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[Lilivati]

Once you start asking questions like "Where the hell did the Gernsback crew get thermal clip weapons from?" you're basically lost down the rabbit hole.

Though admittedly a mission with NO ammo- sorry "thermal clip"- refills would've been kind of interesting, just from a mechanics perspective. Sort of a unique challenge.

[Dark Satris]

hey guys, slight problem i'm having on ffnet

i accepted to be a guy's beta-reader, and he sent me the Doc through Docx (finally learned how that works xD), but how am i supposed to download it?

help is appreciated,

S.R.

[Dark Satris]

nvm, found a temporary solution

[Drussius]

Well, I just felt like sharing because I hit a landmark that tickled me a bit. It's certainly nothing as amazingly impressive as Ursakar's 500 favs (congrats, btw!) but today, for the first time ever, I broke 100 views of my story in a single day. That made me smile. Even if only 52 of them were separate visitors.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Congrats Druss.

That's usually the case with a lot of us. Mine for example had about 1000 views this month, but only 432 separate users.

It just kind of makes me wonder though. You get so many user views whenever you post a new chapter, so it seems like you have a decent following. But then like, you get absolutely no feedback from any of them. Just a little nerve-wracking if you ask me. It kind of makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong.

[MrStoob]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Congrats Druss.

That's usually the case with a lot of us. Mine for example had about 1000 views this month, but only 432 separate users.

It just kind of makes me wonder though. You get so many user views whenever you post a new chapter, so it seems like you have a decent following. But then like, you get absolutely no feedback from any of them. Just a little nerve-wracking if you ask me. It kind of makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong.

Hehe.  The mysteries of the viewing figures.  If they keep coming back then you must be doing something right.  That said, I also like a bit of feedback but get little apart from one particular reviewer.  It'd be nice to know thich areas are working well and which need work.

Edit: was just having a look at stats and whatnot and noticed a 'comedy' one shot I did has been added to a commumity archive.  Nice.  

Modifié par MrStoob, 21 novembre 2012 - 11:13 .

[fluffywalrus]

Hooray Drussius! I remember that feel when I hit that mark with Flotsam. (my peak hovered around that mark for my origin fic)

Yeah, sometimes you get a lot of views (and visitors) but few reviews. I had a much higher visitor:review ratio on Flotsam than with Feathers, but I get over double the traffic on Feathers...but that comes with the territory, having a Liara/Shep pairing. Not a lot of people review (which i try to make up for...I'm a few reviews shy of 700), but it certainly doesn't mean they don't enjoy the writing. I mean, they come back, and that's enough to tell me that they're getting some entertainment out of it. This month, a guy from Finland read my origin fic in a single day, and followed it up with my ME1 arc fic. Doesn't get much nicer than that, knowing someone's probably relaxing at home (hopefully with a cup of hot chocolate, seeing as it's November) and wants to read your stuff in one go.

I mean, would it be nice to get some CC more often? Sure, but in the end, I know I write for my own amusement, and for other people to keep themselves amused, so I know I'm doing something right, even if the visitors/views were low, and even if no one reviewed.

Modifié par fluffywalrus, 21 novembre 2012 - 02:32 .

[Spiritwolf1]

Congrats Dru and you deserve every pat on the back you get, you had developed an amazing story with amazing characters and put a nice fresh spin on an old story. Here to the next 100

[Spiritwolf1]

Well got my most recent chapter out with thanks to Fluffy and Gryph for letting me bounce ideas off them, and I introduced a new cannon character, which will not be names unless one reads. I know this is not the place to mention this stuff but I dont do it often... However if you get a chance to read, let me know how I did with the new umm old character

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Hey all. Got a question on gravity onboard a ship.

So far, I only understood the VP of a pilot in a space combat fighter. This was depicted in B5. A pilot of a Starfury does not sit, he's standing. The better to prevent blackouts if he's doing high-g manuevers. The Starfury, essentially, can pivot in any direction. This is the first and earliest true blue space fighter I've seen depicted to behave/fly correctly in a SF tv series.

Now, the Normany is a frigate. I figure Joker never tries any nutty maneuvers due to the fact there's a crew onboard and because it's not a one-man fighter. But then, what happens if he's forced to do a very tight turn? What happens within? I don't think anyone would be doing Star Trekkie workouts (bend to the right/left)  

Tis stated that during combat situations, gravity systems would be turned off (for ME universe) to reduce systems overheating, leaving only a strip of deck that is presumbaly magnetised or something so everyone could at least walk about without floating if they need do. So does that mean they get flipped off if Joker does his thing?

