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[Seracen]

fainmaca wrote...

Ugh... had a horrible month that's put me waay behind on my writing.

Anyway, I need some help guys. I've got a storyline I;ve started weaving into my narrative, but it very much feels like I'm jumping the shark here. I need someone to either assure me it'll be fine or tell me to cut it out.

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So... thoughts? Can this work in Mass Effect? Is it stupid? If you think it'd work, do you have any advice?

I dunno, I think it may be slightly over the top.  However, it all depends on the nature of what was done to Joker.  I could totally see Joker "entering the Matrix" that is EDI.

However, the other way around depends on just how extensive his omnitool and implants are.  Honestly?  I'd consider it to be more of a ridealong situation.

For example, perhaps Joker is still controlling his body, but it feels like a videgame to him, since he's controlling his body from inside EDI's virtual space?  Therefore, EDI feels what it's like to be in his body, since she is along for the ride.  The reverse is also true, and they could get confused about who is controlling whom.

I dunno, I just feel that the two of them working together to control their respective bodies would cause a synergistic connection, a slight feeling of discomfort, and ultimately a method to bond them further.

The melodrama could arise from them both feeling guilty about infringing on personal boudaries, but being drawn together because of it.  They don't want to like it, it scares them, but they can't stop it.

Again, I will say that as long as your reasoning is sound, I can't see the fans rebelling too hard.  Moreover, after the wild plot involved in the Citadel DLC (I won't spoil it here), anything is possible.

Hope your stalker issues resolve themselves, and take advantage of anonymity to block them before it gets too wierd, if you need.  Take care of yourself, and remember to have fun with the story, or it's all pointless.

Modifié par Seracen, 07 mars 2013 - 10:20 .

[Fatiguesdualism]

@snipeshot224 I'm not sure whether war orphan is over-exposed, but as long as you can work with your character, why not run them through their paces?   Sorry I'm not more help!

Question, and yes its another daft one, is it ever stated -in game preferably- just what the little orange glows are that run down the Normandy's flanks?  Only asking because I'm not overly keen on the idea of windows running down the side of a warship (sub) and am currently going with:

 - now painted a solid dark, almost black, blue which was interrupted only by the dull glowing ‘tiger stripes’ of her [DRA].  The [Cerberus] logo emblazed upon the bow was gone too and Shepard was surprised that the Alliance had not simply replaced it with the ‘Stars in A’ -

Oh and does anyone have a more sensible name for the 'Cerberus Logo'?  It's kinda like a spy who carries ID that says they're a spy, not exactly covert!

PS  Yes I do realise that's two questions, but thanks for reading this far!

PPS I'm sooo tempted to buy Citadel right now (finally a ME3 DLC i'm interested in! ) but I really should wait till I can import a proper Shep.  AAUUGGGH!!!  (Nobody mention Gibbd, PS3 user here! )

Modifié par Fatiguesdualism, 08 mars 2013 - 12:33 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Fatiguesdualism wrote...

Question, and yes its another daft one, is it ever stated -in game preferably- just what the little orange glows are that run down the Normandy's flanks?  Only asking because I'm not overly keen on the idea of windows running down the side of a warship (sub) and am currently going with:

 - now painted a solid dark, almost black, blue which was interrupted only by the dull glowing ‘tiger stripes’ of her [DRA].  The [Cerberus] logo emblazed upon the bow was gone too and Shepard was surprised that the Alliance had not simply replaced it with the ‘Stars in A’ -

They could be warning lights, useful whenever the vessel is maneuvering in dock. Pilots of larger ships wouldn't see it of course but those in shuttles and other smaller types, could.

And I'm curious that DRA 'stripes' are visible to the eye. As far as I know, they can be picked up by scanners at long range, serving as a means of an ID marker.

Oh and does anyone have a more sensible name for the 'Cerberus Logo'?  It's kinda like a spy who carries ID that says their a spy, not exactly covert!

You could try emblem/tag/device/insignia.

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 07 mars 2013 - 11:40 .

[Fatiguesdualism]

Thanks Obsidian, my fault but should have mentioned that the Norm' is currently docked (would the warning lights stay on then?). Basically I'm trying to provide an explanation for those twinkly lights that won't result in people going 'WHAT? IDIOT!' at me. I'm kinda grasping at the DRA because I can kind of squint at it making sense (I can squint really hard/basically hot metal glows!) and its never really mentioned in game.

