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[Obsidian Gryphon]

Ignis Mors wrote...

Anyways, QOTD. Why did you guys start writing fanfiction? For me, it was because I hated ME3 from beginning to end, and I couldn't get the idea for Meus Mundus out of my mind. 

I started the first fanfic in 2009 because the ending of a saguek I like concluded without a pairing. I ended up writing 5 stories for that one (abandoned the 6th because I was tired), the 5th was completed in either 2010 or 2011, I can't remember. I'm currently throwing them into FFN after revising them.

Then I started on the 2nd fanfic, ME, in 2012 because I was extremely angry with the last stupid quarter of the story. 'nuff said.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

My first fan fiction was a quick one to see if I could out guess Bioware on what they were going to do with The Citadel DLC. I pulled the Xen quest off the disk and rewrote it in my own way. It's kind of a schlock job but it's up on FF.net. It's 13,000 words. It was originally 16,000 words, but I chopped it down.

Then I included it into a FF I was writing because I was pissed off at the ending that they didn't fix in the EC. This one I never published because, although I think it has some good stuff in it, the ending sucks. The journey is good though. I didn't deal with the fundamental flaw of the series, but rather it exposed the flaw. However, I got to improve my writing skills.

Then I got involved in the role play, and am consolidating "The Lost Asari." This is going up on FF.net and in a .pdf on a web site for easy e-book conversion. Granted the story is campy, but it's fun and has its serious moments.

Now I've got a rewrite from scratch of the ME3 plot starting with a couple of people picking up right after the Suicide Mission. We're disregarding every event after then. We're saying Arrival took place after the Collector Ship, and we're using canon from the previous games and books. I did have to do a few minor tweaks to the canon here and there to smooth out things and make things make a little more sense. This is going to be a huge undertaking. This time, I've already sketched the ending, and it's a matter of getting there. I did not take over erezike's project. It's a different plot. I hope this is done before the next game is out.

I will say this... since I've been writing, I've been gaming a lot less.

[BronzTrooper]

Question: Do you guys have anything that just sets your characters off? You know, something that causes a emotional breakdown of anger, grief, etc.

I tend to do this with a lot of my characters. Especially my DA characters (specifically my human noble, dwarf noble, and city elf). I think it adds another level to their personalities.

[Ignis Mors]

Gamer072196 wrote...

Question: Do you guys have anything that just sets your characters off? You know, something that causes a emotional breakdown of anger, grief, etc.

I tend to do this with a lot of my characters. Especially my DA characters (specifically my human noble, dwarf noble, and city elf). I think it adds another level to their personalities.

People trying to mess with Miranda. You do that, and you have signed your excruciatingly painful death warrant. Or, if it's in Revan in my KotOR fic, then it's messing with either Bastila(Her LI) or Meetra Surik(Her best friend)

[Seracen]

Ignis Mors wrote...

Gamer072196 wrote...

Question: Do you guys have anything that just sets your characters off? You know, something that causes a emotional breakdown of anger, grief, etc.

I tend to do this with a lot of my characters. Especially my DA characters (specifically my human noble, dwarf noble, and city elf). I think it adds another level to their personalities.

People trying to mess with Miranda. You do that, and you have signed your excruciatingly painful death warrant. Or, if it's in Revan in my KotOR fic, then it's messing with either Bastila(Her LI) or Meetra Surik(Her best friend)

Well, my Shep has some severe hangups, but he's learned to soldier through it.  As such, he only really has a few moments of meltdown, but they usually involve him destroying the source of his grief (whether via rationale or fisticuffs).

As for Revan, I can't help but be reminded of that funny comic about "how Malak lost his jaw," lol! 

Modifié par Seracen, 13 février 2014 - 09:39 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Gamer072196 wrote...

Question: Do you guys have anything that just sets your characters off? You know, something that causes a emotional breakdown of anger, grief, etc.

I tend to do this with a lot of my characters. Especially my DA characters (specifically my human noble, dwarf noble, and city elf). I think it adds another level to their personalities.

Yes. 

Shepard - She hates Batarians. She's racist. Then she's the colonist/Torfan version. 

Naleena - race, Asari: she's complex. She has a very complicated history. She hates toads... er... Salarians, and there are plenty of reasons for it, particulary STG. She won't harm innocents, even toads. She has a code. If she finds out they're STG, they're dead. But she's not a racist.

[Seracen]

So, I know a lot of folks here are WAAAY too busy, and understandably so. At any rate, I have finished editing my story (took me 4 freaking days!), and am looking for betas to read the final product.

Only changes I am likely to make now are grammatical, or perhaps the flow of the story. Still, if anyone is willing, or knows someone who is, I'd appreciate it.

