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#2051
Seracen

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Ok, I'll try and follow this in decending order.

Follow up Antagonist to the Reapers: I'm not exactly sure... I would HIGHLY suggest that the fic's main conflict connect to the original trilogy as to keep it from being isolated. My suggestion for searching for a conflict would be look for a conflict that is left unresolved in the original trilogy or look for some issue that is brought up by the ending itself. Like, ok, Husks and their species equivelents are obliterated by Destory, but what about those who are indoctrinated but not a Husk?

Reply to my ask for help from Seracen: I would rather not focus on the homosexual part of the relationship at all. I believe the writer's have confirmed that by 2180, The stigma is completely gone, so this should be a normal fact of life. I would rather just simply say something in just recognition of this, but I'm not sure what to say. Its really just an unshared side of Shepard's life she and everyone else of the Normandy's Crew, did not know of. For being THE Commander Shepard, He never really discussed much outside of what could have been seen on any vid, basically to play off the fact that he does exactly this in game.

Also, Shepard is effectivly out of the picture for most of this, missing a limb, horrible burns all over, staggering ammount of broken bones, ete. All the Primary Interaction from Shep for the first little while is going to be in Flashbacks to Mindoir, Skylien Blitz, Akuze, and Torfan. Shepard is nothing more than a bit better than he was during Lazzerus, which I do plan to play off of a bit.

Maybe I should toy with the fact that Miri knew nothing about any prior relationship?...Come to think of it, Didn't she say she spent years learning everything about him? Hmmm...


Thanks for the idea.  I think I can tie some of this into an alternative idea I had for resurrecting the Dark Energy plot.

Also, that was my point exactly, about the relationship itself being a non-issue, just that Miri didn't KNOW about it. Then again, I'd think she could understand.  I mean, how would this be that different from having romanced Ashley or Liara in the original, especially of Ashley, for example, subsequently died?

Again, I suppose it could be the "why didn't I know, I should be better than that" line of reasoning.  Hope that helps...

EDIT: I think the underlying reasoning I'm trying to say is that: Miranda's drive for perfection and her resolute attitude is a shell that cover her insecurities.  So, you walk the fine line of her being unsure what to do, but being endearingly bull-headed when she figures it out.
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Modifié par Seracen, 03 juillet 2012 - 08:35 .


#2052
LanceSolous13

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I think I'm going to play off the fact that Miranda never learned about that and is beginning to question what she thought she knew and what else he'd never discussed.

Thanks for the advice. Now to actually put finger to keyboard.

#2053
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Looking back on it, I'm totally surprised nobody jumped on the opportunity to write a ME3 Fan Fiction using the ME2 Ending in which Shepard and squad dies.

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Sweawm wrote...

Looking back on it, I'm totally surprised nobody jumped on the opportunity to write a ME3 Fan Fiction using the ME2 Ending in which Shepard and squad dies.


There is one with Ashley promising Shepard to continue to fight in her place if anything were to ever happen to her. Takes place in an AU ME3 after the suicide mission. I haven't read it, but it seems to fit your discription.

Keeping a Promise

Modifié par MidnightRaith, 03 juillet 2012 - 09:07 .


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LanceSolous13

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Probably because not many screw up enough to know that such an ending even exists.

Now that I think about that ending, Joker's shown with the coffins of everyone's corpse's right? When the hell did he get everyone's boddies of the Collector's Base? Actually, this could be asked of anyone who died in the Suicide Mission unless they died on the Normandy.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Probably because not many screw up enough to know that such an ending even exists.

Now that I think about that ending, Joker's shown with the coffins of everyone's corpse's right? When the hell did he get everyone's boddies of the Collector's Base? Actually, this could be asked of anyone who died in the Suicide Mission unless they died on the Normandy.


I like to think that they are just boxes filled with either personal belongings or stuff that reminds the surviving crew of  that particular individual. Considering I always blow the Collector base to hell, I can't say anything substantial makes it through the blast to get recovered. It'd be amazing if possible, but I just can't see it.

#2057
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MidnightRaith wrote...

Whew! Finally done with the type up. I still have to proofread over it, though, so I'm not ready to post yet.... Do any you hand write your chapters? I find that I'm constantly adding more material in the type up than what I originally wrote. If I ever lost the actual Word document, then I'd be up the river without a paddle because my notebook never matches up with the typed draft and the typed draft is always better than my hand written stuff.


I think we talked about this earlier? I’ve got an automated hourly backup to a separate drive, so I’m not terribly concerned about the risk aspect. Another alternative would be to e.g. use Dropbox as your storage media. (I also do a semiannual backup onto a drive that I store at work or some other separate physical location in case of fires or w/e).

But the other half of the equation is that  I do see the story better when it’s in a different format from where I do my initial writing…as things stand, I usually use a different editor for the final proof read, and I still find things to improve when I’ve published.



Also, 2000 posts of friendly and eminently useful discussion! I’m celebrating with a handful of Allsorts, this time…

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Sweawm wrote...

Looking back on it, I'm totally surprised nobody jumped on the opportunity to write a ME3 Fan Fiction using the ME2 Ending in which Shepard and squad dies.


