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#5801
Dark Satris

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Indeed, my friend, indeed

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AustereLemur799 wrote...

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone Image IPB

May everyone continue to produce lots more good fics Image IPB


Or mediocre ones, like mine ;)

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hot_heart wrote...

They're 'hamstrung' by their own lore there. Animus memories only go up to the conception of a child (or at least the 'special' one in Ezio's case). ACII (or was it Brotherhood? Would explain why it's not explained) demonstrated how the focus shifted from Altair to the pregnant Templar after their secret tryst.

I can appreciate why people don't like the shift, but there's a purpose behind it, thematically and storywise. Problem is that it doesn't really pay off until much later...

p.s. Haytham is totally awesome.


Oh, is that it? I didn't buy AC II because of the idiotic requirement for SP. Just as well, many people complained about it. Anyways, I didn't know about the preggers stuff, etc. Figures why the focus went from Haytham to the American Indian woman then to the kid.

Still don't like it though. *shrug*

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Ha, well, that's understandable, since Haytham is way more charming. I really like his voice actor.

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Obsidian Gryphon

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Doing a bump. This went to page 2 btw. Everyone hung over? :lol:

Currently listening to selected ME soundtrack, from 1 - 3. The main theme from ME 1 never fails to rouse memories of how it was when I first played it. The magic! Then Normandy arising in ME 2. Leaving Earth in ME 3. This is an evoking song, I just pretend all that nonsense in the escape sequence doesn't exist and just feel what the music says. And yes, the love themes. :D

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Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Doing a bump. This went to page 2 btw. Everyone hung over? :lol:

Currently listening to selected ME soundtrack, from 1 - 3. The main theme from ME 1 never fails to rouse memories of how it was when I first played it. The magic! Then Normandy arising in ME 2. Leaving Earth in ME 3. This is an evoking song, I just pretend all that nonsense in the escape sequence doesn't exist and just feel what the music says. And yes, the love themes. :D



I'm hungover everyday Image IPB. Not a good habit to get into btw.

Listening to the ME soundtrack from ME1 in particular is just downright depressing. Definitely my favourite music from the trilogy - 'Vigil' and 'Love Theme' in particular are gems, but just so damn depressing now... I miss those times for sure Image IPB. 'Suicide Mission' in ME2 was just epicness, but I think ME1 had much better atmospheric ambience, if that makes sense. The piano stuff in ME3 is good to be sure, but it's just such a change from the previous two instalments.

Anyways, back to happier things...

Nope, I'm coming up empty...


Spiritwolf1 wrote...

AustereLemur799 wrote...
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone Image IPB

May everyone continue to produce lots more good fics Image IPB


Or mediocre ones, like mine ;)


Don't be silly! Being self-deprecating is my job. Image IPB

Modifié par AustereLemur799, 29 décembre 2012 - 07:52 .


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Well, after really getting down to writing again, I've gone through what I had so far. Spent a good long while cleaning it up all nicely...then got stuck at exactly the same place as before.

Why oh why did I choose to write a protracted fight scene? :?

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Well, long fight scenes CAN be fun...to read. Writing them (at least, in my own experience) gives me a bit of anxiety :P

Were I more capable of writing action, I would certainly offer help. :\\ Good luck with it, though! i hope you catch a break somewhere :)

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Thanks! I might see if someone wants to read it over when it's done. I find it a real juggling act, trying to maintain a decent pace while balancing out enough detail, observation and sensation with the action.

It's a learning experience though...

Modifié par hot_heart, 30 décembre 2012 - 06:50 .


#5810
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I had written an action/fighting to get to an objective. Drawing out the area and where the enemy or enemies will be and how to stop them. Good guys vs the bad guys. I always had both sides with some losses. It can be fun to write but takes time.

I have one coming up in my next chapter that I've written and the thought occurred to me if it's plausible. 4 people against 1. The odds should be in the favor of 4 than one. But they want to take him alive than kill him. :) So I might have to include some kind of barrier or something. :)

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Ah, well I'm writing a Sarah Walker-style, one-on-one, knock-down drag-out fight. Though, it comes off far more sadistic in writing. :?

