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[Dark Satris]

hmm, balancing OC's is a pain in the ass, but i have a simple enough solution: make the enemies even godlier

(also, OC writing is awesome as you know all about the characters; you create them)

Modifié par Dark Satris, 24 novembre 2012 - 10:36 .

[Ursakar]

kalenath wrote...

Yeah, godmode characters SEEM fun, but writing them believably? Ouchtime.

I have an OC who started out as a Sentinel, went to Adept training and THEN wound up in the N7 program as a Fury.

But no, she can't use Singularity, Overload AND Dark Channel at the same time. She is good, she is not that good.

My OC is a 1500 year old Eldar Farseer from another dimension who is a powerful psyker (If she is really pissed off she could create an eldritch storm that is capable of destroying a medium sized military unit in a matter of seconds). She is also capable of divining the future.

Problem is, she is not overpowered in any way according to WH40k canon. The Eldar Farseers are just that powerful. Thus I have to be always careful with her because she could easily outshine all other characters.

[kalenath]

Ursakar wrote...

kalenath wrote...

Yeah, godmode characters SEEM fun, but writing them believably? Ouchtime.

I have an OC who started out as a Sentinel, went to Adept training and THEN wound up in the N7 program as a Fury.

But no, she can't use Singularity, Overload AND Dark Channel at the same time. She is good, she is not that good.

My OC is a 1500 year old Eldar Farseer from another dimension who is a powerful psyker (If she is really pissed off she could create an eldritch storm that is capable of destroying a medium sized military unit in a matter of seconds). She is also capable of divining the future.

Problem is, she is not overpowered in any way according to WH40k canon. The Eldar Farseers are just that powerful. Thus I have to be always careful with her because she could easily outshine all other characters.

Good point. WH40K stuff is SERIOUSLY overpowered by most ofther games standpoints but fun if you can get it right. I toyed with the idea of a Tau Hunter Cadre (On a manta Missle Destroyer) getting lost and winding up either in the ME universe or the Star Wars one. Then I said, 'Nah, too powerful'. Orks maybe...

At least you didn't write a Space Marine Primarch. I can just imagine Lemas Russ (Primarch of the Space Wolves Legion for people who don't know) meeting a Reaper and going "What do I do AFTER breakfast?' before charging to slay the thing in single combat.

Funny thing is... He would likely win...

Modifié par kalenath, 25 novembre 2012 - 12:17 .

[MrStoob]

I had a reasonably well received OC but killed him off, probably too early lol.

[mothbanquet]

kalenath wrote...

Good point. WH40K stuff is SERIOUSLY overpowered by most ofther games standpoints but fun if you can get it right. I toyed with the idea of a Tau Hunter Cadre (On a manta Missle Destroyer) getting lost and winding up either in the ME universe or the Star Wars one. Then I said, 'Nah, too powerful'. Orks maybe...

At least you didn't write a Space Marine Primarch. I can just imagine Lemas Russ (Primarch of the Space Wolves Legion for people who don't know) meeting a Reaper and going "What do I do AFTER breakfast?' before charging to slay the thing in single combat.

Funny thing is... He would likely win...

40K Orks in the ME universe?  Now THAT is something I'd like to see!  I seriously think those guys are the only ones who'd look forward to a Reaper invasion...

As far as OCs go, I've found that if anything, audiences are quick to identify with more relatable characters than people who can bring the galaxy to ruin with godlike biotic powers.  Same can be said about bad guys; you know when fans start rooting for the antagonists of a story that you've struck a chord.

[Ursakar]

mothbanquet wrote...

40K Orks in the ME universe?  Now THAT is something I'd like to see!  I seriously think those guys are the only ones who'd look forward to a Reaper invasion...

There is actually a new ME/WH40k crossover that is called Dakka Effect and it's going to be about Orks in Mass Effect.

[mothbanquet]

Ursakar wrote...

There is actually a new ME/WH40k crossover that is called Dakka Effect and it's going to be about Orks in Mass Effect.

I can see it now...

Harbinger:  It is impossible to resist.  The cycle cannot be broken.

Orks:  WAAAAAAAAAAAGGHH!!!

Harbinger (on seeing the green tide):  On second thoughts, dark space might be a little safer.  Come on gents, the cycle can wait a bit longer...

[kalenath]

mothbanquet wrote...
I can see it now...

Harbinger:  It is impossible to resist.  The cycle cannot be broken.

Orks:  WAAAAAAAAAAAGGHH!!!

Harbinger (on seeing the green tide):  On second thoughts, dark space might be a little safer.  Come on gents, the cycle can wait a bit longer...

Hey, even Harbinger has to know it's limits...

And the green tide is NOT to be trifled with. MOAR DAKKA!

'Er we go!

'Er we go!

*Boom*

OY! Whose put the red button on the 'stop' switch? I'z gonna KRUMP em!

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Q about FFN.

If I want to submit a story of a title that's not listed in the sub-category. Example: Tv show -> title. What sould I do? Is it still possible to submit the story?

P.S. Nevermind. I changed my mind.

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 25 novembre 2012 - 01:17 .

