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[Seracen]

Ignis Mors wrote...

About Legion's death I agree more with smud than Mr.Btongue. I think that Legion should have been able to back himself up before doing it. It doesn't make sense that Legion, a computer program, couldn't have just copy and pasted himself to a backup storage site so that he doesn't die. 

True enough, the reasoning was stupid, even if I didn't question it much.  I consider "not-Legion" to basically be Legion minus the "suicide mission" memories.  As such, I don't see a large difference, considering him a "younger brother" to Legion, as he wouldn't have QUITE the same progression in awareness.

Having said that, I pretty much have "not-Legion" in my ME3 sequel, but I call him "Revenant."  From a story POV, the Geth is doing this to show respect for his older brother program, even if the difference is one cycle of backups.

[Ignis Mors]

Seracen wrote...

Ignis Mors wrote...

About Legion's death I agree more with smud than Mr.Btongue. I think that Legion should have been able to back himself up before doing it. It doesn't make sense that Legion, a computer program, couldn't have just copy and pasted himself to a backup storage site so that he doesn't die. 

True enough, the reasoning was stupid, even if I didn't question it much.  I consider "not-Legion" to basically be Legion minus the "suicide mission" memories.  As such, I don't see a large difference, considering him a "younger brother" to Legion, as he wouldn't have QUITE the same progression in awareness.

Having said that, I pretty much have "not-Legion" in my ME3 sequel, but I call him "Revenant."  From a story POV, the Geth is doing this to show respect for his older brother program, even if the difference is one cycle of backups.

An intriguing way to take Legion's arc after he died. 

[Seracen]

Ignis Mors wrote...

An intriguing way to take Legion's arc after he died. 

Thanks!  I like it.  It just made sense to me, b/c as you say, there's no reason to assume there was no backup.  And if Legion dies in ME3, that means "not-Legion" is still around.  Still, there's that sense of individuality I am trying to foster, otherwise the death of a Geth becomes meaningless.

I really hope I can work in a good chance to expound upon his character a bit more, or that will be a character nuance that is lost to the author's notes.  Still, it's my story, I can make time!

Speaking of which, I got another chapter done today, and what I'd originally assumed would be 2 chapters has become 5+...blargh.

I am on chapter 39 at this point, and I've still got a ways to go!!!

Oddly enough, whilst writing this fic, I've been assaulted by ideas for another ME fic.  I refuse to begin work on it until this one's done, however.  Still...this leads me to...

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QOTD's:  How often do you write a story, then get ideas for something entirely different?

Do you incorporate these disparate parts into your current story, or do you craft a new story out of it?

Following this, do you work on the other fic right away, or file the ideas for later?

Modifié par Seracen, 28 avril 2013 - 07:28 .

[Ignis Mors]

Seracen wrote...

Ignis Mors wrote...

An intriguing way to take Legion's arc after he died. 

Thanks!  I like it.  It just made sense to me, b/c as you say, there's no reason to assume there was no backup.  And if Legion dies in ME3, that means "not-Legion" is still around.  Still, there's that sense of individuality I am trying to foster, otherwise the death of a Geth becomes meaningless.

I really hope I can work in a good chance to expound upon his character a bit more, or that will be a character nuance that is lost to the author's notes.  Still, it's my story, I can make time!

Speaking of which, I got another chapter done today, and what I'd originally assumed would be 2 chapters has become 5+...blargh.

I am on chapter 39 at this point, and I've still got a ways to go!!!

Oddly enough, whilst writing this fic, I've been assaulted by ideas for another ME fic.  I refuse to begin work on it until this one's done, however.  Still...this leads me to...

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QOTD's:  How often do you write a story, then get ideas for something entirely different?

Do you incorporate these disparate parts into your current story, or do you craft a new story out of it?

Following this, do you work on the other fic right away, or file the ideas for later?

heh. I've got three ongoing fics at the moment because at one point or another their beginning point was nagging me constantly. To the point where I couldn't focus on my school, or sleep, or even stay focused when eating until I wrote at least a couple of chapters. And, unfortunately, I keep getting more ideas. Soo, I expect that sometime in the next month or so I will be found dead at my desk from having tried to write five different things while simultaneously nitpicking two other things, and there will be a cat on my head for some reason.