My main focus was making it plausible that Miranda's almost completely drained when it comes to facing Henry Lawson, as it is in-game. Just gonna write it and see how it comes out.

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hot_heart wrote...

Ah, well I'm writing a Sarah Walker-style, one-on-one, knock-down drag-out fight. Though, it comes off far more sadistic in writing. :?


Always will. That's the thing about writing versus visual media. In vis med, you get what it looks and sounds like, but literature gives you smell, taste and feeling. Case in point- any death in Jurassic Park. You watch the movie, its all fairly tame PG material. You read the Mike Crighton novel, and you're reading about Dennis Nedry blind, being disembowelled. You read about what it feels like to have your own insides fall out. even in stuff written for younger audiences like (for example) the Redwall series. That got made into a kid's cartoon that would maybe suit the intellect of a five year old, but the books would terrify a child of the same age. I mean, even the original cover of the first book was a bit of Nightmare Fuel, and how many child-friendly fictions end with a villain being beheaded by the hero's sharpened shield edge?

My main focus was making it plausible that Miranda's almost completely drained when it comes to facing Henry Lawson, as it is in-game. Just gonna write it and see how it comes out.


Well, if you're looking for pointers, I suggest heavy use of biotics. Not just against the opponent, but also inanimate targets. Have her forced to use her biotics to overcome obstacles like sealed doors, barriers in her way, maybe even holding back a cloud of dangerous gas (never forget how holding back the Seeker Swarms drained the biotics). Have her foe use the environment against her in a way that forces her to use up her reserves. A biotic using her powers a lot will tire very quickly, according to the lore. Use that fact to the full. Miri's good, but was never designed as a biotic powerhouse like Jack, Samara or Liara. Have her pull off feats in keeping with something one of those three would be better equipped to deal with.

Just my two pennies' worth.

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Thanks for the tips! I suppose I should be a little braver.

I've got a trick up my sleeve when it comes to forcing Miranda to use her biotics more, and it should link back to an earlier flashback chapter. That much I know. Probably should mention that I've got to have her concussed for later purposes, too.

It'll all make sense when I get there! I hope...

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fainmaca wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

Ah, well I'm writing a Sarah Walker-style, one-on-one, knock-down drag-out fight. Though, it comes off far more sadistic in writing. :?


Always will. That's the thing about writing versus visual media. In vis med, you get what it looks and sounds like, but literature gives you smell, taste and feeling. Case in point- any death in Jurassic Park. You watch the movie, its all fairly tame PG material. You read the Mike Crighton novel, and you're reading about Dennis Nedry blind, being disembowelled. You read about what it feels like to have your own insides fall out. even in stuff written for younger audiences like (for example) the Redwall series. That got made into a kid's cartoon that would maybe suit the intellect of a five year old, but the books would terrify a child of the same age. I mean, even the original cover of the first book was a bit of Nightmare Fuel, and how many child-friendly fictions end with a villain being beheaded by the hero's sharpened shield edge?

My main focus was making it plausible that Miranda's almost completely drained when it comes to facing Henry Lawson, as it is in-game. Just gonna write it and see how it comes out.


Well, if you're looking for pointers, I suggest heavy use of biotics. Not just against the opponent, but also inanimate targets. Have her forced to use her biotics to overcome obstacles like sealed doors, barriers in her way, maybe even holding back a cloud of dangerous gas (never forget how holding back the Seeker Swarms drained the biotics). Have her foe use the environment against her in a way that forces her to use up her reserves. A biotic using her powers a lot will tire very quickly, according to the lore. Use that fact to the full. Miri's good, but was never designed as a biotic powerhouse like Jack, Samara or Liara. Have her pull off feats in keeping with something one of those three would be better equipped to deal with.

Just my two pennies' worth.