[Spiritwolf1]

fluffywalrus wrote...

[One chapter a day is a torrid pace Good for you, for being able to do that.

(And I agree, OCs cab be a lot of fun, but they can carry some trouble with them)

My first story was all the Mass Effect people and although it was fun, and I loved the characters  (which is why I wrote for them), I will admit that my OC story and the new OC I introduced in my story about Sam, have been the most fun, creating their back grounds, fitting them in the the Mass Effect worled and then building on them in the story has been highly rewarding. I do agree with what someone wrote with god characters being hard to write for, I find trhey are also hard to read, a chacter without weakness or flaws...have never really been my favorite... amd Gryph I think there is an Others catagory somewhere for storys that have nowhere to go

[mothbanquet]

By the way, I want to share something with you guys.  A friend of mine on deviantART has created a group devoted to helping people make the most of what they create, as well as tips on how to present your work and interact with your readership.  This can definitely be applied to fan fiction (in fact, she's an ME writer herself, as well as a professional), and I really recommend you take a look at the advice on offer:

build-your-platform.deviantart.com/

Even if you're just writing for fun, it's always nice to have more readers/feedback and this might help you understand the process a little better.

Modifié par mothbanquet, 25 novembre 2012 - 03:26 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

^ Nice. Took a look. I'd say I myself don't have art. I'm just a country bumpkin with basic skills in every way.    Or lack thereof.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

.. amd Gryph I think there is an Others catagory somewhere for storys that have nowhere to go

No, that option is for chars, not story. But nvm. Thanks though.

P.S. Finished the third novel. I'm not disappointed at how it went, at least Salander got back her rights and her life. Too bad the author suddenly passed on and never finished the 4th novel.

Would have to view the Swedish versions but maybe next year. hmm, hopefully, I can accept another L.Salander version. Read the critics' reviews for the American version. As a lay person, their jargon went over my head.   I read only midsurface, never that deep into any movie. Am not that intelligent on big words and mind blowing analyses that seem to run in circles.

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 26 novembre 2012 - 11:08 .

[Spiritwolf1]

Bump... I absolutely love the Swedish versions

[ToaOrka]

Okie doke, three questions:

1. So, according to their ME3 in-game description, I know weapons like the Crusader existed during ME, the soldiers apparently having used the weapon on Torfan. My question is what weapons would've existed before ME2 as well? So far I've got the Crusader, Disciple, Widow, Katana, Mantis, Avenger, Predator, Shuriken, Collector weapons, and Prothean weapons.

2. If not implicitly stated (like the acolyte stating it was made for the resistance), should I just assume at least a prototype of the weapon would've existed during ME1 times?

3. There's a link in my signature to my own OC-fiction I'm working on, would any of you guys with dA accounts be willing to drop by there and leave me some advice?

[kalenath]

ToaOrka wrote...

Okie doke, three questions:

1. So, according to their ME3 in-game description, I know weapons like the Crusader existed during ME, the soldiers apparently having used the weapon on Torfan. My question is what weapons would've existed before ME2 as well? So far I've got the Crusader, Disciple, Widow, Katana, Mantis, Avenger, Predator, Shuriken, Collector weapons, and Prothean weapons.

2. If not implicitly stated (like the acolyte stating it was made for the resistance), should I just assume at least a prototype of the weapon would've existed during ME1 times?

3. There's a link in my signature to my own OC-fiction I'm working on, would any of you guys with dA accounts be willing to drop by there and leave me some advice?

1) From what I can determine, most of the weapons existed during the events of ME1, in experimental form at least. The Revenant was known if VERY expensive. The Widow as well (used by specail sniper teams), but it was too heavy for normal soldiers to carry. The Claymore would break any non-Krogan's arms if they tried to fire it. Shepard could use all of them because, well, it was Shepard. The Geth weapons were VERY rare, but not 'new'.

The ones that I believe were NEW at the time of ME2 were the Incisor sniper rifle, Evicerator shotgun and Phalanx heavy pistol. There is some question as to WHEN the SMGs started showing up. But the Locust was known, if almost unobtainable. (Locked in a vault)

2) The Acolyte may have been in development before the war, but NOTHING speeds R&D like a war. Especally a war like the Reaper war. The idea was probably there, after all biotic barriers and shields were becoming MUCH more common. But the weapon itself was likely developed during the conflict and rushed into service, like the Krysea.

Modifié par kalenath, 26 novembre 2012 - 01:02 .

[mothbanquet]

kalenath wrote...

1) From what I can determine, most of the weapons existed during the events of ME1, in experimental form at least. The Revenant was known if VERY expensive. The Widow as well (used by specail sniper teams), but it was too heavy for normal soldiers to carry. The Claymore would break any non-Krogan's arms if they tried to fire it. Shepard could use all of them because, well, it was Shepard. The Geth weapons were VERY rare, but not 'new'.

The ones that I believe were NEW at the time of ME2 were the Incisor sniper rifle, Evicerator shotgun and Phalanx heavy pistol. There is some question as to WHEN the SMGs started showing up. But the Locust was known, if almost unobtainable. (Locked in a vault)

2) The Acolyte may have been in development before the war, but NOTHING speeds R&D like a war. Especally a war like the Reaper war. The idea was probably there, after all biotic barriers and shields were becoming MUCH more common. But the weapon itself was likely developed during the conflict and rushed into service, like the Krysea.

