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[Seracen]

"Jubilant affirmation: You go girl..."
"Indignant Pride: there is nothing to be ashamed of..."

On the subject of downtime, most of mine takes place in the most public areas of the ship. However, for the scenes involving just the primary romances, they're usually near the bedroom. These are not done for raunchiness. It's just the hub where they relax, so it makes sense.

It's part of the whole, as the setting is just as important as the dialogue itself, the whole scene needs to flow. Case in point, there's an entire chapter that I am reworking, simply b/c the setup for the scene is poor, and I have thought of a better way to do it.

The dialogue itself isn't likely to change much, but the setting and buildup will be vastly changed.

As for the make out scenes, I tend to prefer small lines and little moments, vs the big productions in drawn out sex scenes.

I don't generally like to do more than a couple of those, or it gets stale. I mean really, how many different ways can I REALLY write folks making the beast and have it stay fresh in the same story?

I suppose I could always have it in zero-g or other such contrived scenarios, or with different [ahem] props. Still, quality over quantity, IMO.

Unless it's a smut fic.  And I'm gonna be honest, I was challenged to do one of those, I ended up writing 3 chapters of storyline driven action and plot...just so I could throw it all away on a 1 chapter sexathon, lol.

I even had some folks ask if I would continue the story.  Sad thing is, I probably could figure something out, but it was more so I could justify writing the scene at all, vs some grand design I never initiated.

Modifié par Seracen, 25 juin 2013 - 12:38 .

[Ignis Mors]

Seracen wrote...

"Jubilant affirmation: You go girl..."
"Indignant Pride: there is nothing to be ashamed of..."

On the subject of downtime, most of mine takes place in the most public areas of the ship. However, for the scenes involving just the primary romances, they're usually near the bedroom. These are not done for raunchiness. It's just the hub where they relax, so it makes sense.

It's part of the whole, as the setting is just as important as the dialogue itself, the whole scene needs to flow. Case in point, there's an entire chapter that I am reworking, simply b/c the setup for the scene is poor, and I have thought of a better way to do it.

The dialogue itself isn't likely to change much, but the setting and buildup will be vastly changed.

As for the make out scenes, I tend to prefer small lines and little moments, vs the big productions in drawn out sex scenes.

I don't generally like to do more than a couple of those, or it gets stale. I mean really, how many different ways can I REALLY write folks making the beast and have it stay fresh in the same story?

I suppose I could always have it in zero-g or other such contrived scenarios, or with different [ahem] props. Still, quality over quantity, IMO.

Unless it's a smut fic.  And I'm gonna be honest, I was challenged to do one of those, I ended up writing 3 chapters of storyline driven action and plot...just so I could throw it all away on a 1 chapter sexathon, lol.

I even had some folks ask if I would continue the story.  Sad thing is, I probably could figure something out, but it was more so I could justify writing the scene at all, vs some grand design I never initiated.

I know personally for me if fics have a ton of sex scenes I get bored and just scroll pass them after the fourth or fifth, so have to agree about quality over quantity. It's like eating steak for every meal(or something else if you don't like steak), it sounds good at first, but after a while it just gets old. 

[ShadowLordXII]

Need help with a fic idea:

Synopsis: Shepard tries to broker peace between geth and quarians after the Rannoch reaper battle and is ignored. The Geth wipe out the quarians and Tali commits suicide...only Shepard uses Dominate to stop her at the last minute and she ends up getting her arm impaled on the cliff.

Back on the Normandy, Legion's arm is use as a prosthetic replacement for Tali and she snaps at Shepard for refusing to let her die with her people. Tali's break-down and his failure at finding a third option leads Shepard shift from diplomatic Paragon to aggressive Renegon (3/4ths renegade and 1/4th paragon) as he reaches his limit in saving the galaxy and their own seeming-stupidity.

Outline for the story:
Starts at the end of the Rannoch Arc...so halfway through ME3
TalixMShepard main pairing...under fire for obvious reasons
MShepardxAshley tension since they were a couple in ME1
Different response and outcome for the Thessia mission
Miranda, Grunt and Padok Wiks join the squad
Events of Leviathan and Omega to be included with a few changes
New sequence of events to replace the canon ME3 ending and will involve Illos.
A key antagonist from Citadel will replace Kai Leng as the Illusive Man's right-hand man

So...any tips would be great, thanks.

