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[Khelish]

Progman Omega wrote...

OR, 3rd bonus option: FemShep and BroShep meet at the Catalyst. Everything already gives physics the middle finger up there, so why not smash together realities?

Heh, now that reminds me of Fringe. 

[Seracen]

Progman Omega wrote...
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2.) Cerberus dun-goofed and made a clone of the opposite sex, with the only difference being a single chromosome (ala Lutece twins) 

I liked the idea of Cerberus goofing with the cloning process.  I actually scrapped a concept where basically TIM did what Miranda's dad did, but in reverse.

However, this was where I ran into problems with bringing back anyone else.  Again, do this too often, it ends up cheapening the drama in general.  Still, I do like the simplicity of it, as the reality bending becomes far too convoluted, as I said earlier.

Progman Omega wrote...
OR, 3rd bonus option: FemShep and BroShep meet at the Catalyst. Everything already gives physics the middle finger up there, so why not smash together realities?

I like this idea, and it makes about as much sense as anything else did in that damn scenario! 

Progman Omega wrote...
All of this reality smashing bits just to bring Thane back from the dead is...not my cup of tea. I'd prefer if he was just a ghost that watched over his son from time to time. He's dead. He died a hero. He was going to die anyway. Give the man some peace!

Again, I agree, it's a mess to try to write.  On the other hand, it's kind of the point of that project.  I'm not a Thane fanboy, but my sister is a big Thane fangirl, so this is like a gift for her.
Altho I'll have to tell her the prospect of getting this story to work may drive me further insane... 

Thanks for the input tho!  If I end up using any of this, I'll be sure to credit you!

Modifié par Seracen, 08 mai 2013 - 10:54 .

[Seracen]

Khelish wrote...
Heh, now that reminds me of Fringe. 

Still need to watch that show!  I'm so lazy, I'm sure it's on Netflix too, yet I've still not gotten around to watching.

In other news...
I came across a link that reminded me of our earlier Canadian/Tim Horton's discussion, figured some of you may find this amusing...

Defending the Canadian Mecca...

[AustereLemur799]

Apologies for another one of my random drop-ins, guys and gals. Naturally, I have a random question.

I'm still stuck tripping over myself with my fic. I count everything in ME1 until Shepard gets made a Spectre as a prologue. Well it's several months on and Shepard still isn't a Spectre yet in my story.

But, to my question. I'm too lazy (not to mention less passionate than I was a year ago) to read through all the Cerberus Daily News, Alliance News Network articles etc on the Mass Effect Wiki even though what I'm after happens before ME2 and 3. I was just wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of any articles or hints about Saren's escapades as a Spectre (and I don't mean relating to Camala in Drew Karpyshyn's novel) - assuming that they even exist.

Cerberus Daily News had stuff on Vasir which was useful to my story, but I was really hoping to get something for Saren since C-Sec apparently had a whole file of grievances which was enough to open a case on him in ME1.

Any clues/help would be much appreciated. Not the end of the world if no such stories about Saren exist, but it would be a bonus.

Thanks.

[AVPen]

^ No idea if there's anything in the Cerberus Daily News articles that mention him (kinda doubt it), but I would think every there is on Saren would be listed in his wiki page: http://masseffect.wi.../Saren_Arterius

[Seracen]

^ The beauty of random lives of SPECTRE's is such that you could populate it with any myriad of random encounters. I think there was a grand total of one comic and one book that chronicle Saren's backstory.

Thus, barring what we see in ME1, I consider him a blank slate. The only thing you really have to remember when writing for him is that his hatred for humanity comes from losing family in the 1st Contact War.

Which reminds me, I REALLY REALLY hope that the next ME game does NOT involve 1st Contact or the Rachni rebellions...though the prospect of an alien main char is appealing.

[AustereLemur799]

^ Thank you, guys .

Yeah I know about the comic and what happened to Saren and his brother in the first contact war. The Wiki page is interesting though; I guess I'll just have to take things from there and mix in a bit of creative imagination. Improvisation isn't one of my strong suits, but I'll give it a go.

[dpMeggers]

Seracen wrote...

Still need to watch that show!  I'm so lazy, I'm sure it's on Netflix too, yet I've still not gotten around to watching.

In other news...
I came across a link that reminded me of our earlier Canadian/Tim Horton's discussion, figured some of you may find this amusing...

Defending the Canadian Mecca...

That may not be entirely inaccurate...

And I'm back - I just moved houses so needless to say writing and internetting have been shifted to the back burner in order to focus on things like packing and assembling furniture and cleaning. (So much cleaning...). So I haven't been reading either... (sorry  )

[Seracen]

dpMeggers wrote...

Seracen wrote...

Still need to watch that show!  I'm so lazy, I'm sure it's on Netflix too, yet I've still not gotten around to watching.

In other news...
I came across a link that reminded me of our earlier Canadian/Tim Horton's discussion, figured some of you may find this amusing...

Defending the Canadian Mecca...

That may not be entirely inaccurate...

