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#6101
MrStoob

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Lilivati wrote...

jayred vas normandy wrote...

I'm writing a scene that takes place during a space battle. Just wondering about the use of ftl jumps. I want to have a ship make a short jump from one point in the system to another point within the same system, like a micro jump in starwars. I don't think there's any reason I can't do this but I wantedto get some oppinions on it.


While I agree with everything Obsidian Gryphon said,  it's worth noting shuttles do occasionally "jump" in game, most notably when leaving the Lazarus Project station at the beginning of ME2.

On another note- thanks Drussius.  I think I just needed to hear someone say it outside my own head.  You're very right.


Indeed.  It's certainly nice to hear the words that someone does appreciate the work or points out worthy issues/errors/suggestions, but knowing that people are coming for a look is still worth a lot.

Following on from a recent post I made: I've posted my space magic chapters and now await the opinion of the readers.  Wish me luck. :?

Edit: Bah.  My email says 2 further reviews but they still haven't updated on FF.net.  So slow to update that site sometimes...

and I seem to be top post a lot recently.  :blink:

Modifié par MrStoob, 28 janvier 2013 - 06:58 .


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go to moderate reviews, sometimes they are hiding there

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Spiritwolf1 wrote...

go to moderate reviews, sometimes they are hiding there


No it was me being dumb lol.  It was the 'new chapter' mails, d'oh. :blink:

Must turn that off... but thanks for the heads up for when it does sometimes appear there are new reviews but they are not displaying.

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Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Lilivati wrote...

 it's worth noting shuttles do occasionally "jump" in game, most notably when leaving the Lazarus Project station at the beginning of ME2.


I think that's not within the system, they went FTL. The actual journey wasn't really shown so I can't really say they didn't simply FTL to a nearby system or made a few hops through a few systems to reach the base.


Thanks for the input. I really like the way the scene plays out with the micro jump, so i think so long as i don't find anything saying that its not possible i'm going to run with it for now.

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Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Lilivati wrote...

 it's worth noting shuttles do occasionally "jump" in game, most notably when leaving the Lazarus Project station at the beginning of ME2.


I think that's not within the system, they went FTL. The actual journey wasn't really shown so I can't really say they didn't simply FTL to a nearby system or made a few hops through a few systems to reach the base.

Well, it's a small shuttle.  Traveling to another system would take days at a minimum even at FTL speeds, so I always assumed it was some other kind of rapid travel only used in emergency situations for whatever reason.  And building two huge space stations right next door to each other seems a little odd.  But your interpretation is definitely a valid one. :)

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Lilivati wrote...

Well, it's a small shuttle.  Traveling to another system would take days at a minimum even at FTL speeds, so I always assumed it was some other kind of rapid travel only used in emergency situations for whatever reason.  And building two huge space stations right next door to each other seems a little odd.  But your interpretation is definitely a valid one. :)


I don't think the secret lab Shep was on was as big as the one they brought her/him to. TIM would have had laid in contingency plans should the place be discovered so it had to be small.

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Just a bump for the sake of keeping us on page one. This is just one of those days. I should be writing. I have nothing else pressing to do. And I'm just not in the mood. I hate days like this.

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Daft question (yes another one!) has anyone ever seen/devised an explantation for the muzzle flash of weapons in ME? I mean there's no propellant, or combustion happening in barrel, the bullet is accelerated by magnetic coils (sure I read that in codex) so what's causing the flash?
I am only asking because I was thinking of having someone killed by a point-blank/contact shot (in story I hasten to add!Image IPB) then realised I had earlier stated they had shields. So I was thinking either use A) the emitters couldn't react fast enough at such close range or B) the actual flash itself could disrupt someone's shielding (EM/techno-babble interference).

I'm must be improving at this, I just managed a whole post without an excessively waffling, superflous paragraph, or a post-script note!Image IPB

PS:
NUTS! Image IPB

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I can't help you with the muzzle flashes.

As for kinetic barriers. If the muzzle of the weapon is in contact with the targe's armor or skin, I doubt the kinetic barrier sensors and emitters would have a chance. I'd think they can defect bullets that are a few inches away, however. One or two inches seems kinda iffy, I'd stake that on quality of kinetic barrier equipment's sensors, and how close the nearest sensor is.

