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[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

The Wild Heart

Newest chapter to perspective. Less chaos involved, sort of depressing in the beginning and middle, attempted to make it touching at the end. Let me know what you think.

[Drussius]

I think both present and past tense can work in third person, but I do find as a reader that it takes me a couple of paragraphs to get used to present tense in the third person. I've just read so many books in third person that use past tense, it's naturally where my mind goes when I start reading a third-person narrative.

[Aimi]

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

daqs wrote...

Is there any sort of consensus as to Shepard's service history pre-ME1? What grade is Shepard usually described as during the Blitz/Torfan/Akuze? Is Shepard normally referred to as a mustang, or did he/she "enlist" with a commission? Things like that.

You can make it up... I don't think people will mind

That said, a few people have head-canoned that Shep was an LT on Torfan/Akuze/the Blitze, and that he/she was selected for N7 training thereafter. As for enlistment... everyone starts as a recruit, and Shep enlisted at 18; unlikely to have college-level education, so boot -> officer training depending on boot performance is probably plausible.

Hm. Thanks. That's helpful. I have a vague desire to make what I'm writing - a story that includes Shepard, while using another character as the protagonist - "fit in" with other fanfics to the greatest extent possible.

[lillitheris]

daqs wrote...

Hm. Thanks. That's helpful. I have a vague desire to make what I'm writing - a story that includes Shepard, while using another character as the protagonist - "fit in" with other fanfics to the greatest extent possible.

Unless you’re planning an actual tie-in/spinoff/one-shot, it’s not so important. 2nd/1st Lieutenant is probably good for the Blitz era, maybe end it with a promotion to 1st or Staff Lt. before being shipped to the N school. Then bump to Lt. Commander at the end or shortly thereafter.

Modifié par lillitheris, 28 juin 2012 - 12:06 .

[fainmaca]

I have an idea in my head I want to explore, but I wanted to ask something here first....

How do you guys feel about Second Person Perspective? Would you be interested in something like that, or is the idea a little weird? I have seen things done in 2PP, but not many. Is it just a little too out there? Should I stick to 3PP?

[lillitheris]

fainmaca wrote...

I have an idea in my head I want to explore, but I wanted to ask something here first....

How do you guys feel about Second Person Perspective?

You need to have a good reason for it, I think. It’s much harder to write — unless you’re just doing something like a character reading/writing a letter.

[hot_heart]

Definitely harder to write. And I'd be wondering when it gets to the bit where I turn to a page that corresponds to my decision.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

lillitheris wrote...

daqs wrote...

Hm. Thanks. That's helpful. I have a vague desire to make what I'm writing - a story that includes Shepard, while using another character as the protagonist - "fit in" with other fanfics to the greatest extent possible.

Unless you’re planning an actual tie-in/spinoff/one-shot, it’s not so important. 2nd/1st Lieutenant is probably good for the Blitz era, maybe end it with a promotion to 1st or Staff Lt. before being shipped to the N school. Then bump to Lt. Commander at the end or shortly thereafter.

I think Shep's N7 rise is not a straight course. There would be breaks as he/she succeeded with each level which doesn't necessarily mean a promotion. I'm thinking promotions should be acquired in the field as each officer demonstrate the level of skills / expertise learnt in the N7 program in real batte conditions.  *shrug*

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 28 juin 2012 - 12:54 .

[fainmaca]

lillitheris wrote...

fainmaca wrote...

I have an idea in my head I want to explore, but I wanted to ask something here first....

How do you guys feel about Second Person Perspective?

You need to have a good reason for it, I think. It’s much harder to write — unless you’re just doing something like a character reading/writing a letter.

I'm trying to keep info about it cryptic, but your example is... similar. Its an idea I've been toying with since last week, when I was playing through ME2's Suicide Mission again.

[noxiuniversitas1]

fainmaca wrote...

I have an idea in my head I want to explore, but I wanted to ask something here first....

How do you guys feel about Second Person Perspective? Would you be interested in something like that, or is the idea a little weird? I have seen things done in 2PP, but not many. Is it just a little too out there? Should I stick to 3PP?

Hmm the closest I've come to that is addressing in the stories which I've written from the first-person perspective. Shepard is never adressed in the third person, and pretty much all reference to him/her are direct addressals / 'you'. I think writing in 2pp can be immensely powerful it well done, so you should give it a go

[fainmaca]

@noxi: Thanks for the vote of confidence! I'll give it a go over the weekend, see if that confidence is misplaced or not...

[Sialater]

Icyflare wrote...

I may be wrong (and hopefully, I am), but if the Destroy wave does wipe EDI's software if not remove her altogether, then we may rebuilt the AI that navigates the Normandy but not get EDI herself.

