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#6026
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Ignis Mors wrote...

Well, in the Mass Effect universe they have medigel. And, at least how I see how medigel is applied on wounds for people who are wearing armor is that the armor has medigel dispensers that will close up serious wounds. So I'd have it say that he pulled it out, and then medigel was applied by the dispeners, causing the wound to be closed until he could get proper medical attention. :)


Sounds logical!  Thank you for your input! B)

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enayasoul wrote...

Here's a question I've been wrestling with...

Do you worry about being a credible writer? Do you stick to what is true in real life situations or do you do whatever... For example, in my newest chapter I'm working on I had written a fight scene where my maleShep get's stab in the thigh with a knife... and after doing a bit of research... It's been said by medical staff and so forth that you'd never remove a knife because they can bleed out and die if the knife hits an artery or something.

So, what I've come up with is that it might not be that deep of a stab wound because I've put him in a situation where the building is on fire and staying put is not an option. So removing it and having him struggle to get out...

I've read on some writer forums that a lot of movies have the characters removing the knives if they get stabbed anywhere really. Even in comedy... Jim Carrey in Pet Detective movies he jokes about the knives being in the bone then removes them. I know that in that scene it's suppose to be funny.

How true to real life should writers be when writing these kinds of stories?


If everyone stuck to true to life there would be no fantasy or science fiction. People are willing to accept some thing for entertainment value as long as you dont have something too far fetched..

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Drussius wrote...

Gisle-Aune wrote...

You mean, without the Relay?

The Galaxy's radius is 50k-60k light years. With my judge of distance and a galaxy map, it's 5k-6k light years between the two clusters in question. Say with 12 LY/day, it's ~400 days. However, due to the need for discharging the eezo core, it'll not be a straight path ad they'll need to pass a suitable discharge site every 50 hour, those are in a system. Two years would be a reasonable assumption if they're careful.

If it's post ME3 and they'd adapted salvaged Reaper tech, you could say that they've found a way to get increased speed and duration it can go without needing to discharge the eezo-core.

You don't need to be sorry for mixing up terms. I asked to help clear up misunderstanding.

Hope this helps. :)

Edit: 12 LY/day speed assumption is from one of Ashley's dialogue I believe, though I can't find the exact one.


This is all pretty accurate suggestions. However, one of the codex entries on Reapers says that they can travel over 30 light years in a day at FTL, and adds that this is approximately twice the speed of Alliance vessels. So I've always found 15 light years/day an easy and lore-friendly estimate.

This was actually something I looked up for my own reasons, and did a small amount of the math on it. With the diameter of the galaxy being estimated at 100,000 to 120,000 light years, I used 110,000 as a happy medium. At 15 light years/day, without needing to stop for fuel or drive discharge, which would naturally add delays, the galaxy could be crossed from one end to the other in 7,333.33333 days. Which boils down to just over 20 years. But using that as a reference, you may be able to make a reasonable guess by eyeballing it.


Cheers Druss, more handy fuel for the fire.

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enayasoul wrote...

Here's a question I've been wrestling with...

Do you worry about being a credible writer? Do you stick to what is true in real life situations or do you do whatever... For example, in my newest chapter I'm working on I had written a fight scene where my maleShep get's stab in the thigh with a knife... and after doing a bit of research... It's been said by medical staff and so forth that you'd never remove a knife because they can bleed out and die if the knife hits an artery or something.

So, what I've come up with is that it might not be that deep of a stab wound because I've put him in a situation where the building is on fire and staying put is not an option. So removing it and having him struggle to get out...

I've read on some writer forums that a lot of movies have the characters removing the knives if they get stabbed anywhere really. Even in comedy... Jim Carrey in Pet Detective movies he jokes about the knives being in the bone then removes them. I know that in that scene it's suppose to be funny.

How true to real life should writers be when writing these kinds of stories?


Personally, I try to stay 'real world' as much as I can, for crediblity.  It's bad enough avoiding being called on the lore, never mind real world stuff.  Hehe.

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MrStoob wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

Here's a question I've been wrestling with...

Do you worry about being a credible writer? Do you stick to what is true in real life situations or do you do whatever... For example, in my newest chapter I'm working on I had written a fight scene where my maleShep get's stab in the thigh with a knife... and after doing a bit of research... It's been said by medical staff and so forth that you'd never remove a knife because they can bleed out and die if the knife hits an artery or something.

So, what I've come up with is that it might not be that deep of a stab wound because I've put him in a situation where the building is on fire and staying put is not an option. So removing it and having him struggle to get out...

