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#6476
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A thought:

Given that all of the species encountered in Mass Effect age/mature at different rates, is the legal drinking age/legal driving age/legal voting age (for folks who live on the Citadel) dependent on your species? I assume it would be.

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dpMeggers wrote...

A thought:

Given that all of the species encountered in Mass Effect age/mature at different rates, is the legal drinking age/legal driving age/legal voting age (for folks who live on the Citadel) dependent on your species? I assume it would be.


Seems logical to me, though I imagine they'd have to severely lower the age restrictions in the case of an Asari.

For that matter, I imagine any story involving the Geth as a voting power would also raise some interesting concerns.

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hot_heart wrote...

Inferno, diablo, slasher, thumper, stomper, rampager, savage, hellion.

Just throwing them out there.


Oooh...thanks for the input, haha. I might save "Hellion" for my Drell Husks, if I ever make them...

@ dpMeggers: didn't even realize that I'd named it a "Thrasher," haha. Still, I got some time. And you are right, they are all pretty descriptive, I won't obsess over it TOO much.

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Seracen wrote...

dpMeggers wrote...

A thought:

Given that all of the species encountered in Mass Effect age/mature at different rates, is the legal drinking age/legal driving age/legal voting age (for folks who live on the Citadel) dependent on your species? I assume it would be.


Seems logical to me, though I imagine they'd have to severely lower the age restrictions in the case of an Asari.

For that matter, I imagine any story involving the Geth as a voting power would also raise some interesting concerns.


It just occurred to me because one of my characters owns a bar...so presumably they and thier staff would have to know all of that noise. Drinking age is what occurred to me first, honestly. And the Geth definitely don't do that.

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dpMeggers wrote...

It just occurred to me because one of my characters owns a bar...so presumably they and thier staff would have to know all of that noise. Drinking age is what occurred to me first, honestly. And the Geth definitely don't do that.


Honestly, I can think of the easiest way for businesses to keep it straight, and avoid confusion or diplomatic incidents...

All bars card the clients.  Seems fairly straighforward.  ID cards could have different colors when the appropriate maturity was reached (for various factors), and they could institute some sort of fraud checking hologram, etc.

So minors would get red ID badges, to easily differentiate drinking ineligibility, or somesuch.

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Seracen wrote...

dpMeggers wrote...

It just occurred to me because one of my characters owns a bar...so presumably they and thier staff would have to know all of that noise. Drinking age is what occurred to me first, honestly. And the Geth definitely don't do that.


Honestly, I can think of the easiest way for businesses to keep it straight, and avoid confusion or diplomatic incidents...

All bars card the clients.  Seems fairly straighforward.  ID cards could have different colors when the appropriate maturity was reached (for various factors), and they could institute some sort of fraud checking hologram, etc.

So minors would get red ID badges, to easily differentiate drinking ineligibility, or somesuch.


I was thinking they'd probably just scan them and the scanner give either a positive or negative response. But I think to get a service license (as in to be a bartender) you'd still have to know that stuff. (Where I'm from you have to write a test before you're allowed to become a bartender.)

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dpMeggers wrote...

A thought:

Given that all of the species encountered in Mass Effect age/mature at different rates, is the legal drinking age/legal driving age/legal voting age (for folks who live on the Citadel) dependent on your species? I assume it would be.

A possibility is that the Citadel cultures don't have a minimum drinking age, but instead leave it to parents whether or not they let their children drink alcahol before a certain species-specific age.

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Ignis Mors wrote...

dpMeggers wrote...

A thought:

Given that all of the species encountered in Mass Effect age/mature at different rates, is the legal drinking age/legal driving age/legal voting age (for folks who live on the Citadel) dependent on your species? I assume it would be.

A possibility is that the Citadel cultures don't have a minimum drinking age, but instead leave it to parents whether or not they let their children drink alcahol before a certain species-specific age.


Also a possibility. I can certainly see the Asari and Salarians acting like this, but Turians and Humans always struck me as a little more regimented about this sort of thing. Ultimately I doubt it's something that's ever going to come up in anything I write, but it's fun to speculate about.

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dpMeggers wrote...

Also a possibility. I can certainly see the Asari and Salarians acting like this, but Turians and Humans always struck me as a little more regimented about this sort of thing. Ultimately I doubt it's something that's ever going to come up in anything I write, but it's fun to speculate about.