[enayasoul]

MrStoob wrote...

Probably 90% of my interactions happen around the bedroom lol.  I think probably, in the circumstance, this is quite likely as there are few places to get privacy on ships and inevitably, down time will take place there...  And Liara likes naps ^^

Edit: I don't mean in any kind of lurid way, just that that's where they'll generally be, waking up, settling down, chilling out, etc.  And indeedly, a few suggestive words or gestures and fades to black all around!

*ponders "50 Shades of Blue" for a moment*

re-Edit:
*aside* I might be wrong, but I think Yurigirlzcrush is Elcor...

That makes sense though.  Having characters in a place where they can talk privately and unwind. 

[MrStoob]

YurigirlzCrush wrote...

*cries* why am I an elcor? the last thing any girl wants to be compared to is a space elephant! *pout*

*apologetically* lol sorry.  I refer only to your *actions* 

I actually find them quite endearing. 

Modifié par MrStoob, 25 juin 2013 - 07:37 .

[Fatiguesdualism]

MrStoob wrote...

YurigirlzCrush wrote...

*cries* why am I an elcor? the last thing any girl wants to be compared to is a space elephant! *pout*

*apologetically* lol sorry.  I refer only to your *actions* 

I actually find them quite endearing. 

@MrStoob, I would suggest flowers, that might get you out of trouble!   Also for some strange reason I have a picture of a 'space elephant' holding a bunch of flowers stuck in my head -- It's sickeningly cute!    Not that I'm calling YurigirlzCrush an elcor.  I'm not, honestly.   I'd better go half on that bouquet, right?  (Then find somewhere that can remove my foot from my own mouth) 

@ShadowLord - sounds interesting, look forward to giving it a read (though I would try to alleviate the rest of the galaxy's ineptitude with a couple of plausible reasons/beliefs.  ME3 suffers enough from unwarranted imbecility already!) 

Anyway looks like I missed an interesting topic about conversations.  There's some helpful advice there I fully intend to try using in the future, so here's an unsolicited Thank You to those involved.

Finally, am I correct in thinking that asari blood is a blue/purple colour?  It's another one of those things in the noggin that I'm not sure where it came from and if that's right does anyone know the colour of drell blood?  It's not vitally important, just I think my scene works better 'in colour' so to speak.

Modifié par Fatiguesdualism, 25 juin 2013 - 03:15 .

[MrStoob]

lol Fatigues.  And yea, asari blood seems to be blue/purpley colour, particularly from LoTSB when Vasyr is limping away and dripping blood.

Anyway, it was sort of mentioned earlier and I was wondering, and I have a lot of time on my hands these days (unemployed, not as fun as it sounds).  Have you ever tried it?  Just to see what it's like?  Maybe it wasn't as bad as you thought?  Maybe even... you liked it!

But to what do I refer?  Well as my 'suggestion' implies, I refer to 'love scenes' of a gratuitous nature.  I don't mean stuff for public consumption but have you tried it in private, just to see?  Evidently, I've had a go.  Never in a million years would I post it anywhere in the world but it is a very difficult thing to do with any kind of... I want to say 'integrity' but that seems a bit of an oxymoron if writing that kind of content.

Closest I could find:


For Yuri, obv. 
Roses are red, Violets are blue, Bibbity bobbity, Bobbity boo. (available for weddings and barmitzvas)

Modifié par MrStoob, 25 juin 2013 - 05:59 .

[MrStoob]

When I edit the above post it looks correct, but when I submit, it knackers up. Maybe it'll re-jig once updated...

Sorta fixed it, though had to delete some 'fake' ME book cover images I thought were interesting.  I'll have a look for them again, I've spent this long fixing the above post may as well go the whole hog.  









Nice, I thought.

Modifié par MrStoob, 25 juin 2013 - 06:04 .

[enayasoul]

Finally posted chapter 30! Took me long enough. Two months but it's done and out. yay. I think it's alright. An investigation type chapter but with a lot of emotional stuff/internal struggles/drama. I hope I've kept true to their character or at least reflects the kind of character I've been writing about. I personally found myself a bit misty-eyed on a few parts. :-( heh. Time will tell if the readers love or hate it. Or worse, out of character.

For the next chapter, I have most of it if not all of it written out(wrote it last year) just need to reorganize the ideas, change whatever needs changing to make it flow better with what's already established etc...