I've read on some writer forums that a lot of movies have the characters removing the knives if they get stabbed anywhere really. Even in comedy... Jim Carrey in Pet Detective movies he jokes about the knives being in the bone then removes them. I know that in that scene it's suppose to be funny.

How true to real life should writers be when writing these kinds of stories?


Personally, I try to stay 'real world' as much as I can, for crediblity.  It's bad enough avoiding being called on the lore, never mind real world stuff.  Hehe.

I have to say that I am the opposite of you on this one Stoob. I try to stay kindof true to the real world, but if it isn't I just say future technology has made things different.

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enayasoul wrote...

Here's a question I've been wrestling with...

Do you worry about being a credible writer? Do you stick to what is true in real life situations or do you do whatever... For example, in my newest chapter I'm working on I had written a fight scene where my maleShep get's stab in the thigh with a knife... and after doing a bit of research... It's been said by medical staff and so forth that you'd never remove a knife because they can bleed out and die if the knife hits an artery or something.

So, what I've come up with is that it might not be that deep of a stab wound because I've put him in a situation where the building is on fire and staying put is not an option. So removing it and having him struggle to get out...

How true to real life should writers be when writing these kinds of stories?

I'm sure you've heard of the 'suspension of disbelief'; it's all about how far you can push that. Every writer takes liberties with certain things, some just like to acknowledge the reality a little more. Comedy can stretch things a lot further, depending on how outlandish it is in the first place.

In your case, as has been stated, there would most likely be medi-gel on-hand or in the suit. For basic purposes, I would imagine it working like a slightly more advanced version of the med-foam (actually unnamed in the script) used on Zoe in Serenity; it patches the wound so it's not immediately life-threatening but the injury will still be a little debilitating. Please tell me you've seen that film (every BSN member must have).

Though, I do recall reading that the femoral artery being punctured is one of the most lethal wounds. I believe it's more accessible via the inner thigh, so it might be worth considering the blow striking the outside of the leg. Would mean the wound is still serious, but with the outlook being a little more sanguine ("Plus, point of interest, it also means 'bloody'"). Honestly, I doubt anyone would be too bothered by the reality though.

I'd actually be more interested to know why the building is burning, as the architecture in the ME universe never seems that flammable. :P

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Drussius wrote...
This is all pretty accurate suggestions. However, one of the codex entries on Reapers says that they can travel over 30 light years in a day at FTL, and adds that this is approximately twice the speed of Alliance vessels. So I've always found 15 light years/day an easy and lore-friendly estimate.

This was actually something I looked up for my own reasons, and did a small amount of the math on it. With the diameter of the galaxy being estimated at 100,000 to 120,000 light years, I used 110,000 as a happy medium. At 15 light years/day, without needing to stop for fuel or drive discharge, which would naturally add delays, the galaxy could be crossed from one end to the other in 7,333.33333 days. Which boils down to just over 20 years. But using that as a reference, you may be able to make a reasonable guess by eyeballing it.

Just popping in to say I've run the same calculation, and came up with very similar figures.  As a side note, the game almost makes it feel like transport between systems within a cluster is really fast- in reality this is days to weeks of travel time aboard ship without much else to do.  So understandably the game speeds it up.  But it adds a lot of hidden bulk to the timelines of each game.

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Lilivati wrote...

Drussius wrote...
This is all pretty accurate suggestions. However, one of the codex entries on Reapers says that they can travel over 30 light years in a day at FTL, and adds that this is approximately twice the speed of Alliance vessels. So I've always found 15 light years/day an easy and lore-friendly estimate.

This was actually something I looked up for my own reasons, and did a small amount of the math on it. With the diameter of the galaxy being estimated at 100,000 to 120,000 light years, I used 110,000 as a happy medium. At 15 light years/day, without needing to stop for fuel or drive discharge, which would naturally add delays, the galaxy could be crossed from one end to the other in 7,333.33333 days. Which boils down to just over 20 years. But using that as a reference, you may be able to make a reasonable guess by eyeballing it.

Just popping in to say I've run the same calculation, and came up with very similar figures.  As a side note, the game almost makes it feel like transport between systems within a cluster is really fast- in reality this is days to weeks of travel time aboard ship without much else to do.  So understandably the game speeds it up.  But it adds a lot of hidden bulk to the timelines of each game.


And they're the bits that are fun to fill!  To fill with :wub: and :crying:  hehe.

