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[Efvie]

Alternatively, if naming is hard, you could refer to it by form: patches, or salve, or something.

[Seracen]

MrStoob wrote...

Seracen wrote...

Fatiguesdualism wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

Could go to Latin as a starting point?

Now that you say that, for some strange reason I've always thought 'Greek' when it comes to medicine (not sure why) As you say Latin is the usual 'go-to' language for scientific terminology and it's not as if I'm familiar with either language!

To the online dictionary-a-bob! (well to bed, then work and then to the online dictionary-a-bob!)

Well, the symbol of medicine, the caduceus (sp?), was originally from the Greek god Hermes.  The proper symbol is the single snake coiled around a wooden staff.  The fancier one with the two snakes is a common symbol, but not technically correct.

It's sort of how Romans didn't ACTUALLY have a "thumbs down" in the arena...
Thumbs (in general, though usually up) = death
Waving a white handkercheif = life (perhaps where the idea of the "white flag" came from?)

Then again, the Romans made no bones about co-opting pretty much ALL of ancient Greek culture.

It was my understanding that 'thumbs down' meant let them live, as an indication to throw the weapon down (with the thumb representing the weapon), and the 'finish him' movement was a thumb towards the chest.  The white flag I just thought was a 'nationless' symbol, as carrying the 'banner' of your nation would mean you are still fighting under those colours.  To the google-ma-bob!

Edit: it was indeed the Romans (c 25 AD) who first used the white flag for this purpose, so you may well be correct on original origin.

I've no doubt that, at some point, it was as you say, perhaps even in one of the deviations the Empire took (whether it be colonies or after the fall of the Pantheon).  In my Classical Studies classes, however, the professor presented it in the terms I previously stated.

However,  I could easily have misremembered the course.  Roman history is full of so many interesting wrinkles, it's hard to keep it all straight!

Heck, the Roman technique for Bronzing (among other things) is still a lost art.

EDIT: yeah, that's the only reason I can think of for the white flag.  It's funny, I always picture Lex Luthor from Superman II waving his hanky around @ Gen. Zod whenever I think about the act of raising the white flag.

Modifié par Seracen, 08 août 2013 - 06:27 .

[Seracen]

Efvie wrote...

Alternatively, if naming is hard, you could refer to it by form: patches, or salve, or something.

Also, there's nothing to say you HAVE to make it sound like a pharmaceutical drug.

For instance, in Star Wars, the cure-all substance was called "Bacta," or "Kolto" in the earlier lore (Old Republic).

Bacta has obvious roots, but Kolto was more derived from the culture from whence it came (an aquatic race), thus sounded more like something akin to the plankton that would likely be found there.

Modifié par Seracen, 08 août 2013 - 06:32 .

[MrStoob]

"What did the Romans ever do for us?"

(+1 internet for any of the correct responses hehe)

[MeredithvL]

MrStoob wrote...

"What did the Romans ever do for us?"

(+1 internet for any of the correct responses hehe)

If not for the Romans we wouldn't even have culture as we know it. There's no way we could ever mention ALL of the things the Romans did for us, even stuff we didn't even know we have to thank to them.

[hot_heart]

MrStoob wrote...

"What did the Romans ever do for us?"

(+1 internet for any of the correct responses hehe)

"Romanes eunt domus"

And I think it's safe to say Meredith doesn't get the reference.

[YurigirlzCrush]

*scratches head* was that a Mel Brooks, History of the World reference or something? I guess I didn't get it either. *pout*

also, does anyone know of a movie where the meaning of the flower lily given as a gift was explained as I dare you to love me? I wrote that into a flashback in my story, and after I cut that section and sent it to a friend I found myself thinking about where I got it from. i've never researched flower meanings, so it had to be from a movie or song. *sigh* I don't want to plagarize either one, so i'm thinking i'll have to rewrite it somehow, but i'm sort of desperately hoping that it's actually random trivia that got caught in my head somewhere else.because I liked the scene I wrote! *pouts*

[MrStoob]

hot_heart wrote...
"Romanes eunt domus"

"People called Romanes, they go, the house?"

Stop that.  It's silly.  And a bit suspect I think...

Modifié par MrStoob, 08 août 2013 - 04:46 .

[hot_heart]

YurigirlzCrush wrote...

*scratches head* was that a Mel Brooks, History of the World reference or something? I guess I didn't get it either. *pout*

also, does anyone know of a movie where the meaning of the flower lily given as a gift was explained as I dare you to love me? I wrote that into a flashback in my story, and after I cut that section and sent it to a friend I found myself thinking about where I got it from. i've never researched flower meanings, so it had to be from a movie or song. *sigh* I don't want to plagarize either one, so i'm thinking i'll have to rewrite it somehow, but i'm sort of desperately hoping that it's actually random trivia that got caught in my head somewhere else.because I liked the scene I wrote! *pouts*

Close, it's Monty Python's Life of Brian.