[MrStoob]

enayasoul wrote...

Finally posted chapter 30! Took me long enough. Two months but it's done and out. yay. I think it's alright. An investigation type chapter but with a lot of emotional stuff/internal struggles/drama. I hope I've kept true to their character or at least reflects the kind of character I've been writing about. I personally found myself a bit misty-eyed on a few parts. :-( heh. Time will tell if the readers love or hate it. Or worse, out of character.

For the next chapter, I have most of it if not all of it written out(wrote it last year) just need to reorganize the ideas, change whatever needs changing to make it flow better with what's already established etc...

I find that when I'm really getting into an exploring type chapter and a bit 'misty eyed', some good stuff comes out as you're really in that place you're trying to describe and can really express what you are feeling, what the character is feeling.  Method writing?  

That said, I did feel somewhat burnt out after writing a rather intense dark period for one of the characters.

Modifié par MrStoob, 25 juin 2013 - 10:58 .

[Seracen]

ShadowLordXII wrote...

Need help with a fic idea:

Synopsis: Shepard tries to broker peace between geth and quarians after the Rannoch reaper battle and is ignored. The Geth wipe out the quarians and Tali commits suicide...only Shepard uses Dominate to stop her at the last minute and she ends up getting her arm impaled on the cliff.

Back on the Normandy, Legion's arm is use as a prosthetic replacement for Tali and she snaps at Shepard for refusing to let her die with her people. Tali's break-down and his failure at finding a third option leads Shepard shift from diplomatic Paragon to aggressive Renegon (3/4ths renegade and 1/4th paragon) as he reaches his limit in saving the galaxy and their own seeming-stupidity.

Outline for the story:
Starts at the end of the Rannoch Arc...so halfway through ME3
TalixMShepard main pairing...under fire for obvious reasons
MShepardxAshley tension since they were a couple in ME1
Different response and outcome for the Thessia mission
Miranda, Grunt and Padok Wiks join the squad
Events of Leviathan and Omega to be included with a few changes
New sequence of events to replace the canon ME3 ending and will involve Illos.
A key antagonist from Citadel will replace Kai Leng as the Illusive Man's right-hand man

So...any tips would be great, thanks.

Whenever I start out doing these things, I try to create a skeleton outline of the story.  A timeline of events really helps me focus the story.  There are a few references and such that I can try to find again for you, if you need them.  I know I've posted them before.

As far as your story directly, a few questions you have to ask yourself:

1) what are you trying to accomplish with the central plot?  how do your resolutions play out, and why?

2) what are the motivations for the new antagonists, is there an alternate reason for the catalyst to exist, and how will it work now?

3) is Tali the last of her race?  or is she simply one of the last, an endangered species?

4) if so, can her race be "repopulated" thru science, should they?  will they allow themselves to be?  and what is their relationship to the rest of the universe then?

5) how will she react to anyone else at all?  I imagine she'll find a kindred spirit in Javik, more so than ever, he may be the only one she trusts now.  Maybe Garrus too (potential for romantic tension here, esp considering that Ashley is likely still gunning for Shep).

So yeah, mainly a lot of background work.  I find the rest writes itself after that.

I'm not sure about how she'd be losing that arm though, unless she had a compound fracture and the arm festered, which isn't likely to happen with medigel around.  Perhaps an explosion caused enough damage that the graft was necessary?  I remember speculation about that arm back in ME1, before the Quarians were anything beyond just Tali.

Since you will be doing an AU story, I think it'll be important to create a list of open plot threads that you will be closing.  It's also important to collate that with any new wrinkles you will be creating, how they fit, and how they resolve.  More importantly, how does this impact the galaxy, and how will it move on?

Arguably, it's this last bit that was so tricky to get right, and is why the ME3 backlash happened.  Whenever I find myself at a loss in my writing, these references help me, and rereading bits usually reignites my interest.  So long as you plan it out properly, and have fun, you should be fine.  Good luck!

Modifié par Seracen, 26 juin 2013 - 06:48 .

[Seracen]

MrStoob wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

Finally posted chapter 30! Took me long enough. Two months but it's done and out. yay. I think it's alright. An investigation type chapter but with a lot of emotional stuff/internal struggles/drama. I hope I've kept true to their character or at least reflects the kind of character I've been writing about. I personally found myself a bit misty-eyed on a few parts. :-( heh. Time will tell if the readers love or hate it. Or worse, out of character.