Part of me is tempted to just start posting the darn thing, but another part of me wants to know if the endgame actually works for readers that aren't me. Ah well, the ever present dilemma of an author.

Now I am debating whether I want to take a short break, or jump straight into some of the other stories that are clamoring around in my head.

Modifié par Seracen, 14 février 2014 - 04:54 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

@ Seracen -- I'm going to tell you from the point of view of music. If the muse is speaking, write it.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I am writing a trance song for my Asari protagonist. It is titled after the capital city of the planet where the **** hit the fan with STG for my character, and the main synth vocal track is titled Naleena's Theme. The song is titled Etheai. I have lost my mind.

[Seracen]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

@ Seracen -- I'm going to tell you from the point of view of music. If the muse is speaking, write it.

Bwahaha, well said.

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I am writing a trance song for my Asari protagonist. It is titled after the capital city of the planet where the **** hit the fan with STG for my character, and the main synth vocal track is titled Naleena's Theme. The song is titled Etheai. I have lost my mind.

Also something I have done before.  Somehow, I've always managed to squeeze in a "songfic" moment into my previous works, and generally wrote my own songs/poems to them.  I broke myself of that habit on the last few works.

Glad to see I'm not the only one.

[Ignis Mors]

Seracen wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

@ Seracen -- I'm going to tell you from the point of view of music. If the muse is speaking, write it.

Bwahaha, well said.

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I am writing a trance song for my Asari protagonist. It is titled after the capital city of the planet where the **** hit the fan with STG for my character, and the main synth vocal track is titled Naleena's Theme. The song is titled Etheai. I have lost my mind.

Also something I have done before.  Somehow, I've always managed to squeeze in a "songfic" moment into my previous works, and generally wrote my own songs/poems to them.  I broke myself of that habit on the last few works.

Glad to see I'm not the only one.

Never written songfics. The closest thing I'll probably ever do is have a chapter which matches the tone of a song.

[Seracen]

Ignis Mors wrote...

Never written songfics. The closest thing I'll probably ever do is have a chapter which matches the tone of a song.

Sort of have to be in the mood for it.  As for tone, man...

I'm constantly listening to music while writing, so I always play music that fits the flavor I am going for.  On a few occassions, I've had a few people tell me titles of songs they listened to while reading, and sometimes they even matched what I used while writing!

[fluffywalrus]

Thanks, guys I feel a lot better now, I think the mixture of your words and giving myself time to really just relax and cool off helped a bunch.

@Seracen:  I suppose it makes sense. i mean, I've been online for ages, and I know people DO tend to be much bigger jerks when they're anonymous than when not, but it still kinda catches me off guard sometimes. I guess i just feel that there's something a little intimate about the creative process, and putting it out there for people to read, and it all feels different than some online messageboard, but I guess that's really what the PM and review system are like in the end, and that there will always be jerks. I guess I'll just have to give myself room to breathe, to refocus on what's important (the joy I get from writing and reading, the positive relationships I have with other authors and readers), and just take it from there.
Though I do sometimes have difficulty understanding people's impatience at times. But I'm admittedly someone who is patient to a fault, so maybe that's to be expected.

Yeah, the glee audience is a bit young and crazy...some of them are lovable lunatics, but some are just...lunatics. There's one really popular pairing in the fandom that has, like, 10k fics for it, and they're strangely the ones clamoring for more most of the time. I haven't even written for that pairing, and they kindly read mine anyway, and request I write what they like. Which...cool. And most are oddly nice (if insistent) about it, but some are bit more demanding  >_> However, the ones  who more commonly read and write within the characters I write tend to be pretty cool.

And yes! I love elcor, so that picture just works perfectly for me.  It's from an old mass effect valentine's day thing, I think. My friend sent me the picture one day and I just knew it had to be my avatar

@Ignis Mors: As has been mentioned by Obsidian Gryphon, I do also write for a popular TV fandom (well, it happens to be the biggest tv fandom on ffnet), so that sort of response is sort of to be expected to some degree. Mass Effect has 14.2k fics, and the other fandom I write for has 102k. I'm not even a super popular author in that fandom, but most writers who are halfway decent tend to get 3-6 reviews per chapter release.

My first fic in the ME universe had...a small (but very valued) response with each chapter release. Sometimes you just don't get a lot of interest (mine was a Shepard prequel fic with no canon romantic love interests, which ruled out a lot of readers who sort through their filters by the "romance" tag), because your story might not easily align with what readers are interested in. :\\ It's not necessarily a mark on the quality of your work, it's just one of those things.

As for why I started writing fanfiction...PMC65 told me to. That's basically it. I had a story in my head for years, and she told me to write it. So I did! And I kind of enjoyed the process, so I kept going.

