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[noxiuniversitas1]

If there's a writer's hell, I'm surely going to it, hahaha


Edit: @MrStoob hmm, maybe - <1.5k words could work. I'm usually terrible with prompts, though... I look at them and just draw a blank.

Modifié par noxiuniversitas1, 01 juillet 2012 - 12:27 .

[fluffywalrus]

I'm generally very easy to please, so my reviews tend to be all happy, positive and flowery. Sometimes I feel bad that I can't find a way to improve a story, because I desperately want to do more than a glorified "Good job!", but I'm just not that critical if the story is one I can immerse myself into. If I can view the world in my mind, feel the emotions running through the characters, and enjoy the total experience, then I generally find it incredibly difficult to complain, only offering spelling/grammar corrections. It bugs me, but I guess it helps me enjoy the stories too.

So yeah, tl;dr, I dislike the fact that I find it difficult to be constructive of stories I really enjoy.

[noxiuniversitas1]

fluffywalrus wrote...

I'm generally very easy to please, so my reviews tend to be all happy, positive and flowery. Sometimes I feel bad that I can't find a way to improve a story, because I desperately want to do more than a glorified "Good job!", but I'm just not that critical if the story is one I can immerse myself into. If I can view the world in my mind, feel the emotions running through the characters, and enjoy the total experience, then I generally find it incredibly difficult to complain, only offering spelling/grammar corrections. It bugs me, but I guess it helps me enjoy the stories too.

So yeah, tl;dr, I dislike the fact that I find it difficult to be constructive of stories I really enjoy.

Actually, I find all your feedback constructive and helpful. It's actually helped me spot plot holes I didn't think of because of whatever I have in my head which didn't quite make it to the published document.

So... thank you Have a feast on me for all your hard work

Modifié par noxiuniversitas1, 01 juillet 2012 - 12:38 .

[Spiritwolf1]

Mmmmm egg salad sandwich and
Strawberry tarts .....

[MrStoob]

mmmmmmmm, buffet... ye cannae beat a buffet. Jubilee celebrations was it? And Bombay Sapphire to boot, nice.

[Spiritwolf1]

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

If there's a writer's hell, I'm surely going to it, hahaha


Edit: @MrStoob hmm, maybe - <1.5k words could work. I'm usually terrible with prompts, though... I look at them and just draw a blank.

Im on my iPod so reviews on ff.net are hard but I just read you short and all I can say is wow how beautifully done that was. It was short but full of talent. Keep up the good work

[noxiuniversitas1]

Yeah, wouldn't be caught dead waving the Union Jack otherwise

[noxiuniversitas1]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

If there's a writer's hell, I'm surely going to it, hahaha


Edit: @MrStoob hmm, maybe - <1.5k words could work. I'm usually terrible with prompts, though... I look at them and just draw a blank.

Im on my iPod so reviews on ff.net are hard but I just read you short and all I can say is wow how beautifully done that was. It was short but full of talent. Keep up the good work

Ah no worries, mate, take your time and read when you get time later

Yeah, Empty and 15 Seconds are really short. Forever As One is longer, though, but I wouldn't read it if you're about to eat... it's so sappy it might put you off yer food

[hot_heart]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...
I was always taught that if you have to explain what you write, then perhaps you need to re write it.

In saying this I don't write scathing reviews. There is always positive when I throw out negative... Is just this my beef or does anyone share it.

I don't think there's any point in only being negative. Even if you're just preparing for the "but..." afterwards, it probably makes it easier for the autor to digest overall.

And I mostly agree with the explain thing, even if it's not a complete rewrite, you might be able to clarify something. In one chapter I had Miranda using a scavenged gun bought from a duct rat while on the Citadel, and someone was confused about why I had written in a gun with only one shot (despite naming the type). Mostly, I blame the lore for muddling things about thermal clips, but I just added in a line or two about where the gun may have come from and the capacity issue. Didn't want to go over-the-top with explanation, but I kept it in-character and I think it worked.


Oh, and since you're 'here', nox. I've been reading Nova et Vetera and I don't really have any major complaints at all. Been really good so far. I think maybe a missing comma or 'and' somewhere and a sentence I would've altered slightly ('kicking the last one's legs out from under him with a sweep of her leg' in ch 4. I would've based something around 'sweeping' rather than kicking with a sweep)

And Shepard uses singularity and charge? Before ME1 as well! That's cheating.

Modifié par hot_heart, 01 juillet 2012 - 12:53 .

[lillitheris]

fluffywalrus wrote...