This is just speculations, however. No canon exists on the matter.

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Fatiguesdualism wrote...

Daft question (yes another one!) has anyone ever seen/devised an explantation for the muzzle flash of weapons in ME? I mean there's no propellant, or combustion happening in barrel, the bullet is accelerated by magnetic coils (sure I read that in codex) so what's causing the flash?
I am only asking because I was thinking of having someone killed by a point-blank/contact shot (in story I hasten to add!Image IPB) then realised I had earlier stated they had shields. So I was thinking either use A) the emitters couldn't react fast enough at such close range or B) the actual flash itself could disrupt someone's shielding (EM/techno-babble interference).

I'm must be improving at this, I just managed a whole post without an excessively waffling, superflous paragraph, or a post-script note!Image IPB

PS:
NUTS! Image IPB


To quote the meerkat: Simples.

Guns in the ME universe use Mass Effect to accelerate their bullets. The flash can be a by-product of these ME fields (like a biotic glow, but so small and focused that its just a quick flash). Me fields glow blue-white, so there's your tiny flash out of the barrel with every bullet.

As for the barriers, I agree with Gisle-Aune. Too close, and no amount of barriers will save you. Look at the shield-recharge flicker around Shepard in ME2 (not sure if its present in the other games). That barrier is a good foot or so away from his body, and not human shaped at all, but rather just a bubble. If you can get your attacker into within arms reach, no problem.

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Tsk tsk, This went to second page. For want of something to say, I'll put an excerpt from my own fanfic here. :P

"How long have the TI been given free rein of the cities?" Aethyta bit off each word with clenched teeth, the desire to commit violence was strong. A deathly silence filled the forum. "I do not believe for one instance that the information you gained flow as swift and clear as water," she drove on, giving Trisio no opportunity to speak. "As she gave, the TI took. That is how they have the local beacons for their transports, isn't it? They've been making supply runs under our very noses. You let them in here, you let them in to study the strengths and weakness of our fortifications, our troop deployments. You let them in here so they could study the layout of the cities and make plans for their invasion."

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 01 février 2013 - 05:13 .


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Fatiguesdualism wrote...

Daft question (yes another one!) has anyone ever seen/devised an explantation for the muzzle flash of weapons in ME? I mean there's no propellant, or combustion happening in barrel, the bullet is accelerated by magnetic coils (sure I read that in codex) so what's causing the flash?
I am only asking because I was thinking of having someone killed by a point-blank/contact shot (in story I hasten to add!Image IPB) then realised I had earlier stated they had shields. So I was thinking either use A) the emitters couldn't react fast enough at such close range or B) the actual flash itself could disrupt someone's shielding (EM/techno-babble interference).

I'm must be improving at this, I just managed a whole post without an excessively waffling, superflous paragraph, or a post-script note!Image IPB

PS:
NUTS! Image IPB


Just to add to what has already been said, in-game barriers are never an issue for bullet to the head moments (e.g. Saren/Nihlus)  so yea, nothing solid to be had from there, except our old friend space magic.

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Cutscene avengers and predators have a 100% shield bypass, and are only issued to villains and heroes, sadly. :P

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^ Don't forget that all weapons can magically turn into one of the above two if you happen to be pulled into a cutscene. It was always odd to see my Widow turn into an Avenger just because I was fleeing to a shuttle or something...

And bump.

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Man, writing makes me feel like a manic depressive lol. I go for several days pumping out chapters (did about 10 chapts for different projects in just a few days) then... nothing... no clue where the stories are going, no inspiration, no desire to write, and generally, meh!

That is all.

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Thanks for the comments folks! Too much exposure to 'Trek at has made me adverse to 'Space Magic'Image IPB but a real sucker for 'Techno-Babble' Image IPB. There is a difference, honest Image IPB, maybeImage IPB
Just to share, whilst I was trying to think up a bit of techno-babble an idea lodged in my noggin. Can anyone else see similarities between Cerberus and The Muppet Show? I mean:
TIM=Kermit (the guy with the plan and trying to keep the craziness in check, but hiring clowns)
Miranda=Miss Piggy (the prima-donna)
Kai Leng=Fozzie Bear (although Fozzie is much cooler than KL, both do suck at their day jobs though)
Cerberus Scientists=Honeydew & Beaker (H&B are generally more succesful however)
Shepard=The captain from Pigs in Space/The Great Gonzo/Animal (paragon/neutral/renegade)

Don't know why that idea crept into my head whilst trying to think up a reason for why ME guns kill, it just did. I may need helpImage IPB

PS I really have to stop procrastinating and get back to writing, and the whole KL thing is obviously a personal preference. Also I should stop derailing this thread.  I am starting to think people are getting fed up with me waffling plus you never know if The Literary LurkerImage IPB is in the shadows, watching.