Must... resist... drawing... attention....

#2059
MidnightRaith

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lillitheris wrote...

I think we talked about this earlier? I’ve got an automated hourly backup to a separate drive, so I’m not terribly concerned about the risk aspect. Another alternative would be to e.g. use Dropbox as your storage media. (I also do a semiannual backup onto a drive that I store at work or some other separate physical location in case of fires or w/e).

But the other half of the equation is that  I do see the story better when it’s in a different format from where I do my initial writing…as things stand, I usually use a different editor for the final proof read, and I still find things to improve when I’ve published.



Also, 2000 posts of friendly and eminently useful discussion! I’m celebrating with a handful of Allsorts, this time…


Yeah, I remember that. I need to buy an external hard drive, but I keep forgetting to.... Were you the one that once asked about how living in poverty would be feasible in this century? Random, I know, but I came across a ME2 Codex entry about the Citadel and it was saying that in the Foundations, the slums of the Citadel are where the majority of the recycling takes place. They also produce a nutritious, albeit tasteless paste for free that can be used for sustenance. So, you may not have a roof over your head, but you at least get a full belly. Don't know how this affects Earth, but at least on the Citadel, it would be difficult to starve to death.

Citadel: Foundations

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MidnightRaith wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

I think we talked about this earlier? I’ve got an automated hourly backup to a separate drive, so I’m not terribly concerned about the risk aspect. Another alternative would be to e.g. use Dropbox as your storage media. (I also do a semiannual backup onto a drive that I store at work or some other separate physical location in case of fires or w/e).

But the other half of the equation is that  I do see the story better when it’s in a different format from where I do my initial writing…as things stand, I usually use a different editor for the final proof read, and I still find things to improve when I’ve published.



Also, 2000 posts of friendly and eminently useful discussion! I’m celebrating with a handful of Allsorts, this time…


Yeah, I remember that. I need to buy an external hard drive, but I keep forgetting to.... Were you the one that once asked about how living in poverty would be feasible in this century? Random, I know, but I came across a ME2 Codex entry about the Citadel and it was saying that in the Foundations, the slums of the Citadel are where the majority of the recycling takes place. They also produce a nutritious, albeit tasteless paste for free that can be used for sustenance. So, you may not have a roof over your head, but you at least get a full belly. Don't know how this affects Earth, but at least on the Citadel, it would be difficult to starve to death.

Citadel: Foundations


Aye, I implemented the nutrient paste bit into my story, although I figured that on Earth, there would be a small charge for it. Like, around two dollars for a tube of paste. Because capitalism, or whatever :?.

#2061
lillitheris

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

I would rather not focus on the homosexual part of the relationship at all. I believe the writer's have confirmed that by 2180, The stigma is completely gone, so this should be a normal fact of life.


It’s not a stigma, but bisexuality (or biromanticism?) might come as a surprise.

Maybe I should toy with the fact that Miri knew nothing about any prior relationship?...Come to think of it, Didn't she say she spent years learning everything about him? Hmmm...


I’d rather go the route that she did know, so she would only (possibly) have been surprised that he showed an interest in her whenever it was that he did so. By this time, the identity is a nonissue.

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MidnightRaith wrote...

Were you the one that once asked about how living in poverty would be feasible in this century? Random, I know, but I came across a ME2 Codex entry about the Citadel and it was saying that in the Foundations, the slums of the Citadel are where the majority of the recycling takes place. They also produce a nutritious, albeit tasteless paste for free that can be used for sustenance. So, you may not have a roof over your head, but you at least get a full belly. Don't know how this affects Earth, but at least on the Citadel, it would be difficult to starve to death.


Yep… there’s also the quarian in ME2 who speaks of the food distribution. As it relates to post-ending in my case, the recyclers still need the biomass to recycle, but generally it could be surmised that nutrition is reasonably easy to come by.

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I meant the more current day stigma about the topic of homosexuality. Its nonexistant by 2180 as per word of god. I don't see how bisexuality, pansexuality, or even transexuality would be any more or less of a surprise than homosexuality. I mean, Kaidan is, as far as we know, Bisexual and this is never brought up as strange in the least.

Modifié par LanceSolous13, 03 juillet 2012 - 09:32 .


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Hey Lillitheris, do you think Echoes would be a welcome addition on the Gather Thread, or is it a little too short right now?

In a connected issue, to those of you who have read this, do you think 'Echoes' is an appropriate name for it? I have to admit I'm not 100% sure about it. I toyed with other names like 'Whispers in the Darkness' and 'Last Words', but I wanted something that didn't spoil the material too much, so I ended up going with the simple option.

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Seracen wrote...

Hey everyone (and OP, I also PMed you this message, more or less).

I am currently in the middle of writing a post-ME3 fic. I have most of the lore and progression already created. All that's left is writing it, however, I'd like everyone's opinion pertaining to one hiccup I'm having...

What do you consider a worthy aftermath to an antagonist, after the Reaper war?

I am currently playing with a Hive-mind resulting from Reaper remnants trying to hold-out, and a select few strong-minded individuals who manage to escape this gestalt (a nod to Marauder Shields comic by Koobismo here).

