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#651
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Aye. I mean, everyone had potential, but it fell far from the mark. I tried getting Garrus to see that being this super renegade bro wasn't a cool idea, and by the end of ME1 he agreed, and then....welp, he forgot I guess. Or didn't care. Both kind of bugged me and kept me from really enjoying his character. I kind of respected him for sticking to his guns, but...meh. He makes for an intersting turian, just not that amazing of a character in general, I guess. I liked him enough. Just not as much as I wanted to.

Miranda had potential, but the writing for her and the direction they took her in was really...tame. I expected more, and because I didn't get that, it was hard to emphasize with Miranda. The LotSB dossier helped a bit, but even then, it was kind of roughly handled.

Jacob...I just disliked him for mostly in-game reasons. I couldn't be nice to him without flirting, and I didn't want him to think of my Shep as "the Priiiizze" so I kind of avoided him. That, and he's awfully judgmental sometimes. As a character, it's hard for me to get to know him, playing Femshep, without going renegade with him and peeving him off. He's kind of like Garrus, except more annoying because of how he's set up in the game. He's just meh.

I'll admit, the ending of ME3 crushed me beyond belief, and I was heartbroken for over a month. On one hand, I wanted my Shep to be with Liara after the defeat of the Reapers, as I'm also a fair bit of a romantic, but...I didn't expect my Shep to live. ME3 was her death march, her final weeks, trying to accomplish as much good as she could before taking her leave. Trying to love as fiercely as she could with the time she was given.

So I kind of just wanted an ending that showed my character's love and devotion to that wonderful asari shadow broker, maybe some visually-rendered hopes for the future, like Quarians on Rannoch with the Geth, Krogan rebuilding on Tuchanka, Thessia being restored to its former glory, the Elcor getting a spot on the council like they so very much deserve, etc....when it didn't happen, I wrote one.

And that led to me writing my origin fic :)


Jumping on the bandwagon late, but here goes.

I don't particularly hate any character (or at least as much as some people on the forum do), but some characters had to take several playthroughs for them to grow on me *cough cough* Miranda  *cough cough*. Part of the reason I don't like Jacob is because his powers were never that useful to me. I mean pull and barrier? There are other squadmates whose powers are more strategtically useful in combat, so Jacob spent most of ME2 in my game working on his abs in the armoury.

Part of the reason why I feel that Jacob falls flat as a characters is that he's far too normal compared to the rest of your squadmates. You hang out with criminals (Kasumi, Jack), a paladin (Samara), genetically modified "perfections" of their race (Miranda, Grunt), a former STG operative (Mordin), Archangel, a mercenary (Zaeed), etc.
If I met him in real life, Jacob would probably be a cool guy to chill with; we could grab some drinks, sit on a beach somewhere and talk about stuff in general. In a video game with much more colourful and interesting pasts, he just seems uninteresting by comparison. Also, I seriously dislike his power combinations.

That being sad, i was surprised to find myself happy to see him again in ME3. By the point, you lose so many friends and team mates that it's nice to see that some are still alive.

The ending... I don't mind dying epically, even though I would like to survive and live out the rest of my life with my LI. I just mind dying in a way that doesn't make any sense. I would have been fine if they just stopped it at Anderson and Shepard spending their last moments together on the Citadel.

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I hate forced death in an RPG. Especially if that RPG is big on choices. For God's sake, make multiple endings. Why else write.such great romances where many have "after the war" promises if you can't follow through? This is one of the reasons the ending failed. Bioware forgot how much we love the characters. I don't not want Shepard to die because of Shepard. I want her not to die because of Liara, dammit....

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Without wanting to go into a big talk on the endings, I fully expected Shepard to die so I was perfectly OK with that aspect. And the romances in ME2 were prepared for that eventuality anyway.

Basically, what Icyflare said.

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 Torch the Franchise and Run.  :whistle:


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Sialater: No arguments there lol.

Lieutenant is one of those words my mind refuses to learn. I'm constantly butchering it while handwriting.... I know it's wrong when I see it, but I can't for the life of me get it right without looking it up. Damn you, Alenko *shakes fist.*

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Icyflare wrote...

I don't particularly hate any character (or at least as much as some people on the forum do), but some characters had to take several playthroughs for them to grow on me *cough cough* Miranda  *cough cough*. Part of the reason I don't like Jacob is because his powers were never that useful to me. I mean pull and barrier? There are other squadmates whose powers are more strategtically useful in combat, so Jacob spent most of ME2 in my game working on his abs in the armoury.

While this isn't really a place for tactics, I would say that a pullbot that can defend himself and provide incendiary ammo to the rest of the squad is actually a fairly useful squadmate to have. As far as I'm concerned, Jacob was a top-tier guy; he didn't tank quite as well as Grunt did, but he could set up Warp bombs like nobody's business.

