they're looking for. I can't say the fault lies with you because you've been pretty consistent in style and tone, and you clearly know how to achieve what you set out to.

It may be worth looking at how some of your characters are acting, if it is really annoying people/this one person. But considering that yours reads a little 'lighter' than the games, in some regards, I'd expect a looser interpretation of them anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I may well be), but you're just having fun with the story and probably experimenting with a few elements. It's not as if you're writing a legitimate ME substitute as I know some writers like to.

Essentially, it all comes down to how relevant you find the feedback. For one, their unabashed hatred towards certain characters as presented in-game (and being influenced by Tali fans) already undermines their position somewhat anyway. No point trying to win them over with that one.

The only thing I would really take into consideration is the comment: "I don’t [know] why everyone on the ship has a problem with them being together, it’s never explained."

Could be that they don't like any tension from a romance story (even though you've labelled yours Drama) or perhaps they have a valid point and that a bit more effort could be put into portraying the other characters' reasons for their disapproval.

Hope that feedback about feedback helps!

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enayasoul wrote...

Wow my first crap review. :) I was waiting for when and if that would ever happen. This person seems very irritated. :) I'm honestly looking into what he/she posted to see if it's needs to be changed or re-worked but it is, like a tv sitcom soap opera. haha :)

Interestingly enough, I wouldn't know if people didn't have a problem with the story until they mentioned it. All I got was it's great can't wait for the next. How would I get better? :)

This person also doesn't like Ashley Williams. Guess what reviewer she's going to be in a lot of my story near the end... whining and ****ing about Cerberus. :)   I was going to follow up with this person but they have it so they don't get any pm's what-so-ever... well, now... that adds a whole new level of me taking that person seriously. :blink:

How do you guys/gals handle negativity in reviews. Take them with a grain of salt or look into the problem.


I normally just try and see what in specific has bugged them, I try to look at it objectively to see how it could be improved, or if their complaint holds substance, and then i make notes for the future, I don't bend over backward, but I'll entertain any negative comments because i know a lot stop reading after my first chapters,

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hot_heart wrote...

In this case, maybe your story just isn't what they're looking for. I can't say the fault lies with you because you've been pretty consistent in style and tone, and you clearly know how to achieve what you set out to.

It may be worth looking at how some of your characters are acting, if it is really annoying people/this one person. But considering that yours reads a little 'lighter' than the games, in some regards, I'd expect a looser interpretation of them anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I may well be), but you're just having fun with the story and probably experimenting with a few elements. It's not as if you're writing a legitimate ME substitute as I know some writers like to.

Essentially, it all comes down to how relevant you find the feedback. For one, their unabashed hatred towards certain characters as presented in-game (and being influenced by Tali fans) already undermines their position somewhat anyway. No point trying to win them over with that one.

The only thing I would really take into consideration is the comment: "I don’t [know] why everyone on the ship has a problem with them being together, it’s never explained."

Could be that they don't like any tension from a romance story (even though you've labelled yours Drama) or perhaps they have a valid point and that a bit more effort could be put into portraying the other characters' reasons for their disapproval.

Hope that feedback about feedback helps!


No you're right. I'm just having fun with the characters and storyline.  It's not meant to be taken seriously. :)

Yeah, I can understand the comment about it being never explained... That I can see. I'll need to work on that issue.

It does remind me of how Jack and Garrus didn't like Miranda stepping up to be the second fireteam leader near the end of ME2 though.  The crew had to know... or suspect they knew what Miranda did with Shepard. <_< 

Could be where the idea spawned from... not sure.  But yes, don't know if *I* have ever had the characters tell why they didn't like Miranda and Shepard together.  Something to look into for sure.

Thanks for the feedback. This helps. ;)

Modifié par enayasoul, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:03 .


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I must admit I'm not up-to-date with the details of your story but, for starters, I suppose there's the fact that Miranda is not really a 'people person' (which is why she claims the fire team leader decision is not a popularity contest). She's not really concerned with other people's feelings a lot of the time, unless it endangers the mission to a greater extent. Of course, Miranda has changed depending on where the story is, but people's perception of her might not have.

Maybe some of the ME1 teammates have sensed a shift in Shepard since meeting Miranda, like she's a corrupting presence on the former Alliance marine. Or perhaps they fear she's only using him for whatever reason. It could be different things to different characters.

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Curiosity got the better of me so I read that review and it just reads as fan rage. I'd personally ignore it as there are elements of personal attack in it. Very little actual critique, just personal preference. So the Miranda you have interpretted doesn't fit the reviewers 'version' of Miranda? Boo hoo! :D

Oh, and they are wrong.  Mass Effect is 'Space Opera', so they don't even know the genre really.

Modifié par MrStoob, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:20 .