I forgot about future tech, the scan thingy makes sense.

Funny thing about Turians/Humans.  Both are probably more regimented, as you say, however, it's interesting that the 1st SPECTRE was Salarian.

Also, the codes on fraternization are completely different.  Whereas human doctrine says "no," Turians expect to "get out the tension" regularly.  Very interesting, considering how similarly militaristic the two are (compared to the other species).

Again, just amusing that both sides can have the same feel but go about it in different manners.

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Oooh...thanks for the input, haha. I might save "Hellion" for my Drell Husks, if I ever make them...

@ dpMeggers: didn't even realize that I'd named it a "Thrasher," haha. Still, I got some time. And you are right, they are all pretty descriptive, I won't obsess over it TOO much.


On Drell husks I think more religious names work, I named a Reaper Drell/Hanar husk an apostle.

The description for your Vorcha husk makes me think "imp" but that's not a very intimidating name :P

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Seracen wrote...

dpMeggers wrote...

Also a possibility. I can certainly see the Asari and Salarians acting like this, but Turians and Humans always struck me as a little more regimented about this sort of thing. Ultimately I doubt it's something that's ever going to come up in anything I write, but it's fun to speculate about.


I forgot about future tech, the scan thingy makes sense.

Funny thing about Turians/Humans.  Both are probably more regimented, as you say, however, it's interesting that the 1st SPECTRE was Salarian.

Also, the codes on fraternization are completely different.  Whereas human doctrine says "no," Turians expect to "get out the tension" regularly.  Very interesting, considering how similarly militaristic the two are (compared to the other species).

Again, just amusing that both sides can have the same feel but go about it in different manners.


Well at the time, the only citadel species were the Asari and the Salarians...so options were pretty limited. The first Spectre was also an STG operative, and those guys don't mess around (Mordin, Kirrahe). 

As for fraternization (particularly in the Turian military, that is to say Turian society) I have a few thoughts on the matter:

1) Turians have fifteen years of mandatory service starting at age 15, humans have voluntary service. Maybe the heirarchy just didn't want to deal with telling an entire population of hormone-addled teenagers and twenty year olds not to...'pop the heat sink'?

2) We know from Garrus that 'stress relief' is encouraged - usually by sparring, but sometimes through other methods. It's possible that relationships between members of the same unit are discouraged, but friends-with-benefits or one-night stands are permitted.

Edit: I also get the impression that there is some/a fair amount of fraternization that goes on in the Alliance, but that's is very hush-hush, risky and only works if the superiors are willing to turn a blind eye. In ME3 Shep has the opportunity to hook up Ken and Gabby and Joker and EDI (and as much as Joker would like to convince himself he's not breaking regs, as far as I'm concerned being in a relationship with the Ship counts as dating crew). He/She can also openly be in a relationship with Kaidan, Ashely, Traynor or Cortez, all of which would count as fraternization. Now the end of civilization as we know it might be an exception to what is generally a hard and fast rule, but I'll bet a whole bunch of people have broken it at one point or another.

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I suppose it's not a surprise no one cares. I'd probably have better luck putting this on Fanfic.net. Unfortunately, it doesn't really fit the criteria of "Fan Fiction" in that it's not a story, it is a plot summary, and it also outlines gameplay details, so I can't put it there.

Guess I can hope someone bothers to read the thing and gives me feedback - although most people don't read most of the stuff that gets posted here anyway.

http://social.biowar.../index/16251236

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 Ok, here's the thing. I don't mind being asked to look at and/or review stories. I'm actually quite open to the idea. But I have a problem with being passive-aggressively guilted into looking at other people's work.
Some advice: You want someone to look at your work? Good. Own it. Be proud of it. Tell people it's worth looking at and why it's awesome. Give people an idea of what they're going to be seeing. But sometimes people aren't interested in the subject matter. We may be a support thread but we don't read everything and we don't have all the answers.
Having made that point rather harshly and probably quite rudely, if you're looking for more hits that aren't dependent on your work being on the front page - try deviantart.com. It's a bit of a pain to upload stories to it but the rules for what can be uploaded aren't as restrictive.

All that being said - I will now go look at your work. Not because your method of asking was effective, but because it was the first time you asked that way and maybe you didn't see anything wrong with the way you asked. 