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daqs wrote...

While this isn't really a place for tactics, I would say that a pullbot that can defend himself and provide incendiary ammo to the rest of the squad is actually a fairly useful squadmate to have. As far as I'm concerned, Jacob was a top-tier guy; he didn't tank quite as well as Grunt did, but he could set up Warp bombs like nobody's business.


I suppose. I never used him like that, because I couldn't see how he fit into my playing style of  vanguard charge-everything-on-the-screen. Will try him out if I play another class.

As for writing, has anyone else reached a point in their writer's block where they want to toss their monitors through a window?

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@Icyflare: I can't say that I've ever gotten to that point no. Usually I just walk away and take a break long before then.

Does anyone have tips for writing combat? Or do they know of a fic which has well written combat so I can get some inspiration?

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I am actually working on a fic, and need some help creating some races which inhabit a different galaxy that the characters in my fic end end up in and fighting them. Need a major synthetic lifeform and minor organics. Some ideas please, I am stuck.

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warbozz wrote...

I am actually working on a fic, and need some help creating some races which inhabit a different galaxy that the characters in my fic end end up in and fighting them. Need a major synthetic lifeform and minor organics. Some ideas please, I am stuck.


It might help if you think about the types of environments of the planets they will be visiting. Are they going to a place with a powerful gravity? Many something that keeps low to the ground and has a powerful circulatory system may be an idea, like a giant centipede-like creature. How about planets with little gravity and strong winds? Maybe some kind of glider creatures or ones that wide and broad and can't be easily knocked down.

Synthetic lifeforms would be dependent on the organics that create them. As it's noticed in ME3, many synthetics bare a similarity to the species that created them (e.g. geth, EDI's robot body).

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too tired and beat can't remember what the point I was trying to type up was so I'm off to bed.

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MidnightRaith wrote...

Sialater: No arguments there lol.

Lieutenant is one of those words my mind refuses to learn. I'm constantly butchering it while handwriting.... I know it's wrong when I see it, but I can't for the life of me get it right without looking it up. Damn you, Alenko *shakes fist.*


LT works nicely.

This, incidentally, is why my world moved to using phonetic writing ;)

Modifié par lillitheris, 11 juin 2012 - 07:13 .


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lillitheris wrote...

LT works nicely.

This, incidentally, is why my world moved to using phonetic writing ;)


Won't work, unfortunately. I'm writing from Liara's point of view, and she's very proper. Especially now when she's just been put on the Normandy and hasn't had a chance to pick up on some of our less than formal speaking habits. So, I'm just going to either learn how to spell it, and who knows if that will go down well, or just write the damn word on something that I always have with me.

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MidnightRaith wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

LT works nicely.

This, incidentally, is why my world moved to using phonetic writing ;)


Won't work, unfortunately. I'm writing from Liara's point of view, and she's very proper. Especially now when she's just been put on the Normandy and hasn't had a chance to pick up on some of our less than formal speaking habits. So, I'm just going to either learn how to spell it, and who knows if that will go down well, or just write the damn word on something that I always have with me.


Get a wicked looking tattoo? :) Of course, this only works if you spelled "Lieutenant" correctly in the first place...

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MidnightRaith wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

LT works nicely.

This, incidentally, is why my world moved to using phonetic writing ;)


Won't work, unfortunately. I'm writing from Liara's point of view, and she's very proper. Especially now when she's just been put on the Normandy and hasn't had a chance to pick up on some of our less than formal speaking habits. So, I'm just going to either learn how to spell it, and who knows if that will go down well, or just write the damn word on something that I always have with me.


Sure it will. You write LT in your notebook, then you start typing it into your editor and when you’ve typed ‘li’, it’ll suggest ‘lieutenant’. Or you define a macro in your editor that expands LT into ‘lieutenant’! At the very least, you have a spell checker, no?

Use the power of technology ^_^

Modifié par lillitheris, 11 juin 2012 - 08:12 .


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MidnightRaith wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

LT works nicely.

This, incidentally, is why my world moved to using phonetic writing ;)


Won't work, unfortunately. I'm writing from Liara's point of view, and she's very proper. Especially now when she's just been put on the Normandy and hasn't had a chance to pick up on some of our less than formal speaking habits. So, I'm just going to either learn how to spell it, and who knows if that will go down well, or just write the damn word on something that I always have with me.


I'd say just break the word down into two parts: Lieu and tenant. Lieu, meaning stead/place, is used in sentences such as "In lieu of choosing a scimitar shotgun, Gunnery Chief Williams decided the heftier Claymore was more appropriate"


Edit:

Unrelated, but quick questions:
-What is your stance on media(movies, music, etc.) moderately influencing scenes in a fic? Not like, blatant copy-pasta or anything so absurd, but applying some basic themes throughout parts of the fic?
-Why do so few people include Elcor into their fics? Seriously, they're fun.