For the next chapter, I have most of it if not all of it written out(wrote it last year) just need to reorganize the ideas, change whatever needs changing to make it flow better with what's already established etc...

I find that when I'm really getting into an exploring type chapter and a bit 'misty eyed', some good stuff comes out as you're really in that place you're trying to describe and can really express what you are feeling, what the character is feeling.  Method writing?  

That said, I did feel somewhat burnt out after writing a rather intense dark period for one of the characters.

@ MrStoob: gotta say, loved those fake book covers!

@ enayasoul: congrats!

Anyhoo, this convo reminds me of what my fave parts of writing is nowadays, and inspired me to do some heavy writing tonight.  I have to say, sometimes I can get burned out and need time away from the story, and I think that's what happened to me with this one.

Just finished a two hour session, so thanks for that guys!  Oddly enough, I have to say...I didn't expect what eventually came out.

I know I harp on writing skeletons and outlines, but it's so easy to just make broad sweeping generalizations to come back to later.  I have to admit, I did this with the ending of my story.  I had a vague idea of scenes and events, as well as some resolutions and purposes for them all.

But, as they said in Supernatural: "endings are hard."

Oddly enough, I've been writing for nearly a year without a concrete idea of how the ending would REALLY pan out, just having a vague idea of it.  Until today, I never actually sat down and story-boarded it, b/c it just wasn't a priority.

It's funny how easy it is to procrastinate on something like that.  It never amazes me how easy it is to start a story, but how much harder it is to finish, even when you vaguely KNOW what's going to happen.

As I said way back in this thread, I USED to write in a completely different fashion.  I just had the characters and the initiating sequence in my head, and let the story carry itself.  As such, any foreshadowing, etc, was a result of my subconscious.

It's an interesting way to write, completely spontaneous.  Looking back, it's surprising such a style could produce anything lastingly compelling, but there's fun in such exercises too.

So yeah, I think this is really why my updates were so slow, b/c I was holding certain scenes back/skimming over them to come back later with the finishing tweaks.  Only I couldn't appropriately tweak until now, b/c NOW I know how it ends.

I still need to figure out how the end scene will play out (how the chars deal with the aftermath); but I love writing epilogues, so that's not an issue.

Modifié par Seracen, 26 juin 2013 - 08:14 .

[Seracen]

EDIT: [DOUBLEPOST]

All this brings me to my questions to you all:

How often do you start a story thusly, not knowing EXACTLY how it will end?  How does it affect your writing process?

For those who do even less planning, how often do you just let it be a spontaneuos story?  Are you apprehensive when you don't know what will happen next?

Modifié par Seracen, 26 juin 2013 - 08:13 .

[Fatiguesdualism]

@MrStoob - thanks for the confirmation, glad to know it's not some misfiring brain-cells!    Also nice job on the book covers, whatever happened to 'pulp' science-fiction books?   Far too many 'serious' or 'hard' stories out there! (Excluding established fandoms or fan-fictions)

@enayasoul - I'm really looking forward to reading more.  I've enjoyed the first couple of chapters but have held off reading more as an exercise in self-motivation (eg finish writing chapter X and then you can go read someone else's!  There's a few writers here whose work I'm looking forward to!   But I'm not the most disciplined person in the world and my current chapter is really testing me! )

@Seracen - I haven't written much but I do tend to establish 'checkpoints' for end of chapters and then watch the snowball effect Shep & Co. bring to the proceedings. Kind of fun on good days, but really frustrating on the bad.  Those when you've 'wrote' yourself so far off-target you have to scrap whole sections, backtrack to an earlier point and try another avenue.

Modifié par Fatiguesdualism, 26 juin 2013 - 04:25 .

[PMC65]

MrStoob wrote...

*snip*



Nice, I thought.

This one is my fav!

[MrStoob]

Seracen wrote...

EDIT: [DOUBLEPOST]

All this brings me to my questions to you all:

How often do you start a story thusly, not knowing EXACTLY how it will end?  How does it affect your writing process?

For those who do even less planning, how often do you just let it be a spontaneuos story?  Are you apprehensive when you don't know what will happen next?

Never! lol.  It really does get me into some corners sometimes but I really do like 'freeforming' when I write.  Just starting with a basic premise of what info you need to convey a scene, but not really how, I find produces stuff you wouldn't consciously think of.