EDI was built from Reaper tech; her memories of the Normandy and her experiences with Shepard and the crew have shaped her. Even if she could be rebuilt again, her memory and personality would be blank. She would no longer be EDI but just an AI with EDI's voice. Everything that she learned that made her unique would be eliminated. We can rebuild the ship, but we can't get back EDI. She'd be as gone as Legion.

EDI herself was never Reaper tech.  She reached consciousness on Luna.  She's entirely human-built.  Her cyberwarefare suite IS Reaper tech.  This is why I don't get WHY she has to die.  I mean, maybe her remote body dies, but she herself as part of the ship?  

Hell, the thannix canon is Reaper tech.  Why doesn't it blow up for that matter?

[Sialater]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

daqs wrote...

Hm. Thanks. That's helpful. I have a vague desire to make what I'm writing - a story that includes Shepard, while using another character as the protagonist - "fit in" with other fanfics to the greatest extent possible.

Unless you’re planning an actual tie-in/spinoff/one-shot, it’s not so important. 2nd/1st Lieutenant is probably good for the Blitz era, maybe end it with a promotion to 1st or Staff Lt. before being shipped to the N school. Then bump to Lt. Commander at the end or shortly thereafter.

I think Shep's N7 rise is not a straight course. There would be breaks as he/she succeeded with each level which doesn't necessarily mean a promotion. I'm thinking promotions should be acquired in the field as each officer demonstrate the level of skills / expertise learnt in the N7 program in real batte conditions.  *shrug*

The problem with Shepard's promotional path is that BW doesn't seem to be following Earth military traditions in ranks. 

So, I sent Meghan to an academy (I called it Grissom -- doesn't have to be the one that's in game) where she got her implants, got an education, and learned to control her biotics and came out a 2nd lieutenant.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Sialater wrote...

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

daqs wrote...

Hm. Thanks. That's helpful. I have a vague desire to make what I'm writing - a story that includes Shepard, while using another character as the protagonist - "fit in" with other fanfics to the greatest extent possible.

Unless you’re planning an actual tie-in/spinoff/one-shot, it’s not so important. 2nd/1st Lieutenant is probably good for the Blitz era, maybe end it with a promotion to 1st or Staff Lt. before being shipped to the N school. Then bump to Lt. Commander at the end or shortly thereafter.

I think Shep's N7 rise is not a straight course. There would be breaks as he/she succeeded with each level which doesn't necessarily mean a promotion. I'm thinking promotions should be acquired in the field as each officer demonstrate the level of skills / expertise learnt in the N7 program in real batte conditions.  *shrug*

The problem with Shepard's promotional path is that BW doesn't seem to be following Earth military traditions in ranks. 

So, I sent Meghan to an academy (I called it Grissom -- doesn't have to be the one that's in game) where she got her implants, got an education, and learned to control her biotics and came out a 2nd lieutenant.

Say 2 years total. 18 when she went in, 20 when she graduated. So in 8 years, Shep made N7 with the rank of Cmdr. .... yeah, it's Capitaine Kirk all over again.   Getting tired of BW. They really messed up from since day 1 in devopement years ago.     aaaarrrghhhh  I'm nitpicking I know but I like stories to be at least ... orderly fundamentally..   ... wait.... what ...

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 28 juin 2012 - 02:48 .

[hot_heart]

Ah. After a few weeks of consideration I may have found a way for my story to work finally!

Spent so long tying myself up in knots and slowing progress that it feels great to almost have it in order. And it'll be fun sharing it and, hopefully, surprising a few people along the way. I always enjoy that the most.

...I really am dreadful with plotting and I do tend to 'eat' through a lot of it rather quickly.

Anyway, related to reasons above, here's an open question: why do you write?

[lillitheris]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

daqs wrote...

Hm. Thanks. That's helpful. I have a vague desire to make what I'm writing - a story that includes Shepard, while using another character as the protagonist - "fit in" with other fanfics to the greatest extent possible.

Unless you’re planning an actual tie-in/spinoff/one-shot, it’s not so important. 2nd/1st Lieutenant is probably good for the Blitz era, maybe end it with a promotion to 1st or Staff Lt. before being shipped to the N school. Then bump to Lt. Commander at the end or shortly thereafter.

I think Shep's N7 rise is not a straight course. There would be breaks as he/she succeeded with each level which doesn't necessarily mean a promotion. I'm thinking promotions should be acquired in the field as each officer demonstrate the level of skills / expertise learnt in the N7 program in real batte conditions.  *shrug*

Sure, but there weren’t that many shooting wars in the middle, but there may have been special forces missions, certainly, in addition to just regular postings…I’d say getting from N1 to N7 is probably 5ish years on the low end? It could also be that Shepard is just exceptional enough to pass through a bit faster…

[hot_heart]

Shepard could've been on some fast-track promotion scheme or something?

