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#1451
fluffywalrus

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Sweawm wrote...

I'm glad I held back on releasing my latest project, now that I know when the Extended Cut will be released and can get ready to factor in some minor changes (Considering Bioware has promised that they won't change the Endings much)

Aye. It'll be interesting to see what small changes they made.

I mean, they announced the EC around April 5th, so I'd imagine two and a half months of combined planning, rendering and dev time didn't earn us a heck of a lot of changes, especially considering the amount of potential endings they had to alter. A lot of ground to cover in a small time. Perhaps I'm being a pessimist, though.

#1452
lillitheris

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I doubt there will be much of a change, plotwise, it’s way too early. They’ve probably added a happy(ish) ending and some more closure.

And what unfortunately seem to be asinine clarifications.

#1453
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lillitheris wrote...

I doubt there will be much of a change, plotwise, it’s way too early. They’ve probably added a happy(ish) ending and some more closure.

And what unfortunately seem to be asinine clarifications.


All I wanted from the EC was an attempt to make sense of the one or two parts of the ending that didn't, and for there to be a bit more dialogue with the starkid AI. I like to hope there would be enough extra dialogue to further my suspicions that the AI is lying, but I don't mind if there's not. My headcanon is that the AI is lying, and offering up a self-serving series of options.

I can live with that being untouched, and I can live without seeing Krogan fighting beside turians on Earth, or a scene of Tuchanka with baby krogan, or even the little blue babies I kinda yearn for. I just want to know why Joker left when he did, and whether the Normandy crew willl be able to make it off that planet within a reasonable amount of time. I'm also glad that IT won't be implemented(so it seems).
Among a few other things of course, but I'm not picky. There are enough post-ME3 fics to fill my plate and make me happy. :)

Modifié par fluffywalrus, 24 juin 2012 - 11:59 .


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If I can figure out the best way to make it clear to the reader that the little bits of conflict are from a future event and the rest is taking place beforehand... hadn't really thought that part through.

If you try and tie elements together, sort of mirror things in a way. That's probably my screenwriting talking.

Off the top of my head, I'd have a line of dialogue ring in the head of a character. Something relevant. Obviously, you'd italicise it to show that it's thought/memory then you 'cut' to that same line being said at an earlier moment in time.

In formatting terms, FF.net has a horizontal line that makes it easier to separate distinct sections

fluffywalrus wrote...
I like to hope there would be enough extra dialogue to further my suspicions that the AI is lying, but I don't mind if  there's not. My headcanon is that the AI is lying, and offering up a self-serving series of options.

I wouldn't call it 'headcanon' (I hate that word), just a valid interpretation. I don't think you would even need to feel the AI is lying; you could just outright reject the logic and even their solution.

Modifié par hot_heart, 24 juin 2012 - 04:17 .


#1455
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My reckoning on the EC... it'll be some clarifications, such as who survived and possibly how (such as conduit run squad), and a few memories of friends more in line with your choices such as LI and friends (Shiala/Gianna/etc moments maybe?). Probably won't be much more than that IMHO.

And, DAMN! I'd not long started a paragon Verity Shepard play through (yes, there was still the odd thing niggling about previous play throughs I wanted to resolve), currently about halfway through ME2. That'd normally be plenty of time until 26th, but I start a new job on Monday after 6 months unemployed. Not gonna have much time to complete ME2 but then I still have to play ME3 anyway. LOL, Western problems eh?

#1456
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MrStoob wrote...

My reckoning on the EC... it'll be some clarifications, such as who survived and possibly how (such as conduit run squad), and a few memories of friends more in line with your choices such as LI and friends (Shiala/Gianna/etc moments maybe?). Probably won't be much more than that IMHO.

And, DAMN! I'd not long started a paragon Verity Shepard play through (yes, there was still the odd thing niggling about previous play throughs I wanted to resolve), currently about halfway through ME2. That'd normally be plenty of time until 26th, but I start a new job on Monday after 6 months unemployed. Not gonna have much time to complete ME2 but then I still have to play ME3 anyway. LOL, Western problems eh?