I'm generally very easy to please, so my reviews tend to be all happy, positive and flowery. Sometimes I feel bad that I can't find a way to improve a story, because I desperately want to do more than a glorified "Good job!", but I'm just not that critical if the story is one I can immerse myself into. If I can view the world in my mind, feel the emotions running through the characters, and enjoy the total experience, then I generally find it incredibly difficult to complain, only offering spelling/grammar corrections. It bugs me, but I guess it helps me enjoy the stories too.

So yeah, tl;dr, I dislike the fact that I find it difficult to be constructive of stories I really enjoy.

Anything beyond ‘great’ is always a good thing; you leave fun notes even on the positive ones, they’re good for discussion or sometimes highlight things that were more accidental but work well enough to maybe use some further exploration.

Chapterwise reviewing is very useful…if you often leave more substantial criticism, you can more freely leave positive short notes when there’s no call for more. One thing I try to do is jot some thoughts on the storylines and where they might be going; this might give ideas, challenge assumptions, and so on.

[noxiuniversitas1]

hot_heart wrote...
Oh, and since you're 'here', nox. I've been reading Nova et Vetera and I don't really have any major complaints at all. Been really good so far. I think maybe a missing comma or 'and' somewhere and a sentence I would've altered slightly ('kicking the last one's legs out from under him with a sweep of her leg' in ch 4. I would've based something around 'sweeping' rather than kicking with a sweep)

And Shepard uses singularity and charge? Before ME1 as well! That's cheating.

Ahahha, yeah, well, she's badass like that
Although her liberal use of biotic abilities are kind of compensated for by... Err, well, you'll see
That said, I'm now going to banish myself from BSN until these last 1k words are written
Have fun

PS: thanks for reading - glad you're liking it so far
Edit: oh, and since it's you, I will say that despite it being ME1, Miranda makes an appearance

Modifié par noxiuniversitas1, 01 juillet 2012 - 01:04 .

[Spiritwolf1]

hot_heart wrote...

Spiritwolf1 wrote...
I was always taught that if you have to explain what you write, then perhaps you need to re write it.

In saying this I don't write scathing reviews. There is always positive when I throw out negative... Is just this my beef or does anyone share it.

I don't think there's any point in only being negative. Even if you're just preparing for the "but..." afterwards, it probably makes it easier for the autor to digest overall.

I guess negative was the wrong word, I guess i meant more of constructive critism. I know that I hope, that if I need it, I get some. If I have something that is slightly off in my story or that people don't understand and think they need to, I can more then calrify it in my story. It would be nice to know that mistake is there and perhaps a suggestion or two on how to better it.

Or if I do something completely dumb please tell me and I can see what I can do about making it better. I love suggestions and helpful hints even if they do come in the constructive critism way.

[hot_heart]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...
I guess negative was the wrong word, I guess i meant more of constructive critism.

Oh, no, I knew what you meant. I was agreeing.

Guess I needed to explain myself.

[LanceSolous13]

MrStoob wrote...

As I've said before, I participate in a monthly music challenge (usually I do, I was a bit busy with a new job this month and missed it). Our hostess sets a musical style/premise and we write accordingly. It's not a competition, just a group of artists making and sharing their interpretations.

I was wondering if the group would be interested in doing something similar for FF?

A premise or title is set and we all write a short story to that. Just broad stuff like 'Red Letter Day', 'Down time', 'Message in a bottle' or 'Wrex's secret' where everyone can make it their own. I think it'd be interesting to see everyone's different takes on the same premise. It'd probably be best to keep them to short or one-shot stories, as reading through them all would be quite time consuming.

Would anyone be up for it?

I'd love to join in.

*one month later*

Ugh. I'm too lazy....

XD I'm sorry, but I'm horrible at keeping on top of these things. I'd love to do so, but I'd probably forget or get busy or just generally be a bit lazy about it. lol

[dpMeggers]

 Why does everyone post while I'm sleeping??? I must live in the wrong timezone. (I don't) Also Hooray for Canada Day. 

Responding in reverse order:

@ Mr. Stoob: In an ideal world where I could get up enough creative energy to finish my own fics, I would be interested. In this reality, I know that I'll never actually respond to the prompt.

Regarding the reviews discussion: I generally leave specifics about what I liked, so 'oh it's cool that your Shepard knows how to cook so well.' Or 'Wow, your Shepard is kind of insane (in a hilarious way)'  Generally if I have constructive criticism to offer I like to follow one of two formats: compliment sandwich (compliment-criticism-compliment) or two stars and a  wish (compliment-compliment-criticism).

I also don't get a great deal of reviews. I know people are reading my fics, I just don't know what they think about it. On the bright side I've never had a (as fluffywalrus put it) 'this sucks, die in a fire' review.