[dpMeggers]

daqs wrote...

Is there any sort of consensus as to Shepard's service history pre-ME1? What grade is Shepard usually described as during the Blitz/Torfan/Akuze? Is Shepard normally referred to as a mustang, or did he/she "enlist" with a commission? Things like that.

I have it written that Damon (who is the only one I've bothered with headcanoning at this point) enlisted, was mustanged (-ish) and then was offered N-training in '75. During the Blitz he was Lieutenant Shepard, N4 (I havn't decided). By Akuze I think he's going to be Staff Lieutenant Shepard, N6. But I havn't gotten there yet so we'll see.

Edit: Regarding how long it takes to finish N7. Now, they've probably changed it some since Anderson went through, but in the prologue of the first book, Anderson was a 20 year old Lieutenant and one of the first N7s (simultaneously). So I don't know that it takes that long from N1-N7 if you're hella badass like Anderson and Shepard.

Modifié par dpMeggers, 28 juin 2012 - 03:42 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

That meant Anderson went into the N7 program (which meant the Alliance was trying out a new training doctrine) the moment he enlisted in OCS. He must have graded very high in the initial assessment. Then it's also possible for Shepard since the experiment went off successfully with the first batch. So it seems they also recruit trainess straight from OCS.

I actually skipped any mention of N7 for my fanfic because I'm using the Akuze background. Too, as noted before, the Alliance is a damn hybrid. I couldn't make heads or tails between marines and navy officers because BW never defined it clearly. Hene, I just throw hints that Shep went for further training after the Akuze incident and finished at that. But not before I bump her to captain after the Reaper War. Major/Captain? Frack, I don't wanna crack my head.  

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 28 juin 2012 - 04:01 .

[Sialater]

hot_heart wrote...

Anyway, related to reasons above, here's an open question: why do you write?

I have no choice.  The voices demand it.

Joking aside, I've told stories in one way or another for as long as I can remember.  Barbies were my original source material.  I didn't just play with their hair or give them babies.  My barbies were spies and astronauts, teachers and doctors, soldiers (really wished they made guns for Barbies, but they'd probably end up pink.  Just can't handle the thought of a pink M-16) and sailors.

When I was 12, I tried to write my first story.  A little girl and her friends stop an alien invasion.  How they were going to do this, I was a little fuzzy on it... but by golly, she was going to do it.

When I was 16, I concieved my first fantasy world.  Which I still write in to this day.  I mark this age as when I first wanted to be a writer and when I first started.  

Got to college and majored in Creative Writing.  Nothing is more painful than having your work torn apart to your face.  The internet is MILD compared to that.

All in all, it's been my cure for depression, nightmares, boredom, and out and out anger for as long as I can remember.  It works better than anti-depressants.  At least for me.  

[dpMeggers]

hot_heart wrote...

Ah. After a few weeks of consideration I may have found a way for my story to work finally!

Spent so long tying myself up in knots and slowing progress that it feels great to almost have it in order. And it'll be fun sharing it and, hopefully, surprising a few people along the way. I always enjoy that the most.

...I really am dreadful with plotting and I do tend to 'eat' through a lot of it rather quickly.

Anyway, related to reasons above, here's an open question: why do you write?

When I first started writing period? It was as an adolescent and it was to get everything out of my system because I'm very poor at expressing myself verbally.

When I first started writing fanfic? It was after DA2, and I'd just run through with what would become one of my canon Hawkes (I generally have multiple canons and then a few playthroughs that didn't work out). I was struck by how we had an adult character whose past we knew a little of but not a whole lot. So The Why/Musings came out of me wanting to explore 'Where did this person come from? How do they feel about all this **** that they're going through?"

Those questions are basically what drives me to write. Filling in the gaps in our knowledge about this blank slate called the 'Player Character.' It's one of the reasons I'll never write a Gears of War fic. The details for them are already drawn out. I know that Baird hates his parents and why, and how he and Cole and Marcus and Dom became friends etc. Am I inspired by that universe? Hell yes, it's kinda awesome (I play Gears for the story and relationships! Not the gameplay. Even if the shotgun is incredibly cathartic at times.) Is there enough mystery for me to write about? No.

