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[fro7k]

Leliana is duel-wielding a sword with a paralyse rune and a knife with two paralyse runes and I don't recall her once paralysing anyone.

[badkenbad]

For one thing it depends on the level of the paralyze runes. If they're all Novice runes, there won't be a whole lot of paralyzing going on.



I used paralyze runes liberally on my melee-ers during a couple playthroughs, and they definitely do work. Especially the Grandmaster rune (though I only ever found one of those).

[Loc'n'lol]

What kind of paralyze runes are we talking about ? Also, I hear active runes (on hit) only work on the main hand weapon.

They definetely work and are extremely powerful, just don't expect to paralyze everything you hit, that would be totally overpowered.

[Loc'n'lol]

LostScout wrote...

The paralysis doesn't last long, so maybe you just missed seeing it happen.

Considering there is a VERY OBVIOUS visual effect, I find that unlikely 

[bambooxfox]

Even with the highest level paralyze rune, the effect doesn't happen very often. Sometimes I forget I put the rune in a weapon until it lucks out on a big enemy, like an ogre. I wish the runes told you exactly what the base percent chance of success was though, it'd help me decide whether to put in a paralyze rune or spring for something like elemental damage or physical resistance.

[Whailor]

It works, just not too often which is OK.

[Jassper]

GrandMaster seems to be about 1 in 5 give or take (mobs, not hits)



The lesser ones are maybe 1 in 10 on up



The runes on off hands work also. Last night I placed 4 of them (2 on each weapon) will see if it does any good tonight.

[Eshme]

What if you have 3 runes, the effect should be greatly increased wont it? At least it doesnt tell it wont stack. Speak about "missing" , occassionally rarely i see stunned enemies that i did nothing to, but i cannot really determine why because others have the ability too, not only from runes i think.

[XOGHunter246]

work fine for me

[Bibdy]

They have a chance to proc (5% per 'rank' - novice = 1 , journeyman = 2 etc. I think), so they don't always activate every swing, and the target also gets a physical resistance check before getting paralyzed.

And yes, I believe stacking, say, 3 Runes of Paralysis will give you 3 separate attempts to get a Paralyze proc per attack.

The paralyze durations don't stack, however, nor do they override one another, so if 2 of the runes procced, the target failed the resistance check on both, they'd only get paralyzed by the strongest rune with the longest duration (1 extra second per 'rank'...I think), if the target is already paralyzed, the target cannot be paralyzed again until it wears off i.e. you can't keep reset the timer and keep the thing stunlocked.

So, there's a diminished bonus in stacking the things.

Modifié par Bibdy, 10 décembre 2009 - 07:21 .

[Kimberly Shaw]

Another aspect of the game that would greatly help with a tooltip that tells you what is supposed to happen so we could determine if its working or not...



I have the grandmaster paralyze rune on my off hand along with 2 other runes, have no idea if it works because things die so fast. I think the only way to try it out would be on a boss with a boatload of hp and even then it may not work on boss level mobs.



Maybe better to just stick another +elemental damage rune on if your enemies die in 3 seconds, not like you can go around tagging things for crowd control?

[Georg Zoeller]

Bibdy wrote...

They have a chance to proc (5% per 'rank' - novice = 1 , journeyman = 2 etc. I think), so they don't always activate every swing, and the target also gets a physical resistance check before getting paralyzed.

And yes, I believe stacking, say, 3 Runes of Paralysis will give you 3 separate attempts to get a Paralyze proc per attack.

Correct.

[Gliese]

That would mean that a grandmaster, master and expert paralyze rune stacked on a weapon would give around 49% chance per hit of a paralyze check on target if my math is correct (been a while since I did probability).
Chance to avoid a check = 0.75 x 0.8 x 0.85 = 0.51.

Modifié par Gliese, 10 décembre 2009 - 07:47 .

[KatzBlackblade]

I must admit I was quite disappointed at having paid 5 sovereign for a Master Rune that didn't proc very often. And by that, I mean not once in 10 mobs. Less than that And I hit often, with two daggers...

It led me to believe getting a Grandmaster Paralyze Rune would increase the paralysis duration, not the chances of actually triggering the effect. In this case, using several Paralysis Runes would still help, if each of them would have a chance to trigger.

[Haexpane]

Grandmaster FTW

[SuSuSudio]

A word of caution, though - on backstabs you'll only use the mainhand weapon's runes (not sure if this is still true on 1.02, I'm on Xbox). The runes in the offhand weapon don't proc on backstabs.

[sebastiantjfisher]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...
Also, I hear active runes (on hit) only work on the main hand weapon.

Is this true? I have runes on my off-hand.

[Forsakerr]

sebastiantjfisher wrote...

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...
Also, I hear active runes (on hit) only work on the main hand weapon.

Is this true? I have runes on my off-hand.

they work on offhand weapons , they proc on my rogue's weapon, people hear some strange stuff sometimes

[kevinwastaken]

I have a couple of the grandmaster ones (1 in each hand) and I see the effect pretty regularly. In the time it has taken me to acquire 2 of the things however they have vastly diminished in utility. Things die fast beyond lvl 20.

[Jassper]

SuSuSudio wrote...

A word of caution, though - on backstabs you'll only use the mainhand weapon's runes (not sure if this is still true on 1.02, I'm on Xbox). The runes in the offhand weapon don't proc on backstabs.

Thats because you only back stab with the main hand weapon. But if you are facing the mob, both have a chance to proc, and once paralized - auto back stab.

Also, if the mob makes a resist check, you will see "resisted" float above his head.

EDIT
Oh, and certain mobs are immune.

Modifié par Jassper, 10 décembre 2009 - 09:36 .

[Girchou]

They certainly do!

i have a master one and it paralyzes all the time

Along with 109 damage!

[borelocin]

Grandmaster runes work well - haven't bother slotting the lower ones so couldn't tell you.

[Invalidcode]

Actually when a DW rogue doing BS it is still main-hand, off-hand, main-hand, off-hand. (Equi a really strong MH & very weak OH to see for yourself) The animation is not exactly right. Reports are that runes won't proc for the OH during BS. The runes in the OH will work if you are not doing BS.



Very possible it is a bug.