@Yuri: Haha! Well, I suppose I could pay even more attention to your PMs than I already do   And I don't mind the quastions and comments, they're always interesting and/or amusing.

@Obsidian Gryphon: True enough, I suppose that with a alrger fanbase comes more people who would be willing to push for more in a fairly rude manner.
Cool video link, btw! I really liked the video, and the music was rather epic

@gamer072196: My Shep is usually pretty calm and controlled, but she tends to come a little unraveled (as in, gets pissed off and angry) when people call her a hero, or when she feels like she's failed a mission. Additionally, she has a sore spot when it comes to being romantically intimate, and if someone physically triggers her with touch, especially if she's feeling a little vulnerable after a failed mission, she'll start freaking out in some form. And if a squadmate she's close to is wounded badly, she'll kind of go critical and have tunnel vision sort of panic for helping her friend get better.

@sH0tgUn jUliA: Oooh! Music-making is such a fun process, I wish I wasn't so rusty at it. But it's such a cool thing to do, making a track for your fic

Modifié par fluffywalrus, 16 février 2014 - 01:33 .

[Fatiguesdualism]

@hot_heart:  Don't know if this will be of any use but I'll post the link anyway,

http://rodcorp.typep...s_final_lm.html

It's a map of 'The Tube' (London Underground) the dotted lines indicate stations within 500metres walking distance of one another, because the usual Underground map is only loosely based on actual geography.

@gamer072196:  I have had Shepard crying in the privacy of his cabin, but I don't know if that would qualify as an emotional breakdown (I'm British - stiff upper-lip and what-not ) - but I think if he does have a breakdown it'll involve Miranda (or Liara) somehow!   (Although come to think of it Tali might be a good candidate...hmmm )


edit: sorry hot_heart for getting the name wrong, also added the missing 'l' off the end of the link, it might work now!

Modifié par Fatiguesdualism, 17 février 2014 - 11:49 .

[hot_heart]

Fatiguesdualism wrote...
@hotheart:  Don't know if this will be of any use but I'll post the link anyway,

http://rodcorp.typep...es_final_lm.htm

It's a map of 'The Tube' (London Underground) the dotted lines indicate stations within 500metres walking distance of one another, because the usual Underground map is only loosely based on actual geography.

Wow, that' spooky, given that about twenty minutes ago I did a little research and decided where I'm going to base it.

For starters, I spotted a Priority: Earth screenshot that included Elizabeth Tower (or what most people incorrectly know as 'Big Ben', also featured in that first ME3 CG trailer with Nigel Fishnchips) suggesting that a lot of the action is somewhere close to Westminster. So I figured Covent Garden to Leicester Square would make an interesting short underground journey ("What took you so long?", "A lot of stairs...."). Then, heading south from there, I could include something about the National Gallery.

All just ideas at the moment though. Getting from one series of events to the next is the current struggle. One thing at a time... <_<

Thanks though!Should come in handy if that initial idea sounds dumb.

[Ignis Mors]

QOTD time again! And the question is, have you ever had a game that you just kept playing even though you know you should probably be writing because you haven't updated a fic in a while? For me, at the moment, it's the Titanfall beta. Just because it's so fun.

[Seracen]

Ignis Mors wrote...

QOTD time again! And the question is, have you ever had a game that you just kept playing even though you know you should probably be writing because you haven't updated a fic in a while? For me, at the moment, it's the Titanfall beta. Just because it's so fun.

Not only games, but shows, anime, movies, other books...message forums...lol.

As for recent offenders, I finally decided to hit the backlog of games.  I finally finished a bunch of Fallout and Elder Scrolls games (as I'd only ever sidequested, leaving the main stories unfinished).

[Fatiguesdualism]

@hot_heart: Well looking forward to see what you come up with! Funnily enough I'm struggling with a similar problem. I've got a plethora of scenes, but not much in the way of links - which I think is making my current chapter a bit too choppy.

@Ignis Mors: It'll be a coin-toss between Civ5 (just one more turn ) or FTL (I will win this time )

Modifié par Fatiguesdualism, 18 février 2014 - 12:13 .

[hot_heart]

I tend to exist in this horrible limbo where if I play a game, I feel guilty for not writing.

...and then when I'm writing, I get easily distracted and figure maybe I should just play a game, fulfill the need and get that out of the way.

I tried the Titanfall beta, just 'cause, and did not enjoy it. Far too chaotic and crowded for my liking. Kinda wish they'd just make a Mirror's Edge 2 with those parkour mechanics though...

Fatiguesdualism wrote...
@hot_heart: Well looking forward to see what you come up with! Funnily enough I'm struggling with a similar problem. I've got a plethora of scenes, but not much in the way of links - which I think is making my current chapter a bit too choppy.