As for why I continue to write. In some ways I'm still trying to get everything out of my system - starting with nebulous answers to the 'who is this person' and pulling them together to form a mostly coherent whole is gratifying. And then the characters become a little more real, and I keep writing for them too, and they start to dictate the path of the writing. They reject nicknames they don't like. They dye their hair when I don't expect them to. They reject promotions for horribly noble reasons. Hell they *spoilers* get adopted by hookers. Sure I wrote all that stuff, but it wasn't my idea. It was the characters dictating how they wanted to live.

And also the feedback. Not in an ego-gratifying, back-pat, well-done girly kind of way. But hearing from people who are fans of the universe that we get to muddle about in and comparing our interpretations of the same universe and reading about what their characters do when faced with a similar situation to mine (because they've all been in similar situations). So I guess that's less feedback and more for the community. I write becuase I like the people who also write and I like that for the most part we can sit around together (figuratively) and jabber to each other about 'oh hey I like the radio chatter there' and 'hahaha your Shepard's and awesome drunk' and 'wth who gets that kind of a tattoo' and 'oh so that's why s/he enlisted/joined a gang/did that thing.'

The feedback is nice too.

[noxiuniversitas1]

Sialater wrote...
Joking aside, I've told stories in one way or another for as long as I can remember.  Barbies were my original source material.  I didn't just play with their hair or give them babies.  My barbies were spies and astronauts, teachers and doctors, soldiers (really wished they made guns for Barbies, but they'd probably end up pink.  Just can't handle the thought of a pink M-16) and sailors.

You want more?

Made me chuckle

[Obsidian Gryphon]

hot_heart wrote...

Ah. After a few weeks of consideration I may have found a way for my story to work finally!

Spent so long tying myself up in knots and slowing progress that it feels great to almost have it in order. And it'll be fun sharing it and, hopefully, surprising a few people along the way. I always enjoy that the most.

...I really am dreadful with plotting and I do tend to 'eat' through a lot of it rather quickly.

Anyway, related to reasons above, here's an open question: why do you write?

I didn't notice the question. Sorry.

I'm relatively new to fanfic. ME isn't my first fanfic. I wrote something two years ago because I was not satisfied with the conclusion of a Korean historical drama series. So I wrote several fanfics (100 chapters) on it to continue the story of the chars. Took 2 years. I thought that was it.

But then ME 3 came along and I was pissed.   Very unhappy, I refused to accept the s**** given out and thought I would make it different.

So why do I write? To undo the mistakes done to good stories and chars.  

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 28 juin 2012 - 04:10 .

[Ursakar]

hot_heart wrote...

Anyway, related to reasons above, here's an open question: why do you write?

I started writing because I had a story in my mind and I wanted to share it with others. I actually never had any experience in writing before. One day when I wasn't able to contain the story inside my head any longer I just came home, sat down and started writing.

I still remember the dread that filled me when I actually posted the first chapter. I mean it's one thing when you write in your own language and it's completely another thing when you write in the language that is not your native. I remember receiving my first review and it was a criticizing one. The guy said that the story was okay but my grammar was rubbish. I thanked him but then I almost deleted the story because I thought that I should improve my grammar before trying to write again. But then I decided to buy myself a spellchecking software (Ginger) and it helped me improve my writing to a point where it was acceptable. Then other reviews started appearing. People were saying that they liked the story and it inspired me to continue writing.

I write mostly for fun because when I started writing I found out that I enjoy telling the stories to other people. And it might sound a bit egotistical but I like feeling appreciated for a job well done. Every time I receive a review, I feel all warm and fuzzy.

[Sialater]

Oh, well, I guess I didn't say why I started writing Fic.

I'd just ended a 4 year dry spell. I'd actually be considering giving up writing for good. I was THAT dry. The novel I'd been working on for that period really sucked. (In hindsight, it doesn't.) And I'd had no new ideas in that long period of time.

Then, one day after cleaning my house, I got hit with a flash of inspiration about an urban fantasy world. I'd just finished my first run of DA:O. And right after that, I had a nightmare that demanded I write it down about rescuing Alistair from the Grey Wardens who were pissed about the Dark Ritual. (Alistair bore an uncanny resemblance to my husband in this -- it was a bit odd.)

Now, while I'd been working on that novel that never went anywhere, I'd squashed all ideas that weren't related to that novel. Any other story ideas, any snippets, whatever. At least, that's what I'd done in the beginning. After a while, I guess that part of me that generates ideas kinda gave up in frustration.

So, when I got the idea for the DA:O fic, I went ahead and wrote it. It was a writing exercise. A way to keep the muse engaged while I worked on the "real" stuff.

And it worked. I've got five novels in progress, I finished the urban fantasy novel and I'm revising it for sale. I've got four fic projects in progress. I write about 2000 words a day across the disparate stories. It gets a little challenging to keep up with all the worlds, but I take a lot of notes.