[Seracen]

Sounds familiar. Also sounds like a couple of old RP sessions from waaay back in the day. I was about half the people in the room!

An interesting way to write a story, to be sure. Not so sure I'd like to try it ever again, as the exercise drove my thought processes absolutely bonkers!

No cat's tho, that's unique.  I'll be sure to salute your sacrifice with a 21-biotic shockwave salute!

Modifié par Seracen, 28 avril 2013 - 07:52 .

[hot_heart]

Seracen wrote...
QOTD's:  How often do you write a story, then get ideas for something entirely different?

Do you incorporate these disparate parts into your current story, or do you craft a new story out of it?

Following this, do you work on the other fic right away, or file the ideas for later?

Currently, I am just focusing on the one thing. Though, I am making notes for other projects (not fic-related). If I did another fic it might be a Miranda & Jack short team-up, though I was quite taken with doing a (heavily altered) version of Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid involving a volus and a krogan (basically, the 'brains and braun' team-up aspect). Or a detective story set during the early days of humanity joining the wider galactic community. Agh...

When I was writing scripts, I had a terrible tendency for flicking between stories/ideas without ever fully developing one. So, I had a paranormal crime drama thing, a department store sitcom, an odd couple sitcom, a superpowers drama thing and a superzeroes comedy screenplay. The furthest I got was finishing some episodes of the sitcoms and about one fifth of the way through the superzeroes screenplay (though I intend to go back to that someday and rework the beginning before figuring out where the rest of the story will go).

Sometimes it probably helps to have different projects you can switch between if you're lacking inspiration for one or another, but I never found that an effective working method, myself.

[Progman Omega]

Seracen wrote...

QOTD's:  How often do you write a story, then get ideas for something entirely different?

Do you incorporate these disparate parts into your current story, or do you craft a new story out of it?

Following this, do you work on the other fic right away, or file the ideas for later?

All the freakin' time.  I've got this big ol' file of ideas and moments that's....waaaaaaaaaay bigger than I'd like to admit. Most will probably never see the light of day, since there isn't enough time, heh.   Although honestly a surprising amount have managed to sneak their way in. 

If an idea is REALLY good, or just so much fun that I have to do it, I'll finish what I'm working on, or get as far as I can before hitting a wall, and start working on the new thing.

Problem is, while I'm working on the new one, I get ideas for the old one.  

I hate you brain.  Pick one thing, k?

[hot_heart]

Help!

I am having a character make a vulgar (and scientifically inaccurate) comment about a krogan visiting Tuchanka to benefit from the genophage cure, but maybe it's bad and you guys can do better. Just an exercise for a bit of fun, I guess.

At the moment he says, "The guy's gone to put the wad back in his quad." Mostly because it rhymes...

[Seracen]

Hmm...perhaps it would help to know who's the one saying it, as I imagine different races/situations would create different phrasing.

Still, if they aren't a krogan: "Hah, guy's going back to Tuchanka. Apparently, having a Quad is no substitute for being a real man!"

Or: "my grandmother's car had four on the floor...what's your excuse, you leave 'em behind on Tuchanka?"

Granted that last is a car joke, and a krogan might not get it.  Heck, most people who don't remember cars might not get it, but I like to assume that things like cyclinders still exist, I mean, look at the krogan battle tanks, or the Mako...wheels and everything!

Honestly the "wad/quad" rhyme works better, and is crasser, than anything I could think of (if we are going for rhymes, that is).

Modifié par Seracen, 30 avril 2013 - 02:17 .

[hot_heart]

Seracen wrote...
Hmm...perhaps it would help to know who's the one saying it, as I imagine different races/situations would create different phrasing.

Ah, true, probably could've done with more context. It was a black market dealer explaining where his krogan bodyguard was.