For eg, I have a 'thing' in my fic that Liara, Shepard and Ashley call themselves the 'girl squad', with silly names for each of them too.  It's become quite a big part of my fic, the close bond, silliness, friendship, blah, which all stemmed from a single scene after Virmire when Ash turned up at Shep's door feeling down.  Liara is there as well and they try to give Ash some comfort.  Just the playful banter that came out of that scene formed a huge part of their dynamic and how certain things have played out.  Actually, it was integral to how things played out in the final scenes in the end.

Am I apprehensive that I don't really know how anything will truly pan out?  Sometimes.  I think that's probably why I have dry spells then stupidly productive spells.  Currently putting pen to paper (fingers to keyboard) with a few ideas to progress my WIPs that I'm liking so far, hopefully it will prove fruitful and I can get a damn story other than a oneshot updated!

On that note, yea, improv is a pain in the arse lol.  My fic The Damned has become so complex and 'sciencey' so quickly, I'm having trouble keeping up with some of my original intentions!  I do have some... just not concrete... lol.

Modifié par MrStoob, 26 juin 2013 - 06:39 .

[enayasoul]

MrStoob wrote...

I find that when I'm really getting into an exploring type chapter and a bit 'misty eyed', some good stuff comes out as you're really in that place you're trying to describe and can really express what you are feeling, what the character is feeling.  Method writing?  

That said, I did feel somewhat burnt out after writing a rather intense dark period for one of the characters.

Oh definitely!  I've felt really drained after writing some intense drama. The key is to balance it out, I think.

For example, ME3 was very... hmm... what's the word... depressing? (well my maleShep was really missing Miranda. )

I think the writers needed to add a bit more humor or 'good feelings' to balance it out more. Maybe I'm wrong... If there was more comedy all the way through the game it might have helped? Then doom and gloom.  No hope for survival.

The Citadel DLC was great!  I laughed so much. I still get good feelings from rewatching my videos. 

[enayasoul]

Seracen wrote...

EDIT: [DOUBLEPOST]

All this brings me to my questions to you all:

How often do you start a story thusly, not knowing EXACTLY how it will end?  How does it affect your writing process?

For those who do even less planning, how often do you just let it be a spontaneuos story?  Are you apprehensive when you don't know what will happen next?

When I first began writing I knew exactly where and how I wanted my story "Escape" to end...   How I was going to get there in between was a mystery.  I like to write each chapter spontaneously but I have really focused on using a word or group of words to keep me on track with what each chapter is really about.  The titles do reflect what happens in the story by what words (titles) I've chosen or what it represents to a specific character or characters.  I also try to have each chapter have a goal in mind.  

Each scene has to tell me something or accomplish something... could be character development, exposition, plots etc.   This goal/subject often leads into the next chapter where the characters might be going/doing or solving something or some issue is involved with the characters. 

I often ask myself.  Does this scene really tell me anything?  If not, I usually save it in the unused story folder or delete it entirely.  I have reworked a lot of stuff most times for the better. 



@ Fatiguesdualism  - Oh nice!  I'm glad you like the first few chapters so far... It's kind of hard to know what parts are good or what needs some work on.  What areas I need to get better at or maybe even change or develop more.  I know some of the chapters I've written are good and others are okay.   

Modifié par enayasoul, 26 juin 2013 - 10:26 .

[MrStoob]

enayasoul wrote...

MrStoob wrote...

I find that when I'm really getting into an exploring type chapter and a bit 'misty eyed', some good stuff comes out as you're really in that place you're trying to describe and can really express what you are feeling, what the character is feeling.  Method writing?  

That said, I did feel somewhat burnt out after writing a rather intense dark period for one of the characters.

Oh definitely!  I've felt really drained after writing some intense drama. The key is to balance it out, I think.

For example, ME3 was very... hmm... what's the word... depressing? (well my maleShep was really missing Miranda. )

I think the writers needed to add a bit more humor or 'good feelings' to balance it out more. Maybe I'm wrong... If there was more comedy all the way through the game it might have helped? Then doom and gloom.  No hope for survival.

The Citadel DLC was great!  I laughed so much. I still get good feelings from rewatching my videos. 