Haha, truly a FWP.
But congrats on the job! I've been hunting a bit lately since my former workplace screwed around with me, I know how great the relief is when you get a new job after so long. The good thing about videogames is that they'll be there waiting for you when you have time to play them :)

But yeah, congrats!:o

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Cheers fluffy.

I wanted to get the ME2 play out of the way so I don't have to avoid the internet for days while people put info and critiques out about the EC. Ah well.

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hot_heart wrote...

Drussius wrote...
If I can figure out the best way to make it
clear to the reader that the little bits of conflict are from a future
event and the rest is taking place beforehand... hadn't really thought
that part through.


If you try and tie elements together, sort of mirror things in a way. That's probably my screenwriting talking.

Off
the top of my head, I'd have a line of dialogue ring in the head of a
character. Something relevant. Obviously, you'd italicise it to show
that it's thought/memory then you 'cut' to that same line being said at
an earlier moment in time.

In formatting terms, FF.net has a horizontal line that makes it easier to separate distinct sections


I didn't quite go this route, but something similar. I've basically chosen to start with a certain moment when things suddenly go crazy for the characters, and use a few paragraphs about what a specific character is doing when it happens, then cut back to what that character was doing some time before. Then what a different character was doing for a few paragraphs and then what that character was doing before... and so forth. So by the time I get "caught up," so to speak, the reader will have knowledge of the events leading up to that moment, and a complete account of the events that occurred during the scene in question. So basically if you took out all of the "now" scenes and cut them together, you'd have a solid scene of what happened with that one event. I'm just spreading it through a couple of chapters instead.

So far, I like how it's working out. Although it DOES mean yet another rearrange/edit of the same two chapters i've been messing with for a week now. Posted Image

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fluffywalrus wrote...
I like to hope there would be enough extra dialogue to further my suspicions that the AI is lying, but I don't mind if there's not. My headcanon is that the AI is lying, and offering up a self-serving series of options.


I wouldn't call it 'headcanon' (I hate that word), just a valid interpretation. I don't think you would even need to feel the AI is lying; you could just outright reject the logic and even their solution.


I am not holding my breath for the EC. I had been excited for a while, hoping that they would close up some plot holes and give some extra closure, but I never believed that they were going to change anything prior to the end sequence. No additional Starchild dialogue, no extra choices, no new endings. I haven't actually seen the podcast talking about the EC, but from what I've heard about it, all we're going to get is Bioware trying to assure us that somehow the destruction of the relays doesn't destroy all intelligent life in the galaxy by wiping out their systems, and perhaps a few extra scenes in the ending cinematic itself.. possibly even a few epilogue slides, Dragon Age style.

Perhaps I will be pleasantly surprised. But I doubt it. However, since it's free, there's certainly no harm in downloading it and taking a look. I currently have an ME3 playthrough waiting at about the Thessia mission, so I won't be too far off when the EC comes out. I can just finish my playthrough and check out the differences.

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Ahhhh... speaking of bad fanfic, I posted my first non-intense (read, ridiculously dumb) one-shot.

What's in a Name? - Shepard is stressed dealing with the aftermath of the Reaper War. Added to that, she now has to think of a name for her unborn child. Liara tries to cheer her up by enlisting the help of their friends. Silly, light-hearted fluff.

It's so dumb, I might just take it down in a couple of hours, lol

Modifié par noxiuniversitas1, 24 juin 2012 - 04:39 .


#1460
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Ya know... I just can't seem to dredge up the will to play through ME anymore... however, I guess the only thing that keeps me liking ME is the universe itself and the toys inside it that we can play with.

I mean, I'm still going to write fanfiction for it, possibly after the ME3 servers are shut down. Writing fanfiction of it is even more fun than playing the games. How odd is that?

#1461
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noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Ahhhh... speaking of bad fanfic, I posted my first non-intense (read, ridiculously dumb) one-shot.

What's in a Name? - Shepard is stressed dealing with the aftermath of the Reaper War. Added to that, she now has to think of a name for her unborn child. Liara tries to cheer her up by enlisting the help of their friends. Silly, light-hearted fluff.