Do you consider something like this menacing enough? I want to read some fics to see how others progressed, but I'm trying to remain spoiler free until I resolve this, don't want to crib off other people notes, haha.


It would work. One of my original ideas for high-EMS Destroy (from the Meaningful Sacrifice thread) was that it focused the destructive pulse signatures tight enough* that it would be possible for some Reapers to survive, or that there were still some contingents in the dark space. In that light, I think that the concept of some making it through works for me whatever mechanism you choose to do that (you’re welcome to borrow mine).

* Essentially, the default operating mode of the Crucible is to use all the code signatures that the species have been able to collect throughout time, and perhaps incorporate some additional info from the Citadel…the problem is that there’s a chance of false positives (other synthetic life forms), reduced the better you build the thing. With extremely high EMS, some of the scientists might actually have an inkling that this is the case and, with good intentions, try to introduce changes that further reduce the risk — without realizing that they are potentially self-sabotaging slightly.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

I meant the more current day stigma about the topic of homosexuality. Its nonexistant by 2180 as per word of god. I don't see how bisexuality, pansexuality, or even transexuality would be any more or less of a surprise than homosexuality. I mean, Kaidan is, as far as we know, Bisexual and this is never brought up as strange in the least.


It depends on how you want to play it…currently, people are typically straight or gay (yes, vast generalization) and, as far as any studies have been made, very few people are romantically interested in both(/all) sexes. So, while I think that bisexuality in the purely physical sense is likely to be far more common, I’m not certain that romantic involvement would be. In this, it would still be an unexpected turn of events.

But, you could just as well go the other way, and decide that the openness allows people to unsuppress the romantic aspect (or whatever), and that bi-romanticism is far more  common. There’s really no hard science either way.

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I'd imagine it would be far more common in the future. Espicially with the Asari around. When was the last time in Mass Effect that you saw an Asari with a male human bondmate? I never came across one in any of my playthroughs and I'm usually pretty good about finding things. This is totally ignoring the Liara Romance, by the way.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

I'd imagine it would be far more common in the future. Espicially with the Asari around. When was the last time in Mass Effect that you saw an Asari with a male human bondmate? I never came across one in any of my playthroughs and I'm usually pretty good about finding things. This is totally ignoring the Liara Romance, by the way.


Asari don’t really have anything to do with human relations, I think*, but even if they do, maybe they would just appeal to gay women? :)

So, I don‘t think that’s proof (in either direction) but, as I said, you can choose whichever way. The important part is just to establish this in the background depending on how important you make the aspect of life.


* I actually wrote it so that their pheromones are suitable to either men or women.

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Actually, Sweawm, is it fine if we use Google Docs for my responses on this? If I wait until I'm done and send it, you're probably going to have to read through a novel in of itself in a full month from now.

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Is there anywhere I can get a complete updated galaxy map as as it appear in ME 3? I keep getting the ME 1 version in ME wiki and system map if I click on particular names but not shown exactly where it is on the GM. The other way I can think of is to fire up ME 3 and take spictures.

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lillitheris wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I'd imagine it would be far more common in the future. Espicially with the Asari around. When was the last time in Mass Effect that you saw an Asari with a male human bondmate? I never came across one in any of my playthroughs and I'm usually pretty good about finding things. This is totally ignoring the Liara Romance, by the way.


Asari don’t really have anything to do with human relations, I think*, but even if they do, maybe they would just appeal to gay women? :)

So, I don‘t think that’s proof (in either direction) but, as I said, you can choose whichever way. The important part is just to establish this in the background depending on how important you make the aspect of life.


* I actually wrote it so that their pheromones are suitable to either men or women.


I'm pretty sure almost all of the females who have an Asari bondmate mention a previous male partner. I know for a fact that there is an Asari Couple on the Citadel Precidium Commons level that's discussing with her bondmate how to break up with her boyfriend/husband.

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I don't think I've ever seen a picture of it, which was annoying because I was searching for the exact same thing about a month and a half ago. I'm usually really meticulous about looking for things like this, so it's probably recent if it exists at all.

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Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Is there anywhere I can get a complete updated galaxy map as as it appear in ME 3? I keep getting the ME 1 version in ME wiki and system map if I click on particular names but not shown exactly where it is on the GM. The other way I can think of is to fire up ME 3 and take spictures.


Erm....I can't think of any place in particular. Is there something spesific you were looking for in that?

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The Galaxy Map thing won't work regardless of which game you boot up. That's why the wiki page doesn't have what you are looking for. Because all three games have different systems you can access and others that you can't. ME 3 for example gives access to some systems you could never get to before, such as the Turian and Asari systems. But you can't access anything in the Terminus really (where most of ME2 took place), or places like the Armstrong Cluster or Voyager Cluster like in ME 1. If you wanted it all in once place, you'd probably have to make your own map by going through all three games, one by one, and combining them all into a single map.

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I think he's talking about just the systems in ME3. Either way, it would be difficult to get the complete map since they keep popping in and out of existence throughout the game.