Rockworm503 wrote...
I love how "customers are always right" have now become "entitled crybabys"
Modifié par Elhanan, 29 mai 2012 - 03:31 .
Ninja Stan wrote...
No, the notion of "commerce" nicely describes the relationship between devs/pubs and consumer money. Some of the BSN threats, personal attacks, conspiracy theories, whinging, calls for firing, and selfishness that we've seen after some game releases do meet the definition of "gamer entitlement" pretty well. Not saying that all complaints are entitlement, and not saying that you're not allowed to criticize or discuss what you don't like, but there are people that go [i]way[/]i over the line because they feel entitled to a perfect game that must cater precisely to their tastes just because they spent money on it. Rather than the reality of commerce, which is generally that someone produces something and advertises it, and a consumer chooses whether to buy it or not, perfection and catering to tastes not guaranteed.Sajji wrote...
I find the notion of "entitled gamers" extremely humorous. By default, it infers developers and publishers are entitled to consumer money.
Some people believe that "I didn't like it" and "the game is broken" and "you made it wrong" are the same thing.
bEVEsthda wrote...
Ninja Stan wrote...
Some people believe that "I didn't like it" and "the game is broken" and "you made it wrong" are the same thing.
So you don't think they might think all three things apply? At the same time? That would seem a perfectly possible alternative interpretion, to me.
Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 30 mai 2012 - 03:04 .
In Exile wrote...
Skelter192 wrote...
But what is the point of playing only the story?
Having fun?Once that is over there is nothing else if you don't pvp or are social active? Even Blizzard is trying to change WoW and having it be more social at least in Panderia. I've never played an MMO with such a horrible community and by horrible I don't mean people who are vulgar I mean people just don't talk at all it makes me miss Barrens chat.
That's because a lot of TOR players don't want an MMO - they want KoTOR 3, and they're paying a subscription fee for a watered down version.
AdamJenson wrote...
So...the movement in MMO games is to make them more "social"...the move is to therefore make them all more like SecondLife.
Ugh. Secondlife is nothing BUT social. It is IRC chat with avatars. Sad, lonely shut ins with no life beyond SL. THIS is the direction MMO "games" are going? There's no "game" there, just inane nonsense and preening.
termokanden wrote...
How very hateful.
I think that's missing the point anyway. Instead of playing a game by yourself, you're playing a game while talking to people. I don't see what's so bad about it, and I definitely don't see why you'd want an MMO without the social aspect. If you dislike having other players in your game, that's what singleplayer games are for.
The best times I've had playing MMOs were not spent in a glorified chatroom. We were going through dungeons setting speed challenges for ourselves or trying to see how much we could survive by messing up on purpose. I don't know, maybe we were sad and lonely shutins, but we sure had fun.
I never had that kind of fun in TOR, which is a shame because I actually like the game otherwise (except for the crafting system though).
Modifié par Elhanan, 30 mai 2012 - 06:15 .
Elhanan wrote...
I play solo with the Chat off for the reason that I do not wish to interact with others. Sometimes this is due to personality clashes as seen on the Forums, but it is also due to the ideas I am a poor typist and sub-standard Player; will not be much of a benefit to any group.
I choose TOR as I like the stories and writing, and DA3 will not be out for a while yet, and I am not one to purchase every title; prefer to pick and choose, and Bioware has proven themselves to be a trusted name to me.
Now, for those that do like Social games, SWTOR offers that, too. But it is still the New Kid On the Block, and folks will have to get to know the neighbors. Me? I prefer to remain indoors, as I burn easily....
termokanden wrote...
You don't need to type quickly with voice chat. All that substandard player stuff isn't much of a concern with a friendly guild. I sucked at healing when I got started with that, for example. My friends kept bringing me to dungeons anyway and I got very good at it eventually.
I have no problem with people playing the game alone. However, I was a little disappointed that I was not able to find that many likeminded individuals in TOR. Hasn't been a problem for me in other MMOs.
Modifié par Elhanan, 30 mai 2012 - 08:10 .
Relshar wrote...
The EU server I am on was empty after the first month. At peak play times for the EU Republic Fleet only had a max of 30 players of various levels at one time. I canceled my subs due to low populations and bad graphics and a poor crafting system.
Elhanan wrote...
Not simply slow, but uncoordinated and incorrect. Besides a lack of eye-hand, I have nerve damage and have had a stroke; not really up for explaining this a lot for grouping.
I still suggest that you gather a few friends and start your own Guild. My favorite time gaming in the past dozen years was the private NWN1 m/p group that played bi-weekly for 5 yrs. Controlled environment for Chat and social interaction was terrific, as well as the comradery one can gain from PnP.
Modifié par Skelter192, 02 juin 2012 - 06:43 .
termokanden wrote...
It does sound good. Too bad I don't care much for FF
termokanden wrote...
It does sound good. Too bad I don't care much for FF
Elhanan wrote...
Or for MMO's as a rule; SWTOR is a rare exception.
Modifié par Skelter192, 03 juin 2012 - 01:58 .
Skelter192 wrote...
Just another in a long list of WoW clones. (inb4 WoW is an EQ clone)
Rockworm503 wrote...
LMAO paying a subscription to play singleplayer!
Elhanan wrote...
Rockworm503 wrote...
LMAO paying a subscription to play singleplayer!
A single player that has updated and additional content each week, is available almost 24/7, Tech support to help with questions, GM's, events, etc; all for about .50 cents a day. Worth it to me....
Modifié par Skelter192, 03 juin 2012 - 06:31 .
Rockworm503 wrote...
If you say so but I can't shake the thought that all of that have been free for most single player games I own.
People say the same thing about Xbox live yet I get everything they do for free on my PS3. I honestly don't care how much it is its just silly to rationalize it like that.
50 cents a day is still being charged even if you're forced to not play for 3 weeks.
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