I want to make it clear as well that this is just my opinion. I apologize if any of the regulars here think I'm out of line with this or that I was speaking for you. If you feel that is the case feel free to PM me to let me know.

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@ dpMeggers: No, I can see your point. I don't take it personally, but I think that the frequenters of this thread have been very nice and classy people. As such, I like to expect kind and classy behavior as a result.

As a result of work (and sometimes classes), I tend to filter/ignore passive aggressiveness. I deal with enough agita in life; and I certainly don't need it during my downtime.

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On a lighter note, I TOTALLY admit to being greedy, and not wanting to read other stuff until I get past the halfway point of my story (or if it's a short read). :P

My brain has this nasty habit of storing scenes I like in the back of my mind, and occasionally I'll write a scene, only to find out it was heavily influenced. I've avoided plagiarism, than goodness, but I am always self conscious about such things. "Homage" is a line that can easily be crossed.

Pfft, what am I saying, I just don't want to read an amazing work and then go "damn, why can't I do that?!" :devil:

One of you has already crafted an amazing scene that intersects too closely with something I had planned in my fic, and now I am backpedaling to adjust it.

On the bright side, it's a unique challenge, and I thoroughly enjoyed the other work. I'd just rather not have that self-consciousness rolling around in my headspace in future chapters. 

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Seracen wrote...

@ dpMeggers: No, I can see your point. I don't take it personally, but I think that the frequenters of this thread have been very nice and classy people. As such, I like to expect kind and classy behavior as a result.

As a result of work (and sometimes classes), I tend to filter/ignore passive aggressiveness. I deal with enough agita in life; and I certainly don't need it during my downtime.


Thank you for the gentle reminder to cool my jets. Heh. I'll try my best to keep it in mind.



Seracen wrote...

On a lighter note, I TOTALLY admit to being greedy, and not wanting to read other stuff until I get past the halfway point of my story (or if it's a short read). [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

My brain has this nasty habit of storing scenes I like in the back of my mind, and occasionally I'll write a scene, only to find out it was heavily influenced. I've avoided plagiarism, than goodness, but I am always self conscious about such things. "Homage" is a line that can easily be crossed.

Pfft, what am I saying, I just don't want to read an amazing work and then go "damn, why can't I do that?!" [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

One of you has already crafted an amazing scene that intersects too closely with something I had planned in my fic, and now I am backpedaling to adjust it.

On the bright side, it's a unique challenge, and I thoroughly enjoyed the other work. I'd just rather not have that self-consciousness rolling around in my headspace in future chapters. 


Yes, I've had to tell myself that I'm not going to try to catch up on any more stories until I finish the next chapter or two of my own story. (Unless as you said, it's a short read). I'm so far behind on so many of them that if I try to read everyone else's I'll never finish my own.

Like you I'm a little worried about writing something that's *ahem* heavily influenced by other writers. I think I've avoided this so far by writing prequels rather than sequels as so many of you are doing. Also by having a Shepard who doesn't romance Liara. Also by having a male Shep. (There is a bit of a predominant pairing in this thread I've found). 

I will say that I have adopted elements of other fics into my idea of what particular characters are like but also that similar characters develop similar traits independently of their authors. A Star to Steer Her By for example has Joker as a fan of 80's/90's metal from when he was an angry teenager - which I like too much to pass up. Salser/nox and Fluffywalrus/thedeadflag's Earthborn Sheps are decent cooks - which was a trait Damon wound up sharing before I was reading their fics.

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This will be my first time posting in this entire forum, but I'm going to give it a go.

For the longest time, well essentially since the first time I completed mass effect 3, I found myself wanting more story from the combat perspective. I know people always get their panties in a bunch over ME3's ending and such, but to be honest my aspirations have nothing to do with that. My goal, is to explore more deeply into the lines of war during ME3's time. While shepard was up there, what happened on the ground? Multiplayer shows only small battles, but I want to expand upon the massive war that is really happening. Now believe me, I know this idea is not new. Yet, is it such a bad one? I know many people such as myself always love to read stories like this, to see new perspectives, new ideas, etc. That is the primary reason I would like to expand upon the ideas I have had.