The whole 'Cerberus Logo' thing is more in the nature of a rename, eg not 'Cerberus Logo' more 'Binary Helix emblem' or 'Burger King motif'

[Drussius]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

The Sam romance is pretty lame, Im going to try liaras tomorrow or the weekend... I did find a lot of humour in the DLC

Without spoilers, I just felt the need to comment on the DLC.

For me, buying it was a no-brainer. I purposely avoided all trailers and talk about it because I like to judge these things for myself. But I have purchased every other DLC (not counting appearance/weapon packs) across all three games. So for me, the announcement could have said. "The final DLC for ME comes out Tuesday" and nothing else, and I would have thrown my money to them. I have the rest, why not complete the set? 

That said, I actually loved this DLC. The overall tone of it, the witty banter, the general premise, and a few select scenes... all of it had me smiling, occasionally chuckling, and in a few cases, laughing pretty hard. I even found all the little things about Anderson interesting enough to listen to them all. The mission portion was interesting, the settings were fairly cool, and I enjoyed it a lot. And then all the stuff afterward, with the crew? Worth. Every. Penny. Of course, that's just my view on it, and I'm not trying to start a debate if people disagree. This is just my two cents. Take it for what it is. Admittedly, I was hoping for a little more LI-related content (played my Liara-engaged Shep and my Traynor-engaged Femshep so far, and plan to run my Talimancer next), but overall, I'm very happy with what I got, even if not all of it was fantastic.

And from a guy who actually enjoys MP, I found the little combat sim thing to be a fun way to kill a few extra minutes here and there.

Again, no specifics to avoid spoilers for those who haven't played it. But Javik's extra bit? Meh. Grunt's extra bit? I haven't laughed that hard in a long time...

Very Minor Spoiler Follows:

For those who haven't played the DLC twice, I was especially tickled to find that depending on your choices for each stage of the celebratory fiesta, the conversations involved and then the subsequent choices change completely! A nice touch, I felt.

End Spoiler

The only real downside was that for the last two days, I've done almost no writing because I've been playing the new DLC with my free time. But then with my recent dip in readership for my fic, I suppose taking a few days off won't hurt. That's another discussion entirely, and I'm trying not to read too much into it, given the fact that I think Spring Break is either going on now, or starts soon. Not sure which. My kids aren't in college yet. And the DLC itself probably drew a fair number of fans away from reading for a little while.

[nrobbiec]

I have a question about dates, when is the Reaper war and what date was the drink with Chakwas roughly, so start of ME2? If these are even established. If not, what approximately sounds right? Forgive my brain mush jabbering, it's gone 3am.

[dpMeggers]

Re: DLC. Purchased, played. Want to hug it. Don't have Leviathan or Omega. Don't care to. Citadel was awesome and I recommend it.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

A simple sentence ... I've moved on. So even if the last DLC has LI romances, etc, I don't feel anything. What's keeping me here is the ME fanfic I'm working on and you lovely lot. And the MP I've been playing for a year now.

@Rob, regards the question on certain events; Reaper War, try the timeline in MEWiki. It doesn't list everything but you can estimate from the dates.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Fatiguesdualism wrote...

Thanks Obsidian, my fault but should have mentioned that the Norm' is currently docked (would the warning lights stay on then?). Basically I'm trying to provide an explanation for those twinkly lights that won't result in people going 'WHAT? IDIOT!' at me. I'm kinda grasping at the DRA because I can kind of squint at it making sense (I can squint really hard/basically hot metal glows!) and its never really mentioned in game.

I would say warning lights are perpetually on, even in dock (not dry dock). Nobody wants to blunder into a vessel.

I don't see the DRA strips at all in game actually.

[enayasoul]

@Hot_Heart: When I woke up this morning... the characters in my head were talking to each other... Shepard/Miranda especially... it was more focused around my current chapter. *half-way done*

Wasn't quite sure about how the scenes would go together, rough idea/outline for chapter but boy did I write a few pages this morning before doing anything else. It was awesome!

This chapter may be 'heavily' influenced by the Citadel DLC Shep/Miranda romance... but in a different way, I hope. Trying to keep the current tone I have going...   Anyways, just thought I'd share.

Have a few more ideas for post-story after this story is complete.  Might be a bit more emotional especially the beginning chapters. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/unsure.png[/smilie]

@Hot_Heart: Will you be including what happens in the DLC in your fic? Or continue with what you have planned?