[MrStoob]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Hey all. Got a question on gravity onboard a ship.

So far, I only understood the VP of a pilot in a space combat fighter. This was depicted in B5. A pilot of a Starfury does not sit, he's standing. The better to prevent blackouts if he's doing high-g manuevers. The Starfury, essentially, can pivot in any direction. This is the first and earliest true blue space fighter I've seen depicted to behave/fly correctly in a SF tv series.

Now, the Normany is a frigate. I figure Joker never tries any nutty maneuvers due to the fact there's a crew onboard and because it's not a one-man fighter. But then, what happens if he's forced to do a very tight turn? What happens within? I don't think anyone would be doing Star Trekkie workouts (bend to the right/left)  

Tis stated that during combat situations, gravity systems would be turned off (for ME universe) to reduce systems overheating, leaving only a strip of deck that is presumbaly magnetised or something so everyone could at least walk about without floating if they need do. So does that mean they get flipped off if Joker does his thing?

Traynor mentions being strapped into her harness when Joker was pulling some hard manouvres.  I presume it's a hanging strappy type affair.  If it comes to a sudden need to pull crazy manouvres then... who know lol.  Better a few bruises than getting blown up I suppose.  He might warn the crew over the comm with "Brace for manouvres!" or something like that?

[mothbanquet]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Congrats Druss.

That's usually the case with a lot of us. Mine for example had about 1000 views this month, but only 432 separate users.

It just kind of makes me wonder though. You get so many user views whenever you post a new chapter, so it seems like you have a decent following. But then like, you get absolutely no feedback from any of them. Just a little nerve-wracking if you ask me. It kind of makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong.

I've been writing ME fiction for over two years now and I can count on two hands the number of people who regularly comment or give feedback.  At its peak, my Tali/Shep fic (which is without a doubt the weakest of my works) pulled in an audience of over 1k on the release day of a new chapter.  The number of reviews left on FFN?  Average of 5-7.  Out of 1000.

The reasons for this are many.  Some people openly admit to simply being lazy about voicing their opinions while others can feel intimidated by trying to judge the work of others, especially if it's well-written.  So long as your audience numbers remain consistent you can rest assured that your work is engaging enough to keep people coming back for more.

Oh, and out of all my regular fans, only 2 (3 when she has the time) actually give constructive feedback, as in actually point out flaws or issues that need addressing.  Those are the people you need to treasure and build bridges with more than anyone else.  The best advice I can offer is engage with your audience as best you can and never give up.  Sometimes you'll just have bad days/chapter releases that make you wonder why you bother while the next one will bring a flood of comments in right away.  Just keep doing what you love doing and more than anything, enjoy yourself! 

[10K]

My chapter three is finally up after forever. I feel much better now so much so, I'm going to make a turkey sandwich and watch some Shippunden. G'day.

[fluffywalrus]

mosesarose wrote...

My chapter three is finally up after forever. I feel much better now so much so, I'm going to make a turkey sandwich and watch some Shippunden. G'day.

Congrats! Always feels good to get a new chapter out, especially if it's been a while 

[Dark Satris]

mosesarose wrote...

My chapter three is finally up after forever. I feel much better now so much so, I'm going to make a turkey sandwich and watch some Shippunden. G'day.

ah yes... that feeling

[mothbanquet]

Out of interest, how many people have written or are writing OC stories?

[Spiritwolf1]

mothbanquet wrote...

Out of interest, how many people have written or are writing OC stories?

I have written one compley OC story and then one with an OC mixed with two characters from the game and then of course the Shepard ending story

[mothbanquet]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

I have written one compley OC story and then one with an OC mixed with two characters from the game and then of course the Shepard ending story

How do you find the audience numbers compare to those for the canon stories?  I found it to be a lot more fulfilling writing the OC one and the following is stronger than I had any right to hope for, but it still pales in comparison to the sure-fire hit rate of a canon romance fic.  I just wanted to get an idea of other peoples' experiences in that area.