"And then we shot some baddies real good and moved onto the next series of waist-high walls. More enemies flooded in and we fired back some more."

And thanks. Not sure how well it'll turn out, but we'll see.

Modifié par hot_heart, 18 février 2014 - 12:17 .

[BronzTrooper]

Ignis Mors wrote...

QOTD time again! And the question is, have you ever had a game that you just kept playing even though you know you should probably be writing because you haven't updated a fic in a while? For me, at the moment, it's the Titanfall beta. Just because it's so fun.

Well, between GTA Online and doing my 'I hate humans' city elf playthrough, I hadn't given myself much time to type.  I eventually forced myself to type another chapter for my DA fanfic, The Last of the Fereldan Wardens, but I need to set aside the time to continue with Keep Running.  * slaps self upside the head *

[enayasoul]

Ignis Mors wrote...

QOTD time again! And the question is, have you ever had a game that you just kept playing even though you know you should probably be writing because you haven't updated a fic in a while? For me, at the moment, it's the Titanfall beta. Just because it's so fun.

Yep!  Playing a game actually helped me a few times to give my creativity a kick in the pants.  Other times, watching tv and movies related to subject matter I want to explore etc.  Then there's the feeling that you want to write and just can't because nothing comes out... stalled. My muse did come to me a few days ago in the wee morning before work.  It was good to get that spark of inspiration and jotting it all down because I've been struggling with few parts of my story... I tell my brain everyday/night to figure it out already and tell me how this is going to work. Talk to me, characters!!!   I have several scenes written out and out of order but at least it's something. I can reshuffle them later.

I did play 'Beyond' not to long ago (late December). Finished X-COM last month.  Great game. Loved the research aspect, building up your base and team... and hitting the fighting missions.  Had to do a few reloads and mission restarts but enjoyed the experience.  I have yet to try out the expansion pack.  Then there games like "The Bureau" and "Binary Domain" I have yet to try out.  I have been playing a lot of Starfighter PVP in KOTOR... mostly bomber on the Republic side.  People are such whiners about the new ship. Learn to deal with it and get killed by my mines and turrets.    I wouldn't consider myself good but it's great when we win!  Alas, I am a satelite humper. 

Anyways, I did see a new movie "The Illusionist."  Pretty clever ending!  Had me fooled!

[MrStoob]

Ignis Mors wrote...

QOTD time again! And the question is, have you ever had a game that you just kept playing even though you know you should probably be writing because you haven't updated a fic in a while? For me, at the moment, it's the Titanfall beta. Just because it's so fun.

Have you ever had a game you just kept playing even though you should probably be <doing something constructive>?
Often. :happy:

Case in point:

enayasoul wrote...
Finished X-COM last month.  Great game. Loved the research aspect, building up your base and team... and hitting the fighting missions.  Had to do a few reloads and mission restarts but enjoyed the experience.  I have yet to try out the expansion pack.

Enemy Within is a great expansion, well worth getting.  Gives the game a refreshed feeling.  Currently just into the endgame of a Classic run through, even got my 'Lone Wolf' achievement with a kickass Assault.  That was satisfying taking out a Cyberdisk, Ethereal and their lackies with one shotgun toting lunatic. 

Modifié par MrStoob, 18 février 2014 - 11:35 .

[BronzTrooper]

You know, I'm curious: Who has written, or is planning to write, a self-insert fanfic?

I'm planning on it, but it'll be in DA:O. What about you guys?

[Seracen]

Gamer072196 wrote...

You know, I'm curious: Who has written, or is planning to write, a self-insert fanfic?

I'm planning on it, but it'll be in DA:O. What about you guys?

This was actually discussed waaay back on page one of the thread, and I hold by what I said then.

I generally shy away from it, as it can lead to bad habits as an author.

However, there is a line between a character that is heavily influenced, or provides the author their scope into the universe.  One of my first fanfics was an original character that, eventually, I realized was somewhat based off my psyche.  Of course, that was it, as the character did a great many things I never would have.

Again, if that's what it takes to get into the lore, it's as valid an entry point as any.  As Lili said, however, there is a difference between a character that is "heavily influenced" and seeing "Seracen" showing up in a story.

Still, I try to avoid it nowadays.  There is plenty of author influence in ANY character one writes, but I try to not have "writer's pets."  Creating infallible darlings is an easy way to lose character dynamic, and encourages jarring "deus ex machina" moments.

Again, for me, it's just because of bad habits.  I won't deny that there are authors out there that can make this work.

[hot_heart]

Self-insert? No way. Not for me. I prefer to create engaging characters.

And I do have fun getting inside character's heads (even if they are generally miserable). At the moment, I've gone off on a bit of tangent with Miranda musing about London's historical architecture...