It didn't have to rhyme, but as you said, something crass/vulgar. As long as mine doesn't sound too bad with that forced rhyme though... I'm just pretending it's future slang usage.

[Fatiguesdualism]

Heh, I'm not good at crass/vulgar still how about:

"The f******r's gone back to Tuchanka, said he want's some real ammo for once. Yeah I'm confused too, unless you're buying that bull***t story about a cure. Hah stupid b*****d even had a transplant once, the whole quad. F****n' Krogan, most gullible idiots in the galaxy..." -   (Should point out I'm not good at concise either!)

Or:

"He's gone to Tuchanka to dip his quad in some magic pool or something. Who gives a f**k? He's too ugly to mate [with a pyjack/varren/real woman] anyway!" [delete/replace]

Probably works better with a non-Krogan character who's sceptical about the cure or just a blithering idiot! 

Modifié par Fatiguesdualism, 30 avril 2013 - 06:23 .

[xariadne]

So, random question: I'm writing an ME3-set fight scene where Tali has only her omni-tool, no guns. She's relying on her combat/defense drones pretty heavily, especially since the opponent is an infiltrator.

We know she named her combat drone Chatika vas Paus because of the battle cries in ME2, but wouldn't she also name her defense drone? If so, any ideas what she'd name it? I like to think she'd be fond of the little guy.

[hot_heart]

Fatiguesdualism wrote...
Probably works better with a non-Krogan character who's sceptical about the cure or just a blithering idiot! 

Yeah, I neglected to mention that it's a human explaining why his bodyguard has gone, but is trying to save face by neglecting to mention that he had no say in the matter. The remark was meant as a little hint of his annoyance, but I think something along the lines of that last bit you wrote would be a good addition, so thanks!

xariadne wrote...
We know she named her combat drone Chatika vas Paus because of the battle cries in ME2, but wouldn't she also name her defense drone? If so, any ideas what she'd name it? I like to think she'd be fond of the little guy.

I always thought the drone's name was Chiktikka, and the Citadel DLC was where they got it wrong and put it as Chatika (even when she's sober).

Anyway, that's a good question and probably something overlooked by BioWare! I believe Chiktikka is a reference to an older BioWare game (Baldur's Gate, I think), so you could maybe name it after a character you like from a non-ME BioWare game perhaps? As far as I'm aware, you have carte blanche, but that's my suggestion.

I'm drawn to sly references myself though (soooo many in this upcoming chapter), so maybe I'm not the best to advise.

Modifié par hot_heart, 30 avril 2013 - 08:42 .

[xariadne]

hot_heart wrote...
I always thought the drone's name was Chiktikka, and the Citadel DLC was where they got it wrong and put it as Chatika (even when she's sober).

Is it Chiktikka? That's what I originally thought, but it was spelled Chatika all over the wiki.

Anyway, that's a good question and probably something overlooked by BioWare! I believe Chiktikka is a reference to an older BioWare game (Baldur's Gate, I think), so you could maybe name it after a character you like from a non-ME BioWare game perhaps?

I'm drawn to sly references myself though (soooo many in this upcoming chapter), so maybe I'm not the best to advise.

I'd actually prefer a sly reference, though my Baldur's Gate lore knowledge is minimal. I was toying with 'Smeerp' in honor of the trope (warning: TV Tropes link) and the mabari from Dragon Age: Origins, but it doesn't sound very quarian to me. (I worry way too much about the weirdest crap in this fic.)


This is actually my first time writing Tali, and while I like her well enough, I'm not usually drawn to fic with her as a main character, so I have little fanon to draw upon. I'm also still learning my way around writing fight scenes in general. It's been an interesting experience. Even though Tali's not going to win the fight, I refuse to let her go down easily.

[Seracen]

xariadne wrote...

So, random question: I'm writing an ME3-set fight scene where Tali has only her omni-tool, no guns. She's relying on her combat/defense drones pretty heavily, especially since the opponent is an infiltrator.

We know she named her combat drone Chatika vas Paus because of the battle cries in ME2, but wouldn't she also name her defense drone? If so, any ideas what she'd name it? I like to think she'd be fond of the little guy.