Wait how is Liara a powerhouse biotic like Samara and Jack?:unsure: 

Anyway another to keep in mind is always make sure your not protraying a character as god-like with no flaws or weeknesses. For exampile Samara and Jack are in a level of power few other biotics are, (exceptions of course Aria and other Justicars probably just as matched) but they are not tech types Miranda can overload stuff and probably hack a great deal of systems and securtiy to use to her advantage but doing so likely leaves her vulnerble to attacks if she's not got something watching her back. 

Where Jack and Samara may use brute force to gain access to a locked area Miranda would likely hack her way in and maybe turn off the IFFs so security targets everything making a diversion for her so she's not the only foe to deal with.. Create choas that works in her favor. 

As for writing fight scenes or angry scenes, or even frantic scenes I enjoy, it can be tricky at times but it's fun.

BTW hello everyone, I'm sure my readers are thinking I've given up my fics which isn't the case. They've just been growing and what not, plus I'm prefectionist and won't publish anything until I've finished off the first act of each series.

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A picture is worth a thousand words (as someone once said), and boy they weren't kidding when it comes to writing a fight sequence. Wish I could offer some advice, but nothing springs to mind. So I'll just have to offer some encouragment instead, as soon as I can think up something good!
Ooh advice - injuries will usually slow a person/tire them out, it's a cliche for a reason. Or try and set the stage before the action starts, cuts down on environmental descriptions later. Either way good luck and I look forward to reading it! (Realises I've just advocated injuring Miranda - karma's going to get me!)
PS maybe don't go overboard on details? Just proof read something of mine and now realise I've given somone two left arms, stupid human body!

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@gearseffect: Mostly gameplay mechanics had me class her as a 'powerhouse'. When she's in the game, she is portrayed as a full-on Adept character, whereas Miranda is shown to be split between tech and biotics.

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Hmm, fighting scenes. One thing i am actually good at xD. i'd just suggest to put in the biggest amount of detail possible: state the movements as precisely as you can, it doesnt matter if it creates a huge paragraph, because that means it's good. For an example, check out (my fic) Silent Echoes.

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@fainmeca ah thanks for clearing that up. I know some people try and claim Liara is just as powerful a biotic as Samara, Aria, and Jack and I just don't think that's the case.

If I had to break the biotics down by skills and powers I'd thrown Samara and most Justicars in a league their own, considering all their training and conditioning which as we know has a very high death rate. I'd put Jack and Aria in or just below that level same with Morinth.

Then Wrex, Thane, Miranda

followed by Jacob, Kiadan, Liara,

okay now that I'm done rambling on about biotic skill levels, I've got a question. Lore-wise is there anything that gives us a rough time period when the Justicar Order was formed? Or is it just always left very vague like "An ancient monastic order"?

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gearseffect wrote...

@fainmeca ah thanks for clearing that up. I know some people try and claim Liara is just as powerful a biotic as Samara, Aria, and Jack and I just don't think that's the case.

If I had to break the biotics down by skills and powers I'd thrown Samara and most Justicars in a league their own, considering all their training and conditioning which as we know has a very high death rate. I'd put Jack and Aria in or just below that level same with Morinth.

Then Wrex, Thane, Miranda

followed by Jacob, Kiadan, Liara,

okay now that I'm done rambling on about biotic skill levels, I've got a question. Lore-wise is there anything that gives us a rough time period when the Justicar Order was formed? Or is it just always left very vague like "An ancient monastic order"?



I'd agree that Jack and Samara are in a class of their own.  Aria and Morinth are obviously very powerful as well (Asari commando and battle experience for the former, fighting and power gained from doing ardat Yakshi stuff for the latter). Wrex too (though he'd, IMO, be weaker than the above), if only because I'd imagine his regenerative abilities would give him a fair bit more stamina than most other biotics, and his natural toughness would be of help.