As for your query, Google suggests it is from the film Imagine Me & You. Sorry.

[Fatiguesdualism]

MrStoob wrote...

"What did the Romans ever do for us?"

(+1 internet for any of the correct responses hehe)

Well - looking on the bright side  - they kept 'Time Team' busy for a while! 

Oh -  or maybe you're talking about the 'Roman' who bought 'that bunch of hairdressers'  

Anyway thought I'd just say thanks for the suggestions regarding my quandary

Edit:  Knobbles - pipped by hot_heart.  Really should type faster!

Modifié par Fatiguesdualism, 08 août 2013 - 06:42 .

[YurigirlzCrush]

yes. that was totes from Imagine Me & You. my friend reminded me in response to my snippet of the story that I sent. stupid sketchy memory tricks! but thank you for the answer. and I may still be able to work it out in some way *pondering*

and Life of Brian. is that the one that nobody expects the spanish inquisition was from?

[MeredithvL]

hot_heart wrote...

And I think it's safe to say Meredith doesn't get the reference.

I didn't even know that it WAS a reference.
But to be honest, I fell asleep watching the Life of Brian, so I really don't know what happened during part of the movie.

[Seracen]

MrStoob wrote...

"What did the Romans ever do for us?"

(+1 internet for any of the correct responses hehe)

All I remember is: roads, acqueducts, and PEACE!!!!


EDIT: Life of Brian was REALLY wierd.  I know that's what Monty Python does.  However, Holy Grail didn't freak me out at parts like Life of Brian did (to be fair, however, I was a kid when I watched them at a friend's house).

Nobody EVER expects the Spanish Inquisition...

Modifié par Seracen, 08 août 2013 - 11:40 .

[MrStoob]

Life of Brian has consistently won 'funniest film ever' in the polls of recent years. It just mocks anything and everything about politics/faith, and not just from the era. All from a gentler perspective rather than vindictive. Plus the schoolboy Latin gags and general silliness.

"He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!"

and of course

"Spare a sheckel for an old ex-leper!"
"Ex-leper?"
"That Jesus bastard cured me, ruined me livelyhood he did.  Not even a 'by your leave', just 'you're cured mate'."

Modifié par MrStoob, 09 août 2013 - 06:38 .

[MeredithvL]

MrStoob wrote...

Life of Brian has consistently won 'funniest film ever' in the polls of recent years.

Perhaps I don't understand British humor. Honestly I never found myself actually laughing with a British film or series, a few jokes might make me smile a little bit but for the most part I don't find the dialogue to be funny, not even funny enough for a smile. Not even Doctor Who made me laugh at any point, and I love that series, but because the characters are engaging and the episodes have interesting plots.

Edit: and I do like refined humor, but British? I don't get it.

Modifié par MeredithvL, 09 août 2013 - 01:40 .

[Efvie]

 I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but while I think Python was wonderful, quoting them is near enough to blasphemy as no nevermind. Their whole thing was to do something never before seen, and never the same thing twice!

Modifié par Efvie, 09 août 2013 - 04:24 .

[Fatiguesdualism]

MeredithvL wrote...

Edit: and I do like refined humor, but British? I don't get it.

@MeredithvL  Ouch, are we not refined?  

Oh Glorious Albion,
that blessed isle,
land of warm breezes and gentle rain, 
upon whose shores have crashed,
the dreams and terrors of despots,
since time anon.
Oh Glorious Albion,
where resides,
a noble breed of man.
Gifted in wit and graceful motion,
given to strive and improve their lot,
home  of...ehm...well...
...the Deep Fried Mars Bar?

To be fair 'British' humour is a bit of a wide field.  (Wodehouse - Benny Hill - Ricky Gervais )

Meanwhile back on topic...

A quick question on the war hero background.  I remember that the war hero is awarded the Star of Terra, but do the media -in game- not give them some 'headline name' like 'Saviour of Elysium' or 'Heroine of Elysium' - something along those lines. 
Or is this a case of fan-fic/game detail merge in my brain again?

[Efvie]

‘Hero of Elysium’ sounds familiar.

[MeredithvL]

Fatiguesdualism wrote...

@MeredithvL  Ouch, are we not refined?  

Yes, that's what I meant! That I like refined humor but perhaps I find British humor TOO refined, to the point that I don't find it funny anymore.

Fatiguesdualism wrote...
A quick question on the war hero background.  I remember that the war hero is awarded the Star of Terra, but do the media -in game- not give them some 'headline name' like 'Saviour of Elysium' or 'Heroine of Elysium' - something along those lines. 