It's so dumb, I might just take it down in a couple of hours, lol


<3

#1462
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Very cute, Noxi. And I never got a chance to say 'thank you' for the review on 'Where Credit Is Due'.

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noxiuniversitas1 wrote...
What's in a Name? - Shepard is stressed dealing with the aftermath of the Reaper War. Added to that, she now has to think of a name for her unborn child. Liara tries to cheer her up by enlisting the help of their friends. Silly, light-hearted fluff.


'some inspired by, unfortunately, personal experience.'

:blink:


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noxiuniversitas1

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hot_heart wrote...

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...
What's in a Name? - Shepard is stressed dealing with the aftermath of the Reaper War. Added to that, she now has to think of a name for her unborn child. Liara tries to cheer her up by enlisting the help of their friends. Silly, light-hearted fluff.


'some inspired by, unfortunately, personal experience.'

:blink:


Eh when you spend time on Delivery Suite, you'll hear some absurd things yourself ;)

@liltheris and IM... cheers :)

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Oh, dear. Knowing some were real makes it that much funnier.

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hot_heart wrote...

Oh, dear. Knowing some were real makes it that much funnier.


Lol, modifications on real... real would be unethical ;)

Although... EDI's contributions most certainly are real :D

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Since we're getting into humor; I have to ask you people is a story I wrote Munitions or Munitions? I have to ask; is it funny?  

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 Just posted the biggest chapter yet to my FanFic.  

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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

Since we're getting into humor; I have to ask you people is a story I wrote Munitions or Munitions? I have to ask; is it funny?


It’s not bad, the twist is good! I think it could use a little more elaboration in the conflicts to build it up, actually.



It was really quiet on the forums the entire weekend, weird.

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I'm working on a one-shot that takes place at the beginning of the reaper invasion. I hope to get it done within a few days and sent to betas. If I get prompt responses and there isn't too much to change, it should be up within a week.

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"Cerberus was rising to a crescendo, with the percussion void of nuance."

Though I think it's in-character, sometimes, I worry about going overboard with some of my metaphors... :P

Anyone else have that problem?

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hot_heart wrote...

"Cerberus was rising to a crescendo, with the percussion void of nuance."

Though I think it's in-character, sometimes, I worry about going overboard with some of my metaphors... :P

Anyone else have that problem?


No such thing as overboard metaphors :)

Okay, so, yeah, there is, but I can't tell if the above is overboard. Is it dialogue, or narrative?
If it's dialogue, that's a bit much. Narrative reflecting a character's thoughts, then it works.
Sometimes I feel I have to hold back a bit, because I can kind of fill paragraphs with wordiness that is redundant and useless, so...yeah. But I don't worry too much about it. It's just how my creative process goes. Can't neuter it too harshly, or else I'll likely have a stilted writing style.

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Oh, yeah, the speechmarks were just to make it distinct. It's a bit of narration by Miranda, who we know is fond of classical music. I am extra fussy about dialogue (and hopefully that shows). I'm even fussy about the cadence of that example there and will probably redraft it...perhaps even including the word 'cadence'

I just worry I'll write something more suited to Max Payne. :P

Modifié par hot_heart, 25 juin 2012 - 12:56 .


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hot_heart wrote...

Oh, yeah, the speechmarks were just to make it distinct. It's a bit of narration by Miranda, who we know is fond of classical music. I am extra fussy about dialogue (and hopefully that shows).

I just worry I'll write something more suited to Max Payne. :P


Hah! Well, even if you did, it would be a credit to your abilities. I always found their games to be quite well written. Between MP1&2, and Alan Wake, they've put out great narratives :)

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Well, I'm sort of aping the original noir fiction from which Max Payne draws its inspiration, though I try and avoid too much metaphor and write almost cringe-worthy harder-edged stuff. I think this is my favourite:

'He was closer than I guessed, a fact I discover as a raise my gun, flicking the weaponlight on in tandem. The strobe illuminates his face long enough for me to see it register terror...and the bullets.'

In the interest of the thread, though, I think everyone should share a sentence or passage of theirs that they found 'risky' or memorable in some odd way.

Modifié par hot_heart, 25 juin 2012 - 01:07 .