Anyone else going to include what happens in the Citadel DLC in their stories?

Modifié par enayasoul, 08 mars 2013 - 05:53 .

[Ignis Mors]

enayasoul wrote...

@Hot heart: When I woke up this morning... the characters in my head were talking to each other... Shepard/Miranda especially... it was more focused around my current chapter. *half-way done* Wasn't quite sure about how the scenes would go together, rough idea/outline for chapter but boy did I write a few pages this morning before doing anything else. It was awesome! Have a few ideas more ideas for post-story after this one as well.

This next chapter may be 'heavily' influenced by the Citadel DLC Shep/Miranda romance... but in a different way, I hope. Trying to keep the current tone... Anyways, just thought I'd share.

Anyone else going to include what happens in the Citadel DLC in their stories?


Will you be including what happens in the DLC in your fic? Or continue with what you have planned?

I'll be continuing with what I have planned at least with Meus Mundus. Might include it with Crucible effect when I finally get back to writing it.

[fluffywalrus]

enayasoul wrote...
Anyone else going to include what happens in the Citadel DLC in their stories?

Well, there's a piano in the apartment...and my Shep plays piano.
And apparently (being vague here to avoid spoilers) there is a scene involving that piano...

Though I might shift that dialogue to my ME1 arc so that it fits a bit better and makes more sense, and have a different piano-related scene in the ME3 arc.

[enayasoul]

fluffywalrus wrote...

enayasoul wrote...
Anyone else going to include what happens in the Citadel DLC in their stories?

Well, there's a piano in the apartment...and my Shep plays piano.
And apparently (being vague here to avoid spoilers) there is a scene involving that piano...

Though I might shift that dialogue to my ME1 arc so that it fits a bit better and makes more sense, and have a different piano-related scene in the ME3 arc.

I quite enjoy the layout of the apartment. I really didn't change anything because it looked 'perfect' to me.  I like the brown wood look.  I might have played around with the deluxe sink bathroom.  The black bed was a reminder of what Miranda's bed was on SR2 so I kept it.

The piano is a big plus!  I have 'head cannon' that Miranda knows how to play it. I have already written that chapter where it's introduced but haven't published yet because I went another way in the story but will be included near the end of my fic, I think...  Nice to see it in the DLC!  

Actually did a drawing of an apartment, Shepard and Miranda move into in my next fic...(oops spoiler. haha)  the stairway and plants were similar but I think I'll be going with this apartment to some degree... It's sweet looking.

[hot_heart]

fainmaca wrote...
(could've been me you saw suggesting it).
I've felt for a long time that this is a better way to explore that, and have strongly opposed EDI getting a body. She doesn't have one in ITU, and I feel that that opens up pathways like this for me. I really want her to have more than the 'I'm a real boy!' storyline she got in ME3, so that's a large part of my motivation here.

I believe it was Ieldra actually, who has a strong affinity for transhumanism stuff, but you both share the exact same view on that aspect.

enayasoul wrote...
@Hot_Heart: Will you be including what happens in the DLC in your fic? Or continue with what you have planned?

As much as I really like the character stuff, it just doesn't fit with the rest of the game (particularly Miranda's parts) tonally or canonically. Which is a shame because, if BioWare had taken the time to do this sort of thing before ME3, it could have worked beautfully.

I'm not saying I have anything against people using any of it, and I do think parts could even be tweaked to fit in at certain junctures, but my approach is kind of 'all or nothing' at this point. If anything, I'd have to ditch the last holocall conversation which I liked (for fitting with the rest of ME3 more than anything else) and find rather poignant.

Modifié par hot_heart, 08 mars 2013 - 03:55 .

[dpMeggers]

enayasoul wrote...
Anyone else going to include what happens in the Citadel DLC in their stories?

Um. Maybe? I'm still pre-ME1 at the moment so unless I start pumping out chapters at the rate of like 2 a day sometime in the near future I'm not sure I'll ever get that far...but who knows.

So a general question: How do you feel about an OC taking part in what is otherwise a hard canonical retelling of the ME trilogy?

Because I have this character...and it would not be out of character for her to join Cerberus a la Chakwas or Joker because of her history with Shepard. (For those of you who are familiar with my story, you can probably guess who I'm talking about.) But she's definitely an OC and she was definitely not on the SR2 and she was definitely definitely not part of the combat squad. But in my head she's sort of clamouring to be. (On the ship, if not actually fighting)

And the more specific question...do I go for it if I can make it seem halfway plausible? Do I tell her to shut up and go away?