I think that they say 'Hero of Elysium' regardless of Shepard's gender. I had a female Shepard with that background.

[Seracen]

The 1st Human SPECTRE, Savior of the Citadel, Hero of Elysium, Star of Terra, Butcher of Torfan, Butcher of Bahak...

I also imagine the "Shepard/Hero of Tuchanka" and a few other titles could have cases pleaded for them (Champion of the Arena, for beating the combat trials).

Modifié par Seracen, 10 août 2013 - 07:00 .

[Fatiguesdualism]

[quote]MeredithvL wrote...

Yes, that's what I meant! That I like refined humor but perhaps I find British humor TOO refined, to the point that I don't find it funny anymore.
[/qutoe]

Oh well, different brushes and what-not eh?

[quote]MeredithvL wrote...

I think that they say 'Hero of Elysium' regardless of Shepard's gender. I had a female Shepard with that background.

[/quote]

Thanks for clearing that up for me!  (I seriously need to have my memory checked.  I mean I started off with 'Saviour' then 'Hero' then came 'Heroine' and somehow 'Lion' ended up in the mix too .  It was a whole mess of things that just snowballed in my head!)

Thanks to Efvie and Seracen for helping too!

[Seracen]

Fatiguesdualism wrote...

MeredithvL wrote...

Yes, that's what I meant! That I like refined humor but perhaps I find British humor TOO refined, to the point that I don't find it funny anymore.

Oh well, different brushes and what-not eh?

MeredithvL wrote...

I think that they say 'Hero of Elysium' regardless of Shepard's gender. I had a female Shepard with that background.

Thanks for clearing that up for me!  (I seriously need to have my memory checked.  I mean I started off with 'Saviour' then 'Hero' then came 'Heroine' and somehow 'Lion' ended up in the mix too .  It was a whole mess of things that just snowballed in my head!)

Thanks to Efvie and Seracen for helping too!

Ah yes, that "u" in saviour/endeavour/etc.  I am always of two minds whenever I use that letter.  On the one hand, I was born and raised in the States.  On the other hand, my sister was raised in the UK.

As such, I consider both valid, but it wreaks hell on normalizing my documents.


Also, I think it's fair to say that all cultures have humor that is both accessible or odd in equal measure.  For instance, I cannot understand much of the world's fascination with Jerry Lewis as some genius of comedy.  I don't really get slapstick like the rest of the world seems to.

Most of the Nat'l Lampoon fair (American Pie, Raod Trip) drunk/drug/toilet humor doesn't interest me either, yet is a touchstone for much of pop culture.

Oddly, I am more meticulous about my comedy than I am about drama.


Also, you are welcome Meredith!

Modifié par Seracen, 10 août 2013 - 09:51 .

[Seracen]

Figured I'd bump the thread.

Also, I can't believe I've stalled out ONLY 2 FREAKING CHAPTERS from the end of my darn story. I suppose I could force myself to write SOMETHING, seeing as how it isn't actually writer's block. I KNOW how the story is supposed to go.

Most likely, the life drama is driving out of me the desire/mood to get writing done. Blargh...

[Lilivati]

Seracen wrote...

Figured I'd bump the thread.

Also, I can't believe I've stalled out ONLY 2 FREAKING CHAPTERS from the end of my darn story. I suppose I could force myself to write SOMETHING, seeing as how it isn't actually writer's block. I KNOW how the story is supposed to go.

Most likely, the life drama is driving out of me the desire/mood to get writing done. Blargh...

I hear that.  I did finally get something put together for the chapter that was driving me crazy, and surprisingly the chapter after that flowed out pretty quick, but there's not a lot of blood going to it.  Words are going on the page but I don't feel a huge amount of spark while going through the writing.  At the same time, I have a huge history of not finishing stuff so it's important to me to keep pushing through to the end even if taking a break is maybe the safer bet.

On UK/US spelling, though- I live in the states but work for the US branch of a UK company.  The spelling is ALL OVER THE PLACE as well as the idioms.  At this point I don't even care which version is used in any particular circumstance.

Modifié par Lilivati, 11 août 2013 - 04:20 .

[Efvie]

Seracen wrote...

Figured I'd bump the thread.

Also, I can't believe I've stalled out ONLY 2 FREAKING CHAPTERS from the end of my darn story. I suppose I could force myself to write SOMETHING, seeing as how it isn't actually writer's block. I KNOW how the story is supposed to go.

Most likely, the life drama is driving out of me the desire/mood to get writing done. Blargh...

Or it could be the very fact that you’re two chapters from the end? Letting go is hard, even when planned…