Edit: oh, and this amused me.  I got a pm on FF.net basically asking 'how does that really important plot line you've created pan out?'  Where's the sense of adventure eh?

Modifié par MrStoob, 20 janvier 2013 - 06:54 .


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@hot_heart: Yes, I've seen serenity. :) I agree that I may change the location to outer or less deep or slice because of how he get's stabbed. The criminal has a less chance of really doing anything that harmful. :) maybe 1/4-1/2 deep. *scratches head*

Well, I didn't want to spoil it but the building isn't litterely on fire just a part and well **** happens. fire spreads. :) I have work a bit more on the escape plan with more drawings to make it believable. :)

@Mr. Stoob. Yeah, I have a reader that wants me to get to the good stuff already. :) Patience. :) It's coming... They have to jump through a few more hoops first. heh. I purposly delayed it from what I had originally. I guess that shows but I think it works better this way.

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enayasoul wrote...

@hot_heart: Yes, I've seen serenity. :) I agree that I may change the location to outer or less deep or slice because of how he get's stabbed. The criminal has a less chance of really doing anything that harmful. :) maybe 1/4-1/2 deep. *scratches head*

Well, I didn't want to spoil it but the building isn't litterely on fire just a part and well **** happens. fire spreads. :) I have work a bit more on the escape plan with more drawings to make it believable. :)

@Mr. Stoob. Yeah, I have a reader that wants me to get to the good stuff already. :) Patients. :) It's coming... They have to jump through a few more hoops first. heh. I purposly delayed it from what I had originally. I guess that shows but I think it works better this way.


Like the dance of the seven veils, you don't just show everything in one go.  It'd spoil the show!  hehe.

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No-one's here? Phew! I'll just leave my question and sneak back out. Image IPB
Q: Can anyone point me to a good source for Vega dialogue (don't have 3 installed at the moment) eg extracted scripts/quotes/youtube compliations/good fan-fic? Saddled myself with just him & Shep for a couple of chapters, but I am finding it a bit tricky (bloody difficult) to write him. Have resorted to dropping in a couple of Spanish words here and there but don't think it's really working. Image IPB (It will probably turn out it's actually Portuguese/some other language he's speaking in game! Image IPB)

Anyway sorry to keep asking for help, really wish I could provide an answer or two for once. But: (A) You folks all have a better understanding of the Lore. (B) No-one should abuse the English language as badly as I do.
(D) Please refer to number (B). © All you folk are just too brilliant amazing skilful awesome! Image IPB

Point C is a genuine expression of awe and not just a bit of blatant ego stroking in the hope it will predispose someone to provide help!

PS I really should stop these messages a paragraph earlier!

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Fatiguesdualism wrote...

No-one's here? Phew! I'll just leave my question and sneak back out. Image IPB
Q: Can anyone point me to a good source for Vega dialogue (don't have 3 installed at the moment) eg extracted scripts/quotes/youtube compliations/good fan-fic? Saddled myself with just him & Shep for a couple of chapters, but I am finding it a bit tricky (bloody difficult) to write him. Have resorted to dropping in a couple of Spanish words here and there but don't think it's really working. Image IPB (It will probably turn out it's actually Portuguese/some other language he's speaking in game! Image IPB)

Anyway sorry to keep asking for help, really wish I could provide an answer or two for once. But: (A) You folks all have a better understanding of the Lore. (B) No-one should abuse the English language as badly as I do.
(D) Please refer to number (B). © All you folk are just too brilliant amazing skilful awesome! Image IPB

Point C is a genuine expression of awe and not just a bit of blatant ego stroking in the hope it will predispose someone to provide help!

PS I really should stop these messages a paragraph earlier!


lol on the 'PS' I feel the same about myself sometimes, but usually it's one post too many. :lol:

I always see James as playful and naughty but good natured.  Dunno if that's any help.  One good FF that played him well (in my eyes at least) was 'The Peanut Butter Principle', worth a read if nothing else.

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I don't think there's any collection of Vega dialogue. Though, he does seem informed by the 'image' of Freddie Prinze Jr. in some way. He's got a sort of boyish (though, not immature) outlook and, of course, his Puerto Rican background (so you're right about Spanish instead of Portuguese).

I would just write him as someone who is looking to learn from Shepard, but can get a bit 'enthusiastic' in battle.

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As for my own writing, I'll open it up for a rather large topic, to which many people could probably contribute. For those who haven't been following the story, I'm going to be including some of Shepard's squadmates, who will appear after Miranda leaves the control tower in Sanctuary (i.e. exiting with Oriana, after having thrown her father out the window). Some of this may include interactions or just some observations; the substance of which I am still deciding.