And I'm wondering are jerk-reviews evenly distributed or are certain fandoms more likely to wind up with jerk-reviews? (Anyone up for a little statistical analysis?)

Re: Selective foetal effect/Eezo. Eezo exposure sort of reminds me of (as someone has said before) drinking while pregnant, but also thalidomide. "Wonder drug" women take for morning sickness, no negative effects for them, a good chunk of the babies wind up with missing limbs, toes/fingers in weird places etc.

Also reminds me a bit of a symbiotic parasite (when it goes right). Sort of latches on to the host and feeds off of it while allowing the host to manipulate physics. 

Re: Chapters going somewhere you never foresaw. I have a plan for how my fics will run. Do I stick to the plan to the letter? Not always, usually it sticks around in spirit. Dates will change, dialogue will get altered, things like that. But for the most part, I know where the chapter's heading. 

[noxiuniversitas1]

dpMeggers wrote...
Re: Selective foetal effect/Eezo. Eezo exposure sort of reminds me of (as someone has said before) drinking while pregnant, but also thalidomide. "Wonder drug" women take for morning sickness, no negative effects for them, a good chunk of the babies wind up with missing limbs, toes/fingers in weird places etc.

Yeah... all of them belong to a group of chemicals known as teratogens. Many examples - retanoic acid (vitamin A), is part of the wonder acne drug known as Accutane. Incidentally, thalidomide is still in use as a treatment for leprosy and certain leukaemias. Certain antibiotics cause teeth discolouration, certain blood pressure drugs cause incomplete vessel closure etc.

But - they are mainly defect-inducing, as opposed to carcinogenic.

Modifié par noxiuniversitas1, 01 juillet 2012 - 03:51 .

[MrStoob]

No probs all was just a thought, I understand we're all busy.  It'd probably die quite quickly if only 2 or 3 could contribute.  We can put it on the shelf for now.  

RE: unexpected story direction.

I tend to write one chapter at a time and let the events/feelings of that one guide the next.  I have the overall arc idea for the overall story, but the ins and outs of chapters themselves are usually unexpected apart from things like 'I need to get from A to B in this chapter'.

Where I left off my last Blue chapter (ch. 17) is certainly not where I thought it was going lol.  It just seemed right and flowed that way, despite being difficult to 'vocalise'.

[noxiuniversitas1]

ahahhahaha speaking of reviews, my latest review has made me laugh. Writers' hell indeed.

"You f*cking ass! Why would you-?
WHAT DID WE EVER DO TO DESERVE SUCH AN EVIL CLIFF HANGER?
*cries* You're so mean..."

[Ursakar]

dpMeggers wrote...

And I'm wondering are jerk-reviews evenly distributed or are certain fandoms more likely to wind up with jerk-reviews? (Anyone up for a little statistical analysis?)

Halo fandom can give an enormous amount of jerk reviews if you: a) Do something even slightly non-canon (majority of halo fans are canon freaks). If you make a SPARTAN weaker than... Well, almost anything. The fanboys will scream and shout about how impossibly awesome SPARTANS are and that you will need an army in order to defeat one.

Also, Warhammer 40k fandom can also contain a lot of GRIMDARK zealots. Those might flame you if your story will not contain enough GRIMDARK but it is very easy to defend yourself against those - simply post a warning at the start of the story that it isn't GRIMDARK and the zealots will mostly ignore you.

[MrStoob]

I only write ME FF, so couldn't comment on 'jerk-review' distribution. Though I can say... (smugly) that I haven't had any so far...

[lillitheris]

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

ahahhahaha speaking of reviews, my latest review has made me laugh. Writers' hell indeed.

"You f*cking ass! Why would you-?
WHAT DID WE EVER DO TO DESERVE SUCH AN EVIL CLIFF HANGER?
*cries* You're so mean..."

I clearly need to write more cliffhangers.

[noxiuniversitas1]

lillitheris wrote...

I clearly need to write more cliffhangers.

lol, don't write them for the hell of it, though. This particular one I only wrote because the chapter was already 5.5k words and the plot had advanced far enough such that I though there was enough to take in in one sitting.

[lillitheris]

I think my natural inclination is to write a reveal and then end the chapter…seems a pattern, thinking back.

[hot_heart]

I was actually a little concerned I ended my last chapter a little vague and early, but I figured there wasn't really much to add that you couldn't guess at anyway, and there's the old 'get in late, leave early' rule. Or at least I always like to leave people wondering about the direction and people's motivations.

...no one ever comments on that though.

[Caligno]

Spiritwolf1 wrote...

Anyone ever just sit down to write a chapter and have it go somewhere you never forsaw?

Yes, that's why I only fill in any real detail on the spot. It's the only way I can make stories interesting in any way, actually.