I agree with hot_heart in that this is a reference to "Chiktikka," from Baldur's Gate.  Any cutesy name from any of the BW games would work then.

Still my picks for a pet name in this case: Minsk, M'bari (ref the warhounds in DA),Tee Three Em Foure (T3-M4), Jolee...there's no shortage of great character names from BW's wheelhouse...

[hot_heart]

xariadne wrote...
Is it Chiktikka? That's what I originally thought, but it was spelled Chatika all over the wiki.

Hmm, interesting. I thought I'd seen different when I checked a few months ago, and I know that's how Koobismo wrote it in his Marauder Shields comic. I have to admit that I barely used her in ME2, so can't recall the actual battlecry.

There's a chance the wiki has been changed in the meantime, or I just misread since I was only skimming for details before a brief apperance (Tali not being a main character in mine either). Wound up not even directly referencing the name after all anyway...

[xariadne]

Still my picks for a pet name in this case: Minsk, M'bari (ref the warhounds in DA),Tee Three Em Foure (T3-M4), Jolee...there's no shortage of great character names from BW's wheelhouse...

Mab'Ri vas Paus, maybe?

[Fatiguesdualism]

I'm fairly sure Chiktikka is a throwback to Baldurs Gate 2. It's a badger totem of Baervan (I think). Didn't Aerie the elf use it as a comment/battle-cry? Not sure about the spelling in ME'verse though.

@hot_heart: Hope I helped!

@xariadne: Mab'Ri vas Paus works for me!

[hot_heart]

Maybe I'm slow in noticing this but...it got stickied. Drussius' replacement Comprehensive Fanfic List thread got stickied. Hooray!

Also, while I'm here, where are you dpMeggers? Come back, wherever you are!

Modifié par hot_heart, 01 mai 2013 - 05:43 .

[AVPen]

hot_heart wrote...

xariadne wrote...
Is it Chiktikka? That's what I originally thought, but it was spelled Chatika all over the wiki.

Hmm, interesting. I thought I'd seen different when I checked a few months ago, and I know that's how Koobismo wrote it in his Marauder Shields comic. I have to admit that I barely used her in ME2, so can't recall the actual battlecry.

There's a chance the wiki has been changed in the meantime, or I just misread since I was only skimming for details before a brief apperance (Tali not being a main character in mine either). Wound up not even directly referencing the name after all anyway...

A little while back, the wiki changed the name of her drone to match the spelling used in the Citadel DLC (although I still think it's a case where the DLC's subtitles got the spelling wrong).

[enayasoul]

hot_heart wrote...

Maybe I'm slow in noticing this but...it got stickied. Drussius' replacement Comprehensive Fanfic List thread got stickied. Hooray!

Also, while I'm here, where are you dpMeggers? Come back, wherever you are!

Thanks for the heads up. I posted mine. :whistle:

[Fatiguesdualism]

Belated congratulations to Drussius, glad to see his replacement Fanfic List got stickied (pity to see lill's go though!) he must have found the last mod still keeping an eye on this place! Now just have to figure out how to submit mine.

Also can I get someone's opinion on this, I'm trying to have Anderson imply HQ's replacement isn't the right choice to captain the Normandy without him actually saying bad about them:

Admiral Anderson lifted a PADD from the clutter on his desk. “[Captain Maya Brooks?],” he read aloud, “recipient of the [Elysium Medal], saviour of the colony on [Elysium], currently the Executive Officer on the [SSV Carrier], with a near perfect collection of ‘outstanding’ on [her] fitness reports, and a former protégé of [Admiral Kohaku].” Anderson paused deliberately then added, “Before his death.” The PADD returned to the admiral’s desk, “On paper [she] seems to be an ideal candidate, I’m surprised [she’s] still waiting for [her] first command.”

Councillor [Udina] frowned slightly at Anderson’s unspoken [scepticism], “I know you and Admiral [Kohaku] held differing opinions Anderson. But he died more than two years ago and [Brook’s] career is testament to [her] skill and [her] commitment to the Alliance. Frankly I don’t understand why [she] was not submitted as a Spectre candidate during our initial discussions, before Eden Prime.”