I was looking from input from you guys as to how you think certain ME3 squadmates would feel about her or what they might say to her at that time (if they felt inclined to speak), since some of you probably know the other characters a bit better than I do. I mean, you already get a sense of how Tali feels during her drunkenness. :P

Modifié par hot_heart, 22 janvier 2013 - 11:22 .


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hot_heart wrote...

As for my own writing, I'll open it up for a rather large topic, to which many people could probably contribute. For those who haven't been following the story, I'm going to be including some of Shepard's squadmates, who will appear after Miranda leaves the control tower in Sanctuary (i.e. exiting with Oriana, after having thrown her father out the window). Some of this may include interactions or just some observations; the substance of which I am still deciding.

I was looking from input from you guys as to how you think certain ME3 squadmates would feel about her at that time.


Dunno if she survived in your fic but Ashley would probably have the most issues, knowing her, with veiled accusations or comments about dark pasts.  She had enough of a hard time accepting Shepard's association and that was her commanding officer/friend.

IMHO, others either already know her or would be indifferent, Tali's impression of her already covered in-game.

2 cents, thrown in.

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I'd kept it vague about which of the two survived Virmire, but a few readers seemed to want some sort of confrontation with Ashley. Though, I think some wanted it romance-related, while I'm not too keen on reducing the characters to that.

Regarding some other reader suggestions, I know Garrus wasn't too fond of her (at least, judging by the pre-SM comment about her). And some people wanted to see Vega, so I guess he's got to come up with a nickname (and not my joke suggestion of 'Rear Admiral'). :P

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hot_heart wrote...

I'd kept it vague about which of the two survived Virmire, but a few readers seemed to want some sort of confrontation with Ashley. Though, I think some wanted it romance-related, while I'm not too keen on reducing the characters to that.

Regarding some other reader suggestions, I know Garrus wasn't too fond of her (at least, judging by the pre-SM comment about her). And some people wanted to see Vega, so I guess he's got to come up with a nickname (and not my joke suggestion of 'Rear Admiral'). :P


lol Rear Admiral ^^

My 'confrontation' with Ashley/Shep over Cerberus went down quite well.  It seems some were hoping for a true stand-off between them over all that.  Yea, hadn't thought about the SM pep-talk, some dividing lines certainly appeared during that.

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Oh... and I'm trying this for a larf and to hopefully drum up some interest. Any support would be greatly appreciated:

https://twitter.com/CombinedFNet

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@ MrStoob: Thanks I'll check it out, anyone with anymore suggestions let me know. I'm trying to pick up a sense of word choices/patterns/rhythms/structures. (The word is style, seriously why was that so hard to think of? Used three sodding words, all longer than the one I needed! Image IPB)

@lillitheris: Thanks again. Kinda heartening to know you're still here even if in a spooky, but good, Dark Knight fashion.

@hot_heart: I'm not providing a suggestion, but I would be tempted to go Ash Kaiden. If only because I just think an Ash/Miranda confrontation can only be exactly that a confrontation. Either VS could have a lot of reasons to dislike her (top of my head: romance, family, biotic exploitation, ethics of Cerberus) but whereas Kaiden often comes across as more balanced/placid/reasonable, Ashley often seems more irrational/emotional/forthright. Basically Ash is more likely to try putting Miri on the defensive there and then, I have difficulty seeing Kaiden deciding the same. However after all that I realise my view of Ash/Miri could be really similar to the whole Jack/Miri relationship, which we've had already in game. Bah this is why I can't give advice!

PS: That is way I should also stop waffling a paragraph sooner!

PPS: Regarding the PS, I have that 'sinking feeling' that by including a PS I then needed to finish two paragraphs sooner. Otherwise am I not only removing the post script paragraph. Meaning I now need to finish three paragraphs earlier! !Image IPB ! AAUGH! I need to go not just because my brain hurts but I really need to read some Vega dialogue. Also I probably should not have used the word 'just' in that last sentence.Image IPB

Modifié par Fatiguesdualism, 22 janvier 2013 - 03:06 .


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Fatiguesdualism wrote...

@ MrStoob: Thanks I'll check it out, anyone with anymore suggestions let me know. I'm trying to pick up a sense of word choices/patterns/rhythms/structures. (The word is style, seriously why was that so hard to think of? Used three sodding words, all longer than the one I needed! Image IPB)

@lillitheris: Thanks again. Kinda heartening to know you're still here even if in a spooky, but good, Dark Knight fashion.