For example, let's just grab a random selection of characters from multiplayer. The n7 characters, perhaps? These guys are tanks, and personally I think all 6 of them have a skillset that sets them apart and really dives into a different style of combat, whether you enjoy infiltration combat of a shadow or the brute force of a destroyer. This are the characters protecting earth, yet we see none of that in singleplayer, all you know is that alliance marines are dying left and right. What you see from cut scenes is just to lay the groundwork for Shepard to step in and be the savior of the day. That's not how it works. Shepard may be skilled in combat because you play as him, but in the realistic view of things, there are soldiers stronger than him fighting on the ground, and that is the life that needs more story. I should clarify too that I am not just referring to N7 humans, but to all of the races. What about other races of reapers? Where do all of these races and guns get mixed together? What priorities are set? All of these questions I have in my head, yet I also have ways that I want to answer them. That will be my fanfiction that I begin quite soon, and do let me know of your thoughts. As I stated earlier, it's not a new idea, but I hope that I may at least be able to bring in my perspective of it.

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@ Toxic White: Welcome and good luck.

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Toxic White wrote...

This will be my first time posting in this entire forum, but I'm going to give it a go.

For the longest time, well essentially since the first time I completed mass effect 3, I found myself wanting more story from the combat perspective. I know people always get their panties in a bunch over ME3's ending and such, but to be honest my aspirations have nothing to do with that. My goal, is to explore more deeply into the lines of war during ME3's time. While shepard was up there, what happened on the ground? Multiplayer shows only small battles, but I want to expand upon the massive war that is really happening. Now believe me, I know this idea is not new. Yet, is it such a bad one? I know many people such as myself always love to read stories like this, to see new perspectives, new ideas, etc. That is the primary reason I would like to expand upon the ideas I have had.

For example, let's just grab a random selection of characters from multiplayer. The n7 characters, perhaps? These guys are tanks, and personally I think all 6 of them have a skillset that sets them apart and really dives into a different style of combat, whether you enjoy infiltration combat of a shadow or the brute force of a destroyer. This are the characters protecting earth, yet we see none of that in singleplayer, all you know is that alliance marines are dying left and right. What you see from cut scenes is just to lay the groundwork for Shepard to step in and be the savior of the day. That's not how it works. Shepard may be skilled in combat because you play as him, but in the realistic view of things, there are soldiers stronger than him fighting on the ground, and that is the life that needs more story. I should clarify too that I am not just referring to N7 humans, but to all of the races. What about other races of reapers? Where do all of these races and guns get mixed together? What priorities are set? All of these questions I have in my head, yet I also have ways that I want to answer them. That will be my fanfiction that I begin quite soon, and do let me know of your thoughts. As I stated earlier, it's not a new idea, but I hope that I may at least be able to bring in my perspective of it.


I think there are plenty of people who would like to see a combat-oriented story with a focus like this. :) You seem to have thought about this fairly thoroughly, and you have a lot of routes you could take with it, it has potential. As always, it'll depend on how you engage with the characters of the story, and how you detail the differing combat situations, tactics, etc. within the story.
Good luck with it, and if you have any questions, please, feel free to ask!

Legion of 1337 wrote...

I suppose it's not a surprise no
one cares. I'd probably have better luck putting this on Fanfic.net.
Unfortunately, it doesn't really fit the criteria of "Fan Fiction" in
that it's not a story, it is a plot summary, and it also outlines
gameplay details, so I can't put it there.

Guess I can hope
someone bothers to read the thing and gives me feedback - although most
people don't read most of the stuff that gets posted here anyway.

http://social.biowar.../index/16251236


Just going to point out a few things:

1) Bioware's social network is a poor place to deliver content akin to fanfiction. You'd be better off on a higher volume site like deviantart where people might actually comment or be able to see/notice your work. There are relatively decent mass effect communities there, and they accept non-narrative content readily.

2) Fanfiction tends to be narrative based, and games are interactive, so your format which fits snugly in the area in between tends to not really garner a heck of a lot f interest. There's a lack of reader interaction, and a lack of narrative detail and progression, so in the end...it is what it is. It's a "what if..." description of what could have been interesting in the game, including mechanics, but that never will be due to a number of obvious reasons. An interesting thing to perhaps think about, but nothing that, IMO, is terribly engaging. Might end up spiraling more into discussions on lore conssistencies.