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Fatiguesdualism wrote...

Thanks for the comments folks! Too much exposure to 'Trek at has made me adverse to 'Space Magic'Image IPB but a real sucker for 'Techno-Babble' Image IPB. There is a difference, honest Image IPB, maybeImage IPB
Just to share, whilst I was trying to think up a bit of techno-babble an idea lodged in my noggin. Can anyone else see similarities between Cerberus and The Muppet Show? I mean:
TIM=Kermit (the guy with the plan and trying to keep the craziness in check, but hiring clowns)
Miranda=Miss Piggy (the prima-donna)
Kai Leng=Fozzie Bear (although Fozzie is much cooler than KL, both do suck at their day jobs though)
Cerberus Scientists=Honeydew & Beaker (H&B are generally more succesful however)
Shepard=The captain from Pigs in Space/The Great Gonzo/Animal (paragon/neutral/renegade)

Don't know why that idea crept into my head whilst trying to think up a reason for why ME guns kill, it just did. I may need helpImage IPB

PS I really have to stop procrastinating and get back to writing, and the whole KL thing is obviously a personal preference. Also I should stop derailing this thread.  I am starting to think people are getting fed up with me waffling plus you never know if The Literary LurkerImage IPB is in the shadows, watching.


Indeed, techno-babble takes existing concepts to the nth degree, whereas space magic is pulled out the ass. :lol:

Modifié par MrStoob, 05 février 2013 - 12:54 .


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Inspiration popped in my brain this morning. *jumps up and down* hah! :) I know what I will be doing with Orianna (Miranda's sister... yes I know, I spelled it differently... we have no clue what she's like so this is my take on the girl.) I think what I came up will work brilliantly and keep Miranda happy because it's her idea and something she might allow/do.^_^

Okay, back to writing the next part. Debating whether to have Ashley meet Shep in person or overhearing Anderson talk to Shep via computer terminal. Decisions...

Also, is it widely publicized when the Normandy docks on the Citadel? This takes place some time after Shepard takes care of the collectors/collector base. Hmm...Could they go after him?

Arrival in my story hasn't happened yet... (possibly in a couple of months)

Modifié par enayasoul, 05 février 2013 - 08:46 .


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enayasoul wrote...

Inspiration popped in my brain this morning. *jumps up and down* hah! :) I know what I will be doing with Orianna (Miranda's sister... yes I know, I spelled it differently... we have no clue what she's like so this is my take on the girl.) I think what I came up will work brilliantly and keep Miranda happy because it's her idea and something she might allow/do.^_^

Okay, back to writing the next part. Debating whether to have Ashley meet Shep in person or overhearing Anderson talk to Shep via computer terminal. Decisions...

Also, is it widely publicized when the Normandy docks on the Citadel? This takes place some time after Shepard takes care of the collectors/collector base. Hmm...Could they go after him?

Arrival in my story hasn't happened yet... (possibly in a couple of months)


Some fun areas of the 'missing' story arcs to play with there.  Fill your boots I'd say.  And thanks for clarifying your Ori spelling.  I hate it when I spell a name wrong (I never play with subtitles) and have to pick through each chapter to correct it, even though no reviewer mentions it hehe.  CDO.
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I'm after some feedback. I'm at the Sanctuary confrontation with Miranda, Oriana and Henry and a little unsure on some of the characterisation.

I've had one person read a very rough draft and comment on how they feel Miranda is viewing Oriana too much like an innocent, trying to refrain from violence around her and using force to stop her shooting Henry. Though it's more the latter point that sticks out.