[snipeshot224]

dpMeggers wrote...

enayasoul wrote...
Anyone else going to include what happens in the Citadel DLC in their stories?

Um. Maybe? I'm still pre-ME1 at the moment so unless I start pumping out chapters at the rate of like 2 a day sometime in the near future I'm not sure I'll ever get that far...but who knows.

So a general question: How do you feel about an OC taking part in what is otherwise a hard canonical retelling of the ME trilogy?

Because I have this character...and it would not be out of character for her to join Cerberus a la Chakwas or Joker because of her history with Shepard. (For those of you who are familiar with my story, you can probably guess who I'm talking about.) But she's definitely an OC and she was definitely not on the SR2 and she was definitely definitely not part of the combat squad. But in my head she's sort of clamouring to be. (On the ship, if not actually fighting)

And the more specific question...do I go for it if I can make it seem halfway plausible? Do I tell her to shut up and go away?

I've seen plenty of writers do that, and if it's done well, it almost makes the story better. As long as it doesn't feel like you cut out space for them with a butcher cleaver and instead do it in a way that makes sense it'll fit perfectly. I'm actually doing the same thing to a degree. OC characters, but they'll bump into shep during missions you see in the games on occasion. And they'll be heavily involved with shep in a re-written ME3 ending (more Harbinger and no Glitter-B**** FTW!). So I say do it.

[nrobbiec]

enayasoul wrote...
Anyone else going to include what happens in the Citadel DLC in their stories?

I am. 

I'm mentioning Brooks, Jack's varren, the party and the photo.

I was planning on including a dream that was after Shepard and Kaidan's dinner date but it didn't really fit anywhere between the expanded Citadel date, post-Leviathan and post-Thessia sequences.

[Seracen]

enayasoul wrote...
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Anyone else going to include what happens in the Citadel DLC in their stories?

Already incorporated a lot of it.  Ironically enough, much of what I wrote already conforms with it, seing as how I referenced a lot of notes from what was cut out of the original game script (most of which was added via DLC).

A few minor changes and moments will take care of the rest of the DLC's.  It's just refreshing to no longer worry about whether new content will derail my story.



Citadel is the epilogue and post epilogue I expected.  Felt like the end of LOTR, here's and ending, and another, and one more for good measure, and they're different too!

[MrStoob]

enayasoul wrote...
Anyone else going to include what happens in the Citadel DLC in their stories?

My FF's waaay past the end of ME3 now but it could be mentioned in passing at some stage.

[hot_heart]

D'oh. Need to decide whether an old friend of Henry Lawson knew about Miranda's 'true' origin or not and the effect that has...or whether I've contradicted it earlier.

This is why you don't create an OC for just one chapter and then decide to develop them later, largely increasing their plot relevance.

[enayasoul]

Yep. I created a couple OC recently... but one specifically just to illustrate how a child would be if left with Mr. Lawson... Not good... One reader was glad the OC character died. He was mean. heh. I have another OC character coming up. Should be interesting. Not sure whether I'll keep her or kill her off like the other.

[dpMeggers]

hot_heart wrote...

D'oh. Need to decide whether an old friend of Henry Lawson knew about Miranda's 'true' origin or not and the effect that has...or whether I've contradicted it earlier.

This is why you don't create an OC for just one chapter and then decide to develop them later, largely increasing their plot relevance.

I hear that. That's why I'm basically rewriting Conversation from scratch. I never really established in my own mind what all my OCs who weren't one-chapter wonders were like beyond a few key traits...Oops.

[hot_heart]

Well, good news is I think I've figured it out. Had to go back and read my own work *cringe*
She knows about Oriana, so she must know the history behind the Lawsons.

I never intended to write more flashbacks but I enjoyed the first one and I've planted seeds now...

[Spiritwolf1]

Ok, I have to share my favorite lines of the Citadel DLC, its when they are in the casino and Shep is mingling and she approaches the two Asari and they start talking about the state of the humans and Earth and the one Asari mentions how she feel soory for them and they says.. it's likethier saying at least they like a stiff one in the lips... and Shepard corrects them... at least they have a stiff upper lip.

[hot_heart]

Yes, the DLC does have a bit of dirty humour. Especially for Jack fans.
...which is appropriate.