[Spiritwolf1]

both stories with OC have not gotten near what I got for the Shepard/Liara one, I got almost 20x the numbers IM getting for the OCs

[Spiritwolf1]

You have to add to that though, in people's defence, I am not the best or most engaging writer out there (Im just doing it to have fun and I enjoy it)  so if Im not writing about popular character people won't come. I would ask Dru cause his is a bunch of OC's as well but he is a great and engaging writers and his characters are amazing.

Modifié par Spiritwolf1, 23 novembre 2012 - 08:08 .

[Ursakar]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

You have to add to that though, in people's defence, I am not the best or most engaging writer out there (Im just doing it to have fun and I enjoy it)  so if Im not writing about popular character people won't come. I would ask Dru cause his is a bunch of OC's as well but he is a great and engaging writers and his characters are amazing.

Your skill as a writer is not really a major issue here. The fact that you get smaller numbers means that a lot of people ignore the story completely. The majority of the ME fans are fans of the game's main characters rather than the ME franchise as a whole. Thus they tend to ignore the OC's stories.

I have question myself to all of you: do you people give any feedback to your readers when they post reviews or make comments? Me, I always send a private message, even if it is a simple 'thank you' message.

Modifié par Ursakar, 23 novembre 2012 - 02:07 .

[Lilivati]

Ursakar wrote...
Your skill as a writer is not really a major issue here. The fact that you get smaller numbers means that a lot of people ignore the story completely. The majority of the ME fans are fans of the game's main characters rather than the ME franchise as a whole. Thus they tend to ignore the OC's stories.

I have question myself to all of you: do you people give any feedback to your readers when they post reviews or make comments? Me, I always send a private message, even if it is a simple 'thank you' message.

I think there's also a significant bias towards certain kinds of stories, at least on FF.  For example I feel personally that Aftermath is much more poorly written than Beginnings, to the point that if I continued it I'd probably start from scratch with a rewrite, but it got far better traffic stats- probably because it's both an alt ending story and more romantic in nature.  But it's all anecdotal speculation.

I started responding to reviews as a result of this thread.  I wasn't sure if that was considered odd or rude in the FF community when I started posting there.  Most of them don't write back, but that's ok.  Mostly the objective is to just let them know I appreciated them taking the time.  I kind of wish reviews worked more like a forum, sometimes, but I can see why they'd want to leave it as is.

Modifié par Lilivati, 23 novembre 2012 - 02:48 .

[fluffywalrus]

I'll agree that people tend to read fics for the ME characters, rather than the ME universe as a whole, so OC stories get less views. Hell, my Shep origin fic for most of its duration was at ~25-30 visitors per chapter within 2 days of release.
My current fic running through the ME1 campaign gets about 140-180 visitors per chapter within 2 days of release. I chalk a lot of that up to it being a Shep/Liara pairing, but also because it involves more characters than just my Shep.

So...yeah. OC fics get less readers, but I don't think it matters all that much. It's not so much the quantity as the quality, and all my readers are fantastic for giving my stories the time of day

As for leaving remarks to those who review, I do. I like responding to feedback, answering any questions, making small jokes, or whatever. It's fun, and I like to try and let the people who review that I'm pretty damn happy about it
But that's just me. I make time in my schedule to do that, and to review what I read (just broke 700 reviews!), so generally I just like typing messages and bugging people anyway

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Heh. Not in the mood to write, ended up watching Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (Daniel Craig and Rooney Mara). The bluray has been sitting for a while on the shelf.

The pacing was good. I've to say I'm very taken with the Lisbeth Salander char. RM fleshed her out very well (no pun intended! Get your head out of the gutter! ). Also like DC's Mihael Blomkvist. I enjoyed this movie so much I watched it again after it ended. I really hoped the movie sequels come out soon 'cause really, I hope the producers follow the novels as they did the first because I like how this trilogy ended. Salander deserves something good after all the **** she had been through.

Now my heads's whirling around Salander that I'm even more out of sorts. Definitely no mood to write!

[fluffywalrus]

Haha, I know the feel. Some days, I just...I just can't find it in me to write. Whether it's from school-related stress or interest, or from sheer laziness or just not having time to sit down...it's just one of those things that comes and goes, I feel.

Other days, I only have it in me to write fluff (which hasn't really come up all that often in my fics). Fortunately, I had started a bit of my 15th chapter, and I was really in the mood to write fluff yesterday, so that chapter's done now... about 11,500 words of moderate fluff