Thanks man, you've made me feel better about having a Revenant, Widow and early-model Carnifex in my pre-ME1 fic!

[Spiritwolf1]

Not being a fan of either Kaiden or Ashley, I find there lack of trust in Shepard very, very annoying, both in the second and third games. I haven't decided yet which annoys me more though. Ashley is a **** about it and Kaiden is down right whiney about it... just to save the thread from the second page hell, I ask you all which you think was more annoying

Modifié par Spiritwolf1, 27 novembre 2012 - 12:05 .

[kalenath]

For me, it really depends on if they have been romanced. If so, I find Ashley the worst.

If not, Kaiden makes me want to bash his face in.

[fluffywalrus]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

Not being a fan of either Kaiden or Ashley, I find there lack of trust in Shepard very, very annoying, both in the second and third games. I haven't decided yet which annoys me more though. Ashley is a **** about it and Kaiden is down right whiney about it... just to save the thread from the second page hell, I ask you all which you think was more annoying

I find Kaidan a little worse, only because with Ash, she's loyal to the blue before she's loyal to you, and that's how she'll always be. Add on top of that the fact that The Alliance represents humanity, and Cerberus is exposed in ME1 as a group that's pretty much sacrificng innocents and damaging humanity...it makes absolute sense that she'd be so immensely pissed off. Especially that she got "saved" by "Cerberus" on horizon, instead of her Alliance prevailing. She believes in the Alliance, she wants to think they know what they're doing, that they're doing the right thing.  For them to be shown up like that and for things to be flipped upside down, in a matter of speaking, it could really play a number on her...not to mention her belief in religion and that if you're dead, you go to heaven or hell. You don't just come back.

So Ash...it's friggin annoying, but I respect why she's so pissed, and so paranoid about Shepard. It just makes sense for her character, and that's why it's acceptable to me.

With Kaidan, he doesn't really have that to fall back on. He's not the kind that bleeds blue, he just wants to do the right thing.  I've always seen him as someone who would be more loyal to people and a cause than some organization. That's why he makes a lot less sense to me. I could keep giving reasons, but meh.

[hot_heart]

Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head, fluffy. It's funny because Ash has always been a bit '****y' (for want of a better word) but she seems different in ME3. I know she had a different writer.

[Ursakar]

The whole mistrust issue always sounded a bit too far-fetched for me. I understand why Bioware did it but every time I saw that scene on Horizon I wanted to use the famous phrase of Stanislavski: Ne veryu! (I do not believe you!). I think it was either poorly written or poorly performed.

[fluffywalrus]

Ursakar wrote...

The whole mistrust issue always sounded a bit too far-fetched for me. I understand why Bioware did it but every time I saw that scene on Horizon I wanted to use the famous phrase of Stanislavski: Ne veryu! (I do not believe you!). I think it was either poorly written or poorly performed.

I think sometimes that it was a bit much...it certainly could have been dialed back, or been made into a longer discussion (with better dialogue options on the player's behalf) in order to make it more fitting. Also, the whole "one and done" thing annoyed me. Same with Anderson. it's like, there was no point in those two (VS/Anderson) being in ME2 other than as a cheap device to show you how distanced you are from where you once were, as if it isn't evident enough.

[AustereLemur799]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

Not being a fan of either Kaiden or Ashley, I find there lack of trust in Shepard very, very annoying, both in the second and third games. I haven't decided yet which annoys me more though. Ashley is a **** about it and Kaiden is down right whiney about it... just to save the thread from the second page hell, I ask you all which you think was more annoying

Well Kaidan meets his maker in 9/10 of my playthroughs, so I can't really comment so much on him. However, I can see why people are downright annoyed by Kaidan and Ashley. Personally I've never been that interested in them because they are the 'default humans' - just like Miranda and Jacob's role in ME2.

On the other hand, I'm one of those people who thinks that the entire argument of 'follow the humans because they know what they're doing and they can get the job done' in ME3 is complete and utter garbage. I don't get why people are so keen to fall in line with Shepard - in that sense, I think that Kaidan and Ashley are justified. But, then, Shepard was forced to be Cerberus's lapdog in ME2 which makes K & A (sorry, I'm lazy ) sound condescending - although it's not really their fault. Coming back from the dead is kind of hard to believe. I would be cautious too - I don't even think that Shepard is truly the 'original' - some of her/him must've been cloned to a degree.

However, I do agree that the Mars mission comes across as whiney. Shepard has been in solitary confinement or whatever. Delivering the Normandy SR-2 to the Alliance is a coup. What more can they ask for? Clearly there's just no pleasing some people.

I dunno, blame the writers.

[AustereLemur799]

You guys were talking about writing being fun a couple of pages back. How true is that really?

What's the consensus here? Is it bad when writing isn't enjoyable? At the moment it feels like more of a chore. Do people grind out chapters to meet deadlines? Is it more business or pleasure?