That overprotectiveness is something I'd planned to bring up in the chapter afterwards, but I must admit that it's partly inspired by another Yvonne Strahovski character, Sarah, with the not wanting Chuck to become a spy and the shooting people, etc.

Was wondering if you guys felt that approach was a little off. I know Miranda can be pretty ruthless, but I always figured she would act differently in front of Oriana if she could help it (which obviously changes afterwards, when Henry puts a gun to Oriana's head). It's very possible I'm going a little overboard, considering the situation.

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hot_heart wrote...

I'm after some feedback. I'm at the Sanctuary confrontation with Miranda, Oriana and Henry and a little unsure on some of the characterisation.

I've had one person read a very rough draft and comment on how they feel Miranda is viewing Oriana too much like an innocent, trying to refrain from violence around her and using force to stop her shooting Henry. Though it's more the latter point that sticks out.

That overprotectiveness is something I'd planned to bring up in the chapter afterwards, but I must admit that it's partly inspired by another Yvonne Strahovski character, Sarah, with the not wanting Chuck to become a spy and the shooting people, etc.

Was wondering if you guys felt that approach was a little off. I know Miranda can be pretty ruthless, but I always figured she would act differently in front of Oriana if she could help it (which obviously changes afterwards, when Henry puts a gun to Oriana's head). It's very possible I'm going a little overboard, considering the situation.


It's a fair interpretation I'd say.  Miranda always sought to protect Oriana from the harsher realities of her life, even needing a push from Shep to even speak with her.  Doesn't seem out of place to me, particularly if like you suggest there, Miri's aggression rises when Henry threatens her sister.

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hot_heart wrote...

I'm after some feedback. I'm at the Sanctuary confrontation with Miranda, Oriana and Henry and a little unsure on some of the characterisation.

I've had one person read a very rough draft and comment on how they feel Miranda is viewing Oriana too much like an innocent, trying to refrain from violence around her and using force to stop her shooting Henry. Though it's more the latter point that sticks out.

That overprotectiveness is something I'd planned to bring up in the chapter afterwards, but I must admit that it's partly inspired by another Yvonne Strahovski character, Sarah, with the not wanting Chuck to become a spy and the shooting people, etc.

Was wondering if you guys felt that approach was a little off. I know Miranda can be pretty ruthless, but I always figured she would act differently in front of Oriana if she could help it (which obviously changes afterwards, when Henry puts a gun to Oriana's head). It's very possible I'm going a little overboard, considering the situation.


It sounds about right. Miranda would probably be a little different around Oriana. Miranda even expressed that she doesn't want Oriana exposed to what happened at Sanctuary.  "I wish she didn't have to see all this."  Miranda is pretty much wanting to protect Oriana from the bad stuff in life. 

Miranda probably want's Oriana NOT to follow in her footsteps.  Not to be violent, I suppose. Oriana can be better than her, lead a better life than Miranda has lead...?   In my fic, Ori has never seen Miranda do anything bad...  but Ori finds out she was with Cerberus, the terrorist organization.  It was tense between them for a little bit but things worked themselves out.

I think, Oriana would understand Miranda if she knew what Henry was really like up close and in person. I was looking at some you tube videos of Oriana only at Sanctuary... and Oriana says he was... then it was cut off but I get the impression she knew her father wasn't a very good man by the research he undertook... Just my assumption on that part.
Have you come up with an idea/reason why Oriana tries to shoot Henry?  <_<
As always, I'm looking forward to what you've written. ;)

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Thanks, guys! That's very reassuring. I might tone down some of the word choices anyway.

p.s. I think I have a substantial enough reason for Oriana to 'snap', but might add a little bit more. Trying not to overload the opening part of the chapter with too much stuff in case it harms the flow.

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Typical. I get stuck trying to fix one crucial section of dialogue and when I do find a decent (and possibly better) solution, it's when I should be thinking about heading to bed...

Oh, well, at least it made me realise that I hadn't accounted for that stupid "Kai Leng didn't finish the job" line, so I've made sure Henry's a little more aware of what transpired.

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As there's a couple of Miri fans in our group and we're on the subject so... do the Miri fans have any particular thoughts on Henry? I've pushed his involvement with Cerberus up and made him far worse (I think) than the game portrays as far as his (now four...) daughters are concerned. Twisted would not come close ha!