“[Kohaku] didn’t believe in the Council and the Spectres, councillor.” Anderson replied, “he didn’t want to see his protégé ‘sacrificed’ just to ‘make nice’ with the Council.”

Modifié par Fatiguesdualism, 02 mai 2013 - 08:15 .

[hot_heart]

Wrote all over your work with my suggestions.

Has Udina called Anderson to his office for this task? If you haven't already, it could help to give little hints about his attitude or behaviour beforehand as well.

I think it works fine otherwise. The necessary stuff is in there.

Fatiguesdualism wrote...
Also can I get someone's opinion on this, I'm trying to have Anderson imply HQ's replacement isn't the right choice to captain the Normandy without him actually saying bad about them:

Admiral Anderson lifted a PADD from the clutter on his desk. “Captain Maya Brooks?,” (no need for a comma after a question mark here) he read aloud with a tone of indifference/disinterest (or some other less severe synoym?), “recipient of the Elysium Medal, saviour of the colony on Elysium, currently the Executive Officer on the SSV Carrier, with a near perfect collection of ‘outstanding’ on her fitness reports, and a former protégé of Admiral Kohaku.” Anderson paused deliberately then added, “Before his death.” The PADD returned to the admiral’s desk, “On paper she seems to be an ideal candidate, I’m surprised she’s still waiting for her first command.” (Possibly, the sentiment becomes too obvious when paired with the bit about 'unspoken scepticism' but this could be reworked as something more like "She seems to be an ideal candidate. On paper." or "Your average/Most Alliance brass would consider her an ideal candidate.")

Councillor [Udina] frowned slightly at Anderson’s the admiral's unspoken scepticism, “I know you and Admiral Kohaku held differing opinions, Anderson. But he died more than two years ago and Brook’s career is testament to her skill and her commitment to the Alliance. Frankly I don’t understand why she was not submitted as a Spectre candidate during our initial discussions, before Eden Prime.”

“Kohaku didn’t believe in the Council and the Spectres, councillor,” Anderson replied. “He didn’t want to see his protégé ‘sacrificed’ just to ‘make nice’ with the Council.”

Hope that helps.

Modifié par hot_heart, 02 mai 2013 - 08:41 .

[Seracen]

Er, I forgot, is this an AU? I'm assuming this is the same Brooks from the Citadel DLC.

At any rate, I think it comes across reasonably well. My only addition to hot_heart's comments is that last line.

My question is, are we bringing Kohoku's judgement into question? If not, it strikes me that the last line end up being almost complimentary (although I could be reading it wrong).

I might add the word "apparent" or something similar before "protege" if this is the case. You might add a line like "it takes all kinds, I suppose."

Dunno, hope that helps!

[Fatiguesdualism]

Sorry Seracen , yes it's an AU (cue self slap to back of head) I'm kind of toying with the idea of a competent Brooks (ala after her reveal) or a FShep character (prefer similar faces/different roles - also if people go in expecting Brooks to be a traitor maybe it's easier to try and blind side them) 

Sorry again Seracen. Yes, I would say Anderson's trying to get the councillor to think Kohoku's judgement was poor.  But without coming out and stating that openly (you can lead a horse to water and all).

Thanks hot_heart , should have said Anderson is in his flat talking with Udina over the comm.  Udina having just told Anderson about Shep's? (bit ambiguous) upheld Spectre status but is flat out telling him the Council won't interfere with the Alliance placing a new skipper on the Normandy.  Even Udina thinks Shep should be CO but Arcturus thinks otherwise, so that's it topic closed.
Shorter version:  -Anderson: Help!   -Udina: Can't help, and stop asking! 

Sorry stuff in [bracket] is just place holding till I can check names/spelling etc [Captain Maya Brooks?] is just a note to myself (bad habit really should stop that)

Modifié par Fatiguesdualism, 02 mai 2013 - 09:55 .