It's funny really.  My original works were very 'fluffy' and it only went that dark after Shep's death, as all that fluffy happiness stuff was ripped from the story as Liara was left lost and alone.  Probably made it more harsh, in retrospect, I really put her through the mill.


RE: Citadel DLC.  I enjoyed it, I cannot deny.  But... (yea you know that 'but' was coming) it just felt so out of place.  I thought smudboy's analysis of the trailer for Citadel was humorous.

Modifié par MrStoob, 26 juin 2013 - 11:17 .

[Seracen]

Per the current thread of convo, I think having downtime and frivolity is necessary, even in the midst of the crazy depressing war that ME3 was in.

Think on gallows humor in general, and how it's done in reaction to all the bad things going around it. People NEED to do such things as a coping mechanism.

Furthermore, from a story POV, one can't despair unless they have joy to compare it against.

The hallmark example that all sci-fi stories use is the Empire Strikes Back. Sure, it's dark, it's the most draining of all the stories. However, they still manage to have snippets of humor and consideration in between such scenes.

As I've said earlier, again and again, it's audience fatigue. However, writer's can suffer from fatigue as well, I think that's why we need to also have fun with it. Moreover, there are plenty of times where I will write something, b/c I need to, but the readers may not value it as much.

The hope and balance is that everyone enjoys the ride, of course.

Modifié par Seracen, 26 juin 2013 - 11:53 .

[Ignis Mors]

enayasoul wrote...

MrStoob wrote...

I find that when I'm really getting into an exploring type chapter and a bit 'misty eyed', some good stuff comes out as you're really in that place you're trying to describe and can really express what you are feeling, what the character is feeling.  Method writing?  

That said, I did feel somewhat burnt out after writing a rather intense dark period for one of the characters.

Oh definitely!  I've felt really drained after writing some intense drama. The key is to balance it out, I think.

For example, ME3 was very... hmm... what's the word... depressing? (well my maleShep was really missing Miranda. )

I think the writers needed to add a bit more humor or 'good feelings' to balance it out more. Maybe I'm wrong... If there was more comedy all the way through the game it might have helped? Then doom and gloom.  No hope for survival.

The Citadel DLC was great!  I laughed so much. I still get good feelings from rewatching my videos. 

Heh, I know what you mean about having a Shep that's missing Miranda. Half the time I was playing ME3 I had my Shep's voice in the back of my head asking, "Why the hell can't we have Miranda along?"
Definitely agree about the Citadel DLC, though the final bit where you go back on the Normandy makes me so depressed I have to go sleep for the next few hours to cheer up. The "We had a good run." line makes me so sad. 
As for writing a story with the ending completely planned out, I never do that. I like to have a general idea of what the ending is going to be so that I don't have the utter piece of crap that ME3's was, but I like to leave it open to have room to grow in some different directions. 
And now, for a slightly different question, has anyone ever tried posting a new chapter but accidentally posted the chapter immediately before that? (The other day I did when I was by all rights so tired that I shouldn't have been able to be conscious, but I was wondering if anyone else had that happen.)

[Seracen]

Also totally with you on Shep missing Miri (and Jack). Honestly, romances not Liara/VS get crapped on, with Tali/Garrus getting little better. I think Jacob gets it the worst, b/c his reason for not being in the game coincides with him also being a bad example for men everywhere (for romances anyway).

On the other subject, I've done a few postings asynchronously before. That's actually the reason that certain chapters in my ME3 fic have explanations as to what variant they were, so avoid this very thing.

Eg: Chapter 6 (ME2 Crew Rescued, Rachni Rescued) vs Chapter 6 (ME1 Crew, no Rachni)

Of course, here was a story that was multipath and branching within those paths, so it lent itself to confusion if not explicitly laid out.

Heck, it wasn't until RIGHT after posting that I realized I had completely forgotten to account for an entire realm of possibility, and hadn't opened/closed that path off.

Furthermore, I had an ending that nobody could get to, b/c I had not created the bridge chapter to get there!

So that was two more chapters I had to write, solely for that purpose!

Modifié par Seracen, 27 juin 2013 - 03:45 .

[Ignis Mors]

Seracen wrote...

Also totally with you on Shep missing Miri (and Jack). Honestly, romances not Liara/VS get crapped on, with Tali/Garrus getting little better. I think Jacob gets it the worst, b/c his reason for not being in the game coincides with him also being a bad example for men everywhere (for romances anyway).