But Thane is more of a weapons based assassin, and Miranda's a jack of all trades that's more of a tactician. I'd have Liara above both of them (by a little bit), considering asari are naturally more proficient with biotics, Liara has good genes (Benezia was rather powerful, I'd imagine that Aethyta was as well, having been an asari commando like Aria), and due to her family's power would have access to high level training at a young age (likely at least 30 years of high quality biotic training).
Miri's human biology and reliance on older, safer implants would limit her potential IMO(she's a fair bit older than jack, and the techniques used to make Jack much stronger would have likely been ineffective on Miri due to her age at the time of those developments), and Thane just never seemed to me like an incredibly adept biotic (in a complete sense), but instead that he's a very proficient offensive force in using his body as a weapon, and using weaponry to make himself more efficient. He's an assassin, so in combat, I'd have him above Liara for sure, but I'm not certain he'd be ahead of her in biotic ability alone. Certainly not Jacob or Kaidan(who might be one of the most powerful human biotics, but he's too gun-shy to use his abilities).

As for the Justicar order...I can only hazard a guess that they're older than when asari had space-flight capabilities, which pegs it between 580BCE and 48000BCE(when protheans were exterminated). I'd give the older end a range closer to 42000BCE due to the time it would likely take for beliefs about Athame and co to be rendered into legend, to be solidified into a social construct like a religion, considering Asari lifespans and everything. I'd put the younger end around 8580BCE for similar reasons, that the religion would be fairly old by then, and with the advancement of society, it would make sense for the Justicars to exist a fair bit before space travel.

Bioware didn't exactly nail down the date, as you can see :) It is very much an "ancient monastic order". :\\

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I checked the codex entry about the Justicars in the mass effect wiki, and it didn't mention any age. So, I'd guess that it's just said to be really old, because I don't remember Samara saying when it was founded.
How do you guys suggest going about getting a beta?

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@ignis not sure how to get a beta

@fluffy idk about Liara she didn't seem to great with her biotics until after ME1, and even then she don't show any real powerful displays except when she's really p!ssed off. Which gives me the impression it's the equivalent of a blind rage biotics being unleashed and not really something she is able to tap into whenever for whatever reason.

I mean her most impressive displays are when she's upset and angry when the Shadow Broker upset her and she unleashed all that rage, then when Thessia fell and the Athame prothean thing was discovered and she was down with Javik.

It kinda reminds me of myself I'm not really that strong I'm more gentle and quiet and not really strong at all but if someone or something upsets enough I can be like a hulk. So I guess I've always seen Liara that way.

Anyway I also looked for the time period when the Justicars were formed in the codex and ME wiki but didn't find anything and I wanted to make sure it wasn't said someplace and I just missed it. Which I didn't, and considering that it's so vague like that without any real time table, it works out perfectly for what I've got planned.

Opps I've said too much

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Keep in mind that video game balance can't have some biotics a lot more powerful, and that video games have to simplify a lot -- HP, shields block everything, cooldown but no exhaustion, et ceteara... Think about it, were Samara and Jack able to bring their cutscene biotics into battle, they would be optimal choices. Same with MP asari since they look kind of matriarchal.

Weren't it for that, I'd assume any 60-70 year old asari combatant, focusing on biotics, would beat any human biotic -- since they're at most in their thirties --, excepting experiments like Jack.

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Ignis Mors wrote...

I checked the codex entry about the Justicars in the mass effect wiki, and it didn't mention any age. So, I'd guess that it's just said to be really old, because I don't remember Samara saying when it was founded.
How do you guys suggest going about getting a beta?



Yeah thats tough, Ive had a few come and go so I do not have very high opinions of betas ATM. I mean yes they are doing what they are doing fo free,  and I shouldnt complain, but to have them just stop and/or disappear gets annoying after awhile.

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Passed the mark!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :lol: Image IPB

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Back again, with another chapter and a massive cliffhanger.

Chapter 17: Ashes, Ashes

Oh, and happy new year everyone! Let us all survive yet another 10 more apocalypses that may or may not take place in 2013!