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If anything, I think Shepard has(had) a positive influence on Miranda. Liara even states this at the end of the shadow broker dlc.

fic wise: I've had tali telling Shepard to be careful in regards to Miranda being "ex-cerberus" and in so many words saying people just don't quit being who they are, or associated with certain organizations. (chapter 7... tali is warning Shepard about what she thinks of Miranda... my "tali" doesn't approve of "my shep" caring for Miranda.) Not sure why "my shepard" should be **** slapping tali, that's so not my shepard. He doesn't abuse or hurt women. :(  

[ only thing I can think of is because it caused some tension between Shepard and Miranda... and Shepard believing Tali? ]  Huh. :huh: 

I do have Jacob questioning Miranda's relationship with Shepard. (maybe out of some kind jealously... I went with the idea of Miranda dumping Jacob. That is was only a fling and not serious and now Miranda is actually *serious* with *my shepard* and wasn't with Jacob.)

Yeah, there is a lot of tension in this fic... not going to be all sun shine and bunnies like joker always says.

Back to work on chapter 23... totally reworked it from what I originally wrote, merged two chapters together and delete scenes... hopefully it's better but we'll see.

Modifié par enayasoul, 08 novembre 2012 - 10:01 .


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Heh. Well, it sounds like you have it all in-hand anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much about the review.

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You're right, I wasted two hours thinking over this review. You gained +15 in skin thickening... Haha.

Thank you Mr. Stoob!

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Have any of you tried the fanmade mode that cut out the Starbrat and the RGB? I'm tempted. :lol: On another note, plodding slowly through the current chapter.

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Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Have any of you tried the fanmade mode that cut out the Starbrat and the RGB? I'm tempted. :lol: On another note, plodding slowly through the current chapter.


I've had a look at it on YT, but I'm not into denial.  :P

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Just a quickie (I hope).  When someone say 'oooh' meaning something has just dawned on them, how do people write it so it's different to 'oooh' like when at a firework display?

"Ooooh, that looks nice."

"Ooooh, so that's why he went mad."

Modifié par MrStoob, 09 novembre 2012 - 10:26 .


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It's usually relayed through the rest of sentence as well as descriptive after like "Oooh," he said raising a brow, mildly surprised

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Tra-la-la.

Well it's more interesting than just 'bump' eh? ^^ Can't let this go to page 2, no siree.

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hey everyone, just notifiyng you guys that i may be a bit distrant in the while to come, the reason for this being (two?) words: Halo 4

see you guys around :D

S.R.

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Hey guys, it's been a while. Life's been keeping me busy. Also, doing the National November Writing Month Challenge. Still not sure why I thought this would be a good idea.

Anyways, is it bad if I honestly don't care about the amount of favourites/followers that I get anymore? I've already received way more than I ever expected, and I assume there'd be a saturation rate somewhere in the 100+. Probably. Most likely. Not sure why I have so many for the small amount of chapters in my story.

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Icyflare wrote...

Hey guys, it's been a while. Life's been keeping me busy. Also, doing the National November Writing Month Challenge. Still not sure why I thought this would be a good idea.

Anyways, is it bad if I honestly don't care about the amount of favourites/followers that I get anymore? I've already received way more than I ever expected, and I assume there'd be a saturation rate somewhere in the 100+. Probably. Most likely. Not sure why I have so many for the small amount of chapters in my story.


Hope the writing challenge is going well for you :)

Caring about favourites/followers isn't a big thing for me either. Sometimes the stats confuse me, or whatever, and when I get an alert that someone's following/favourited a story of mine, I might smile for a second or two, but it's not that big. I tend to care about reviews more, because I like talking to others. That's kind of it.

As for why you have "so many", your story's good and it's fun to read. There :wizard:

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I have no idea what I'm doing, but, my god, is it a relief to not edit. I hadn't realized how much revising comprises of my writing time until I stopped doing it altogether.

The stats on the chapters confuse me too. I don't bother and only look at the overall numbers, because the views/visits thing is such a pain.

Yeah, "so many" is subjective. I'm just baffled by how some stories get a load of reviews and a relatively smaller number of favourite/followers while others get the reverse. I'm curious as to whether there's something intrinsic about the stories that cause that phenomenon or whether that's just a chance thing. It seems too unlikely to be caused entirely by luck. Yes, it could be partially be due to an author's unpredictable update schedule, but I don't believe that explains everything.

Yay, space magic. Honestly, I do realize I sound completely insecure when I point out how puzzled I am that people actually like my writing, and I appreciate the repeated reassurances. Also, your patience :)

But yeah, I can't objectively evaluate my story when I'm in the middle of writing it. All I see when I look at it sometimes is "Dammit, I wrote that clumsily. How can I make it better?"