3)  You're right, most of the work advertised here isn't read, and for good reason. This isn't an advertising board. It's not meant to be one. it's a support thread for writers who want help with their craft, with lore expansions, lore inconsistencies, etc., all the way to just area to vent about the writing and publishing process.

You're not entitled to any comments/feedback/reviews/etc. of your work from us. Once upon a time (late spring to early autumn last year), I took it upon myself to try and read everyone's stuff here. I quickly ended up having 80+ stories I follow, many of which update regularly. Sure, not all were from this thread, but many were, and given that I already spend an hour or two daily reading fics, I think it's clear how such expectations can spiral into insanity pretty quickly.
Just like how no one who publishes work is forced to read other people's work as well. In fact, i find many who WANT feedback on their work, and who have brought that request up constantly here on this board, are often people who do absolutely no reading of other work in the fandom. I figure, if you're here advertising and want feedback, show me proof that you're willing to do the same.

So yeah. You're not entitled to feedback on your story/work/etc., so stop being passive aggressive here. We're a friendly, helpful bunch, but it kind of sucks when people toss out crap asserting we don't care. We do. If you have issues, concerns, questions about the writing process or lore, or plot development, then that's what we're here for.

And sorry I guess if my tone's a bit aggressive, I've had a bit of a crappy day.

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Ha, that was a friendly greeting.

Seriously though, Legion of 1337, it looks more like something you'd want to take to the main forums or for which you should create a thread in Fan Creations. I'm not sure how much help we'd be able to offer or even what sort of feedback you're after. Are you looking to turn this into a full story, discuss narrative techniques or do you just want people to say 'cool idea'?

A thread of its own would allow proper discussion and an easier back-and-forth than in here.

EDIT: And I see you have created a thread. Hooray. :P

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I brought this up on the other forum but was wondering about writers' opinions.

Reapers didn't harvest species which weren't advanced or basically animals, yet they harvested the harvesters which seems an anomaly.
So what do people think? Would Reapers harvest animals, Reaper thresher maws, klixen and varren on Tuchanka? I can't think of a way of explaining harvester harvesting otherwise unless they're secretly sentient or something.

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nrobbiec wrote...

I brought this up on the other forum but was wondering about writers' opinions.

Reapers didn't harvest species which weren't advanced or basically animals, yet they harvested the harvesters which seems an anomaly.
So what do people think? Would Reapers harvest animals, Reaper thresher maws, klixen and varren on Tuchanka? I can't think of a way of explaining harvester harvesting otherwise unless they're secretly sentient or something.

It could be that the harvesters were huskified because the reapers thought that they needed some kind of aerial units that are a lot smaller than destroyers or dreadnaughts or such. And, they also seemed to be troop-transports. So, it could have just been they were husked because it was convenient for the reapers.

Edit. On thresher maws, I'd say that threshers would be too difficult to huskify that the reapers would say that it was not worth the hassle. Cause, Kalros may have been the biggest of the thresher maws, but even two regular threshers would probably be able to take down a dreadnaught.

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@ Fluffy: it's the return of winter isn't it? That's what put me over the edge today. (So tired of seeing my breath when I go outside...)

nrobbiec wrote...

I brought this up on the other forum but was wondering about writers' opinions.

Reapers didn't harvest species which weren't advanced or basically animals, yet they harvested the harvesters which seems an anomaly.
So what do people think? Would Reapers harvest animals, Reaper thresher maws, klixen and varren on Tuchanka? I can't think of a way of explaining harvester harvesting otherwise unless they're secretly sentient or something.


Heh, harvested the harvesters. You know I'm not certain they were being harvested - just huskified. Which is probably a difference of semantics. Meh. I'm adding my vote to that they were probably just convenient troop transport to be honest.

I'd also say that klixen are useless to the Reapers b/c they already have the rachni and thresher maws are useless unless they're going after an underground society. 


A question of my own: there are skycars in ME...are there skycycles (like...motorcycles but hovery) what about skyscooters?

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dpMeggers wrote...

@ Fluffy: it's the return of winter isn't it? That's what put me over the edge today. (So tired of seeing my breath when I go outside...)


A question of my own: there are skycars in ME...are there skycycles (like...motorcycles but hovery) what about skyscooters?