And I'm back - I just moved houses so needless to say writing and internetting have been shifted to the back burner in order to focus on things like packing and assembling furniture and cleaning. (So much cleaning...). So I haven't been reading either... (sorry  )

Welcome back!  I hope the move went well. :happy:

[hot_heart]

Yay, dpMeggers. Welcome back! Hope the new digs are nice!

Quick, general query. Which phrasing do you think works best? Context: Oriana is speaking to Miranda, meant to sound a little like a platitude.
1. "Just because you think something doesn't need saying, it doesn't mean there's any harm in saying it."
2. "Just because something doesn't need saying, no harm will come from saying it."
3. "Just because you think something doesn't need saying, there's no harm in saying it anyway."

Obviously, I'm open to other alternatives too. Language is a tricky thing!

[dpMeggers]

 Thanks all. I'll let you know how the move when when I'm finished unpacking. (It's been two weeks...)@hot_heart: some thoughts

I like a combination of 1 and 3 best: something like

Just because you think something doesn't need saying, it doesn't mean there's any harm in saying it anyway.

alternate lines:

1. Just because you think something doesn't need saying, doesn't mean I (they?we?) don't need to hear it.2.Just because you think something doesn't need saying, doesn't mean it's not worth saying anyway.3.'It goes without saying' doesn't apply here! (If she's more frustrated)

[Seracen]

How about: "There's no harm in saying something, even if you think it's unnecessary."

Or: "Even if it seems not worth saying, there's no harm in saying it anyway."

[enayasoul]

hot_heart wrote...

Yay, dpMeggers. Welcome back! Hope the new digs are nice!

Quick, general query. Which phrasing do you think works best? Context: Oriana is speaking to Miranda, meant to sound a little like a platitude.
1. "Just because you think something doesn't need saying, it doesn't mean there's any harm in saying it."
2. "Just because something doesn't need saying, no harm will come from saying it."
3. "Just because you think something doesn't need saying, there's no harm in saying it anyway."

Obviously, I'm open to other alternatives too. Language is a tricky thing!

I like #2  and  #3 with some modification:

"Just because you think something doesn't need saying, there's no harm in saying it."

Modifié par enayasoul, 10 mai 2013 - 07:14 .

[hot_heart]

Hey, thanks, guys. It's meant to be Oriana talking to Miranda about Shepard (as well as her general bottling-up-feelings attitude), to give you a little more context. The advice is possibly something she got from a magazine.

I like your last suggestion, enayasoul. Just trim the 'anyway' off the end of #3. Maybe I was too caught up in trying to make it sound 'written' whereas Oriana might just be paraphrasing.

[Fatiguesdualism]

hot_heart wrote...

Yay, dpMeggers. Welcome back! Hope the new digs are nice!

Quick, general query. Which phrasing do you think works best? Context: Oriana is speaking to Miranda, meant to sound a little like a platitude.
1. "Just because you think something doesn't need saying, it doesn't mean there's any harm in saying it."
2. "Just because something doesn't need saying, no harm will come from saying it."
3. "Just because you think something doesn't need saying, there's no harm in saying it anyway."

Obviously, I'm open to other alternatives too. Language is a tricky thing!

Bit late for the party but still, I'm not too sure about the first part of 1 & 3.  It seems a bit too confrontational (to me anyway) 'You think' - I mean if the two are arguing it is fine otherwise seems a bit ?? 

So I would opt for 2 & 3:

"Just because something doesn't need saying, there's no harm in saying it." 

EDIT: Looking at it I don't think "there's no harm in saying it." sounds correct - maybe make it a question or a prompt?

"Just because something doesn't need saying, well there's no harm in saying it, right?" 

EDIT (2): Or it might just be the repetition of "saying" that's throwing me? (Pet hate of mine! )

"Just because something doesn't need saying, then there's no harm in telling them." 

Anyway crazy people say "'bye!" so bye!

Modifié par Fatiguesdualism, 10 mai 2013 - 08:41 .

[hot_heart]

Hmm, not sure about the question part, but that's a very good point about 'softening' it. Thanks!

I mean, it is a sort of gentle 'snap out of it' line, but maybe it could be a bit different. Could opt for something more like, "Though you may think something doesn't need saying..." Otherwise, I go a little more poetic and have something like, "Thoughts we may deem unnecessary to voice..."

You see why my chapters take so long?

[MrStoob]

Hey ho all.

Nothing to say really, just dropping by to say hello.  Been on a 'mod frenzy' on Skyrim and messing with ENBs (oooh the pretty colours).  After another period of the muses hiding elsewhere (elswyr...) finally wrote a few pages yesterday.  Yay.

On hot_heart's query, your variation 'deem unnecessary' sounds more like Miri to me but maybe that's just my Miranda.  That said, good luck concluding that sentence. 

Modifié par MrStoob, 10 mai 2013 - 10:29 .