Modifié par fluffywalrus, 11 juin 2012 - 10:15 .


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fluffywalrus wrote...

*snip*

-Why do so few people include Elcor into their fics? Seriously, they're fun.


Sincere Curiosity: I would like to know this as well....

With Pride: Elcor are the greatest race in the galaxy...

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dpMeggers wrote...

@Icyflare: I can't say that I've ever gotten to that point no. Usually I just walk away and take a break long before then.

Does anyone have tips for writing combat? Or do they know of a fic which has well written combat so I can get some inspiration?


Heya, any specific type of combat you have in mind?

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Drussius wrote...

fluffywalrus wrote...

*snip*

-Why do so few people include Elcor into their fics? Seriously, they're fun.


Sincere Curiosity: I would like to know this as well....

With Pride: Elcor are the greatest race in the galaxy...


Fantastic idea! Comic relief inc :)

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noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Drussius wrote...

fluffywalrus wrote...

*snip*

-Why do so few people include Elcor into their fics? Seriously, they're fun.


Sincere Curiosity: I would like to know this as well....

With Pride: Elcor are the greatest race in the galaxy...


Fantastic idea! Comic relief inc :)


Would it really do justice to them to just use elcor for comic relief?

They’re quite hard to write about in any other manner (hanar even moreso), which is probably why most won’t bother. I’ve been thinking about it a little, and it’s probably doable…but I’m not sure I’d try it.

The ‘rachni challenge‘ is equally interesting. My earlier attempts at trying to describe their internal existence were alternately completely incomprehensible or, when simplified, read pretentious. In the end, I ended up just describing them from the perspective of the humanoids (which I thought came out pretty well). I’m curious to see if someone can do better.

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lillitheris wrote...

Would it really do justice to them to just use elcor for comic relief?

They’re quite hard to write about in any other manner (hanar even moreso), which is probably why most won’t bother. I’ve been thinking about it a little, and it’s probably doable…but I’m not sure I’d try it.

The ‘rachni challenge‘ is equally interesting. My earlier attempts at trying to describe their internal existence were alternately completely incomprehensible or, when simplified, read pretentious. In the end, I ended up just describing them from the perspective of the humanoids (which I thought came out pretty well). I’m curious to see if someone can do better.


I was intrigued by the Rachni Challenge and thought about giving it a try. However, I decided that I didn't want to take a risk on that for my first fanfiction. If it was awful because of the difficulty of writing Rachni well, I didn't want the attempt to result in people not even giving anything else I might write a try. But if someone does it, I'd love to see it.

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Actually, I'd like to see the elcor in action on Earth as heavy artillery. Properly shielded, I bet those suckers could take out a brute, no sweat.

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noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

dpMeggers wrote...

@Icyflare: I can't say that I've ever gotten to that point no. Usually I just walk away and take a break long before then.

Does anyone have tips for writing combat? Or do they know of a fic which has well written combat so I can get some inspiration?


Heya, any specific type of combat you have in mind?


Lol. All of them really.

At the moment, it has more of an urban warfare feel (Skyllian Blitz). But later I'm going to be writing from ME1 and that's more of an agressive firesquad in mutliple terrains. 

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dpMeggers wrote...

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

dpMeggers wrote...

@Icyflare: I can't say that I've ever gotten to that point no. Usually I just walk away and take a break long before then.

Does anyone have tips for writing combat? Or do they know of a fic which has well written combat so I can get some inspiration?


Heya, any specific type of combat you have in mind?


Lol. All of them really.

At the moment, it has more of an urban warfare feel (Skyllian Blitz). But later I'm going to be writing from ME1 and that's more of an agressive firesquad in mutliple terrains.


Even narrowing it down to planetary warfare is pretty useful. Naval warfare is extremely complex, and really completely unlike anything we’re used to. Delta-v, or change of velocity, is the most important factor…wish I could recall the books that had good space combat stuff. I think the Hyperion series has some useful stuff, as well as Ender, of course…

For actual combat, do not forget to account for the various technological advances that have been made…it’s not exactly like Modern Warfare ;)

Stylistically, I can’t really help much. Too much detail means it gets tedious, too little means people have little idea what’s going on. I’ve tried to stay away from describing combat myself… Mel’s got good skirmish combat descriptions in DE, but they’re all quite short and between very small contingents, so it doesn’t translate well into larger-scale battles.

Have you written anything yet? Might be worth it to do that and seek opinions…

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Personally, I think the most important thing with trying to write combat is establishing a perspective. As in, figure out who is playing an important role and why the 'combat scene' is even there (if it isn't essential: lose it).

That way it keeps things grounded, gives a reader a way into what is happening, and helps in keeping all the events relevant. Hopefully, it should gradually write itself from there.