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[ChaosAgentLoki]

Okay, so I just recently purchased Baldur's Gate off of gog.com and have swiftly grown bored with it. It is nowhere near as engaging (to me) as Fallout or Diablo and I was wondering if anyone could tell me whether the game gets any better? 

The intro bores me and is causing me to struggle to try to get through it, so I'm asking this in the hopes that the game does pick up pace. I have nothing against a slow build, it's just this one isn't all that engaging. 

Modifié par ChaosAgentLoki, 27 mai 2012 - 02:45 .

[Kevin Lynch]

It's likely a combination of the setting and style of gameplay that's turning you off. The BG series (until ToB) is heavy on story with the classic slow but steady advancement based on D&D rules. It's an entirely different breed than the Diablo franchise, which is fast-paced action-packed loot-finding craziness (that's a good thing). It's much more like the FO series in how the gameplay works, being turn-based; I don't think you'll find the pace all that different from the FO series, although perhaps the setting is what makes it uninteresting for you.

As to whether it changes, it does substantially in BG2. If you find BG1 a bore, you might want to jump into BG2 instead. You don't need to play BG1, even though BG2 is a continuation of the storyline, and you'll find BG2 puts you into the action pretty quickly.

[PaulSX]

BG1's pacing starts a little bit slow, but once you passed the first chapter, it's getting more and more interesting. I would suggest you follow the main story at first and do not explore too much before you get better equipments since those wild animals could kill you in seconds. and later once you get access to Baldur's Gate, you will find a lot of interesting stuff to do there.

[The Potty 1]

The first time you play BG1 I imagine you're getting killed by just about everything. This can suck. I suggest you roll a straight fighter, max strength, dexterity, & constitution, put all weapon proficiencies into one weapon type, preferably bows because ranged fighting rules in BG1. Buy a composite longbow and lots of arrows. Leave melee until you have some serious plate armour and a couple more levels.

Personally I love thieves, but to start your stealth skill is gonna blow, so that may not be the easier option. Give it a try if it appeals to you, your first successful backstab will make it all worthwhile.

[fro7k]

What do you mean by 'the intro'? Because if you're talking about Candlekeep you can't have been playing more than an hour or two at most (and you can get past it in a minute if you wish to), and I don't think it's fair to judge a game by its prologue.  It's like throwing out Dragon Age: Origins because you didn't like the origin story you happened to play through.

To swiftly grow bored of it means you didn't play for long, and it makes me wonder what on earth you can make such an early judgement on.  I hope you weren't expecting to be wooed by the graphics or hearing people talk and not having to read.  The story certainly had me hooked when I played it (and more strongly than BG2's), I wanted to unmask the mysterious warrior and understand his relevence to the plot.  Then again, show me a game that everyone likes...

Also I thought you were going to wait for BG:EE.

Modifié par fro7k, 29 mai 2012 - 11:09 .

[ChaosAgentLoki]

fro7k wrote...

What do you mean by 'the intro'? Because if you're talking about Candlekeep you can't have been playing more than an hour or two at most (and you can get past it in a minute if you wish to), and I don't think it's fair to judge a game by its prologue.  It's like throwing out Dragon Age: Origins because you didn't like the origin story you happened to play through.

To swiftly grow bored of it means you didn't play for long, and it makes me wonder what on earth you can make such an early judgement on.  I hope you weren't expecting to be wooed by the graphics or hearing people talk and not having to read.  The story certainly had me hooked when I played it (and more strongly than BG2's), I wanted to unmask the mysterious warrior and understand his relevence to the plot.  Then again, show me a game that everyone likes...

Also I thought you were going to wait for BG:EE.

I was waiting for the Enhanced Edition, but after picking up The Witcher (the original one) and finding that my computer couldn't run it...though it can run SC2, TOR and a few other major games, but that's not the point...I decided to pick it up in its original version to be on the safe side.

I do have a tendency to judge a game partially based upon the intro. The intro can determine whether I place a priority on completing the game or not and in the case of BG, it just doesn't feel that way. I asked this overall question though in a hope that the game does pick up as this intro is one of the more annoying ones I've encountered and if I can get enough of a (spoiler-free as possible) consensus, then I'd place it back into my priority list. So far the consensus seems to be that it does get better, so I'm planning on returning to the game and actually settling in with it, but I just wanted to know ahead of time as I wouldn't have been able to make my way through it if it didn't.

Modifié par ChaosAgentLoki, 29 mai 2012 - 06:24 .

[fro7k]

I still don't know what you meant by the intro (the intro movie where the armoured figure kills a man, the candlekeep section, going beyond that...?), but w/e, I hope it gets better for you. Throwing my mind back 10 years or more, I don't remember Candlekeep hooking me specifically, but everything after that I fell in love with. It's possible that with more partially-copycat games coming out since then that it looks like something you've seen before, *shrug*.

Candlekeep is a bit of a tutorial stage to help you get to grips with the game and you pick up some exp from puzzles that can get you about 30% of the way to the next level, depending on class (but hours later on this will become an insignificant amount that you can get in abundance from single kills), but there isn't much plot relevence to them and you can head right to the next section by talking to Gorion...

Once you get out of Candlekeep you're free (though the game indicates where you 'should' go); you can play the game how you want to; explore the lands at your whim, or follow the main story exclusively if you prefer; though you might be underleveled for it; level scaling is either rare or nonexistent, so tough enemies are tough and weak enemies are weak! I personally find this keeps things real. If you have a lot of cunning you could take out some big enemies earlier than usual and maybe grab some sweet gear early on (though probably not feasable as a newbie).

Exploration can be brutal for a first-time player, but it is rewarding, and I found the environments lush and immersive with the visuals and sounds (though I'm not sure how it will seem in 2012), simply strolling through the countryside environments was a pleasure.

When dealing with enemies, play smart, maneuver your party, use missiles a lot, save a lot, etc.

I've never fiddled with the difficulty settings much but you might want to take a look at those, too, if you have trouble. Nothing is too hard on normal difficulty, though.

Also if you're playing standard BG1 (which I recommend over tutu/BGT mods), it rolls your hp randomly on level-up; you may want to 'save-scum' to get the highest bonuses upon levelling. For fighter types you have a 1/8 chance of rolling the highest number, 1/6 with thief, 1/4 with mage. It's not fun and you may roll a glass-cannon if you just play it like true D&D, which is why the BG2 engine started supporting maximum hp at levelling as standard (xd1 instead of 1dx).

Modifié par fro7k, 30 mai 2012 - 01:51 .