[Lilivati]

If it's supposed to be a platitude from an advice magazine, I'd almost harden it into something haughtier. Like "Sometimes the things you don't say are the ones that need to be said the most." Or "You always think the most important things are those that should go without saying."  Kind of one of those thoughts that's been lingering on her mind for awhile that she hasn't been provoked into voicing aloud- maybe the kind she'd even be a little surprised at herself for saying.  Something that would shock them both a little and "snap her out of it".

Modifié par Lilivati, 10 mai 2013 - 11:09 .

[hot_heart]

Oh, I like that. That sounds really good. Thanks, Lilivati!

I may use one of those, with a credit of course if that's alright?

[Lilivati]

hot_heart wrote...

Oh, I like that. That sounds really good. Thanks, Lilivati!

I may use one of those, with a credit of course if that's alright?

Knock yourself out!  I'm so glad it was helpful.

Modifié par Lilivati, 11 mai 2013 - 01:09 .

[Progman Omega]

Seracen wrote...

Progman Omega wrote...
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2.) Cerberus dun-goofed and made a clone of the opposite sex, with the only difference being a single chromosome (ala Lutece twins) 

I liked the idea of Cerberus goofing with the cloning process.  I actually scrapped a concept where basically TIM did what Miranda's dad did, but in reverse.

However, this was where I ran into problems with bringing back anyone else.  Again, do this too often, it ends up cheapening the drama in general.  Still, I do like the simplicity of it, as the reality bending becomes far too convoluted, as I said earlier.

Progman Omega wrote...
OR, 3rd bonus option: FemShep and BroShep meet at the Catalyst. Everything already gives physics the middle finger up there, so why not smash together realities?

I like this idea, and it makes about as much sense as anything else did in that damn scenario! 

Progman Omega wrote...
All of this reality smashing bits just to bring Thane back from the dead is...not my cup of tea. I'd prefer if he was just a ghost that watched over his son from time to time. He's dead. He died a hero. He was going to die anyway. Give the man some peace!

Again, I agree, it's a mess to try to write.  On the other hand, it's kind of the point of that project.  I'm not a Thane fanboy, but my sister is a big Thane fangirl, so this is like a gift for her.
Altho I'll have to tell her the prospect of getting this story to work may drive me further insane... 

Thanks for the input tho!  If I end up using any of this, I'll be sure to credit you!

Glad I could help! 

[hot_heart]

Figured some people here may get a laugh out of this.

Don't make fun of renowned Dan Brown.

[MrStoob]

hot_heart wrote...

Figured some people here may get a laugh out of this.

Don't make fun of renowned Dan Brown.

[Seracen]

MrStoob wrote...

Hey ho all.

Nothing to say really, just dropping by to say hello.  Been on a 'mod frenzy' on Skyrim and messing with ENBs (oooh the pretty colours).  After another period of the muses hiding elsewhere (elswyr...) finally wrote a few pages yesterday.  Yay.

On hot_heart's query, your variation 'deem unnecessary' sounds more like Miri to me but maybe that's just my Miranda.  That said, good luck concluding that sentence. 

Ah mods...indeed.  I swear, I have more fun playing around with mods than the actual game itself.

From the Oblivion days, my fave mods were the companion quest mods.  Between Heart of Darkness, Viconia DeVir (and the Underworld Mod), and that female Nord companion, I must have added 20 hours alone.

Factor in a few of those, and the hours exceed 100 easily.  Here's hoping we get some of that in Skyrim!

In other news...

Home stretch time...two more "missions" until I get to the story's final battle.  Here's hoping I don't lose steam!

Currently have a dilemma on just how much I should reveal of the badguys' straits.  I'm not one for contrived "twists," so I'm eking this stuff out as slowly as I dare.  It's a difficult balance to maintain.  I want the characters to have enough breadcrumbs to follow, while keeping it engaing for the readers...

EDIT: Just found out Companion Vilja was released for Skyrim for a while now...must fight the urge...or I'll never get my story done...maybe I'll just download it for archival purposes....yeah....

AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!  

Modifié par Seracen, 12 mai 2013 - 01:58 .

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 'Getting close to finishing the next chapter of a 'fic I'm working on over at AO3 -- just two more after that 'til I'm done.

I had tried to write one last year in the fall at FF.net, but my ideas/vision for the piece changed at times and then came into conflict with the chapters I had already published. Then, vacation out-of-country removed me from the writing for a month.

When I got back I was totally out-of-sync with the writing, so I decided to call blank slate on the whole thing and move on.

That experience actually motivated me to take a creative-writing course, which conveniently helped fulfill an art requirement. I'd thought writing to be a strength of mine, having done lots of speech/debate, but story-writing proved a real challenge.

I decided to give the fanfic thing another go a couple months ago when I found the inspiration for a story. This time I'm keeping views restricted 'til I'm ready to publish it in full. It lets me feel okay about taking my time, which I need with school/finals and everything. 'Also lets me comfortably go back and revise a bit; my story has really evolved over time.

I was originally just intending an emotional, dramatic piece, but it's taken a turn for something more humorous... and racy.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 13 mai 2013 - 12:44 .