@hot_heart: I'm not providing a suggestion, but I would be tempted to go Ash Kaiden. If only because I just think an Ash/Miranda confrontation can only be exactly that a confrontation. Either VS could have a lot of reasons to dislike her (top of my head: romance, family, biotic exploitation, ethics of Cerberus) but whereas Kaiden often comes across as more balanced/placid/reasonable, Ashley often seems more irrational/emotional/forthright. Basically Ash is more likely to try putting Miri on the defensive there and then, I have difficulty seeing Kaiden deciding the same. However after all that I realise my view of Ash/Miri could be really similar to the whole Jack/Miri relationship, which we've had already in game. Bah this is why I can't give advice!

PS: That is way I should also stop waffling a paragraph sooner!

PPS: Regarding the PS, I have that 'sinking feeling' that by including a PS I then needed to finish two paragraphs sooner. Otherwise am I not only removing the post script paragraph. Meaning I now need to finish three paragraphs earlier! !Image IPB ! AAUGH! I need to go not just because my brain hurts but I also really go read some Vega dialogue. Also I probably should not have used the word 'just' in that last sentence.Image IPB


Brain spew!  ^_^

Large smile on your lill assessment, who I shall now dub 'The Literary Lurker'.  Haven't picked out a superhero costume for her yet though... :D

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Yay, snagged a couple of followers on me twitter thing. ^^

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Fatiguesdualism wrote...

@ MrStoob: Thanks I'll check it out, anyone with anymore suggestions let me know. I'm trying to pick up a sense of word choices/patterns/rhythms/structures. (The word is style, seriously why was that so hard to think of? Used three sodding words, all longer than the one I needed! Image IPB)

@lillitheris: Thanks again. Kinda heartening to know you're still here even if in a spooky, but good, Dark Knight fashion.

@hot_heart: I'm not providing a suggestion, but I would be tempted to go Ash Kaiden. If only because I just think an Ash/Miranda confrontation can only be exactly that a confrontation. Either VS could have a lot of reasons to dislike her (top of my head: romance, family, biotic exploitation, ethics of Cerberus) but whereas Kaiden often comes across as more balanced/placid/reasonable, Ashley often seems more irrational/emotional/forthright. Basically Ash is more likely to try putting Miri on the defensive there and then, I have difficulty seeing Kaiden deciding the same. However after all that I realise my view of Ash/Miri could be really similar to the whole Jack/Miri relationship, which we've had already in game. Bah this is why I can't give advice!

PS: That is way I should also stop waffling a paragraph sooner!

PPS: Regarding the PS, I have that 'sinking feeling' that by including a PS I then needed to finish two paragraphs sooner. Otherwise am I not only removing the post script paragraph. Meaning I now need to finish three paragraphs earlier! !Image IPB ! AAUGH! I need to go not just because my brain hurts but I really need to read some Vega dialogue. Also I probably should not have used the word 'just' in that last sentence.Image IPB



I've place Vega in my lastest fc, really by accident but he ended up being a main character and I find that he is actually a lot of fun to write for, I find he's just like that boyish man  iwth a big heart but is very talented at what he does.

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I had a fun chapt where the Normandy is transporting Aethyta's asari commandos and James is trying to do a gun show to impress the 'blue beauties', FemShep does her best to deflate his bravado. That was fun to write.

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Oh, it seems it's me again...
Someone reviewed 'Can't help but think of Starcraft's Kerrigan' on my fic, should I be happy? I don't know what that is. :blink:

Edit: I looked her up and well... I still don't know if it's a good thing or not.  Any wiser, younger people who can give me the 'gen'?  Tsk... to be old and out of touch,  Last year, I even had to look up 'arrow to the knee' coz I had no idea what it was.  Then it intrigued me, I bought the game, and have about 1500 hours clocked ha!  But I digress.

PS  It must be spreading.  Get away with your diseases! :devil:

PPS  The reviewer was anon, or I'd ask them myself.   :wizard: *puff of smoke*

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Uh, Kerrigan was... a good, nice infiltrator. Then she was captured by the zerg and started to be a nasty, big bad girl.
I'm saying this as someone who's played Starcraft 1 extensively, and Starcraft 2 a time or two through the campaign. There's honestly not a heck of a lot about the character. Blizzard aren't known for memorable characters outside of their visual design and one-liners.

So i have no clue what that's supposed to mean. I haven't been able to get around to your fic, I've been a bit busy and have some writing to focus on first.