On the other subject, I've done a few postings asynchronously before. That's actually the reason that certain chapters in my ME3 fic have explanations as to what variant they were, so avoid this very thing.

Eg: Chapter 6 (ME2 Crew Rescued, Rachni Rescued) vs Chapter 6 (ME1 Crew, no Rachni)

Of course, here was a story that was multipath and branching within those paths, so it lent itself to confusion if not explicitly laid out.

I know about Jacob being a terrible male example. None of my FemSheps romanced him, but that guy pissed me off when I found out about him ending up with that scientist lady even if Shep romanced him. I wanted to find a way to go into the game and beat the living **** out of him. I wanted to grab him by the throat, kick him between the legs, throw him out of the window, have the Normandy hit him with its Thanix cannons, have Harby shoot him in the face, then bring him back and lock him in a room with the Catalyst for all eternity.(Sorry about flipping out like that. I had a... let's just say a father as bad as Miri's.(Not the same way.) and because of that I've always been extra offended by dudes not acting how they should)

[Seracen]

Ignis Mors wrote...

Seracen wrote...

Also totally with you on Shep missing Miri (and Jack). Honestly, romances not Liara/VS get crapped on, with Tali/Garrus getting little better. I think Jacob gets it the worst, b/c his reason for not being in the game coincides with him also being a bad example for men everywhere (for romances anyway).

On the other subject, I've done a few postings asynchronously before. That's actually the reason that certain chapters in my ME3 fic have explanations as to what variant they were, so avoid this very thing.

Eg: Chapter 6 (ME2 Crew Rescued, Rachni Rescued) vs Chapter 6 (ME1 Crew, no Rachni)

Of course, here was a story that was multipath and branching within those paths, so it lent itself to confusion if not explicitly laid out.

I know about Jacob being a terrible male example. None of my FemSheps romanced him, but that guy pissed me off when I found out about him ending up with that scientist lady even if Shep romanced him. I wanted to find a way to go into the game and beat the living **** out of him. I wanted to grab him by the throat, kick him between the legs, throw him out of the window, have the Normandy hit him with its Thanix cannons, have Harby shoot him in the face, then bring him back and lock him in a room with the Catalyst for all eternity.(Sorry about flipping out like that. I had a... let's just say a father as bad as Miri's.(Not the same way.) and because of that I've always been extra offended by dudes not acting how they should)

Ah, sorry to hear that.  I've had more than a few family members in similar circumstances, and plenty of friends suffer from such.

I don't know how my own upcoming shenanigans will pan out.  As a result, it's been an impetus for me to complete writing as much as possible before I come to that particular crossroads.

Still, I must say, I generally don't kill off characters for shock value.  However, in my story, it's just not likely that they'll avoid paying SOME price for success.

As Jacob has failed to be a sympathetic character (quite the opposite in fact, he's despicable in the case of a romance), or at the very least, a boring one, I find it easy to let him go.

Even though I know he's not guilty of it in my current story, I am already relishing the idea of just killing the bastard, assuming I kill ANYONE off at all.  Don't get me wrong, heroes are allowed to have flaws.

But come on, if Femshep romanced him, he was without her for like...MAYBE a year, and couldn't hold it in his pants?  Furthermore, not ONLY did he cheat on the most capable woman in the universe, WHILE SHE WAS ROTTING IN JAIL for saving the galaxy, he also got the "other woman" pregnant?

Classy...no wonder Miranda dumped him.  Then again, what else do I expect of a man who acts like a porn star.  I'm a dude and he embarasses ME.

Again, I am not alone in using my writing to vent my frustrations.  It's sad, but I fully believe that the process is part of what has kept me alive and sane for this long.  Even more sad that all this agita comes from family moreso than other aspects in my life.

Still, I count my blessings, and take solace in the amazing worlds that I have been able to escape into; and hope my readership enjoys it as much as I have.  Certainly, I have enjoyed many of you folks' fine works on that very same level!

Modifié par Seracen, 27 juin 2013 - 10:27 .

[MrStoob]

I have no idea where this 'bug' came from, but at times recently  I've had a little mess with poetry (you may have seen a short silly musing I did on the MP section).  So for no apparent reason whatsover last night, I did this:

Ballad of Mass Effect

Modifié par MrStoob, 27 juin 2013 - 10:36 .