Well, the weather's been annoying, and i had a bus driver who, with a packed bus and after sending people to the back as usual, refused to open the doors at the back of the bus, making me miss a number of stops before i could push my way further to the front of the bus (along with a few others) and get off at the front exit. Was late for class because of that nonsense. But on top of that, I've been challenging the grade I got on an important paper, and the prof is more or less being indecisive on the possibility of re-grading it on the bounds that she doesn't accept the terminology I've used in the paper, and because of that, she feels she will grade me unfairly. Yet, my terminolgoy is academically proper, widely used in academia even, it's just her subjective view of privilege and social structures, systems of oppression, etc. that's screwing me over right now. It was bad enough having a TA give me a C- for not understanding the words I used (even though I included endnotes), but having a prof that DOES understand the words, but personally rejects them? Ugh. Last thig I want to do is bring it to the head of the department, but...well...I might.

So yeah, weather + annoying teachers and TA I pay aren't respecting the terminology I'm using. Other profs have in the past, I don't see why this one can't put aside her idological differences and grade it properly.

As for on topic stuff, I would hope there are sky-bikes and sky-scooters :3 Just difficult to do in the game, but I can totally see them existing. Of course, I also like to think that hoverboards (back to the future) could be around then, too, so...

But yes. I imagine there are variants, depending on the form of transportation one preferred.

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hot_heart wrote...

Ha, that was a friendly greeting.

Seriously though, Legion of 1337, it looks more like something you'd want to take to the main forums or for which you should create a thread in Fan Creations. I'm not sure how much help we'd be able to offer or even what sort of feedback you're after. Are you looking to turn this into a full story, discuss narrative techniques or do you just want people to say 'cool idea'?

A thread of its own would allow proper discussion and an easier back-and-forth than in here.

EDIT: And I see you have created a thread. Hooray. :P

Sorry, sorry, I didn't think everyone was going to take that post as me complaining. I'd posted that piece of writing a couple days ago and it just kind of sucks when you go and write something that long and thought-out and no one ever looks at it. I can see how my post was almost like a self-bump without actually bumping the original thread. I don't intend to keep asking people to read it if that's what any of you mean.

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Just going to point out a few things:

1) Bioware's social network is a poor place to deliver content akin to fanfiction. You'd be better off on a higher volume site like deviantart where people might actually comment or be able to see/notice your work. There are relatively decent mass effect communities there, and they accept non-narrative content readily.

2) Fanfiction tends to be narrative based, and games are interactive, so your format which fits snugly in the area in between tends to not really garner a heck of a lot f interest. There's a lack of reader interaction, and a lack of narrative detail and progression, so in the end...it is what it is. It's a "what if..." description of what could have been interesting in the game, including mechanics, but that never will be due to a number of obvious reasons. An interesting thing to perhaps think about, but nothing that, IMO, is terribly engaging. Might end up spiraling more into discussions on lore conssistencies.

3)  You're right, most of the work advertised here isn't read, and for good reason. This isn't an advertising board. It's not meant to be one. it's a support thread for writers who want help with their craft, with lore expansions, lore inconsistencies, etc., all the way to just area to vent about the writing and publishing process. 

[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">You're not entitled to any comments/feedback/reviews/etc. of your work from us. Once upon a time (late spring to early autumn last year), I took it upon myself to try and read everyone's stuff here. I quickly ended up having 80+ stories I follow, many of which update regularly. Sure, not all were from this thread, but many were, and given that I already spend an hour or two ]daily[/color] reading fics, I think it's clear how such expectations can spiral into insanity pretty quickly. 
Just like how no one who publishes work is forced to read other people's work as well. In fact, i find many who WANT feedback on their work, and who have brought that request up constantly here on this board, are often people who do absolutely no reading of other work in the fandom. I figure, if you're here advertising and want feedback, show me proof that you're willing to do the same. 

So yeah. You're not entitled to feedback on your story/work/etc., so stop being passive aggressive here. We're a friendly, helpful bunch, but it kind of sucks when people toss out crap asserting we don't care. We do. If you have issues, concerns, questions about the writing process or lore, or plot development, then that's what we're here for. 

And sorry I guess if my tone's a bit aggressive, I've had a bit of a crappy day.

Ok, fine. Jeez. You guys are quite a different bunch form the guys on the main forums.

I guess I won't even bother.

Chiao.

Modifié par Legion of 1337, 15 mars 2013 - 02:28 .