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[DarkerCompanion]

ThatDamnSalarian wrote...

Is there a video somewhere showing 140% DR? Or invulnerability?

Not that I am aware of, but one of the links I made had a picture thread with Batarians tanking rockets with no damage while doing heavy melees. Or something like that.

[DarkerCompanion]

Okay, I updated the list with the new Rebellion classes. Poor Phoenixes! Last place for the LOSE.

[Relix28]

Did you actually test the Phoenix classes? I did some tests, and fitness seems to be working fine.

[DarkerCompanion]

Relix28 wrote...

Did you actually test the Phoenix classes? I did some tests, and fitness seems to be working fine.

I'm taking this on the word, and video proof of a number of other posters.

Ultimately, it changes little; if they ARE functional, they get put into the 6 member strong category of "regular humans", which is 3rd from the bottom rather than 1st. And since that 1st category would be removed, they would still  be in 2nd worst.

The bug might be situation, but there is obviously something there.

[GodlessPaladin]

Does the fitness bug affect Phoenix melee damage too?

[DarkerCompanion]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Does the fitness bug affect Phoenix melee damage too?

I don't know. You'd have to ask someone who has done testing. Apparently, it DOESN'T effect the 15% shield regen at rank 5, but that is irrelevant to my Health list. If the list was about sheer survivability, the Vorcha would be much higher, and Vanguards and Salarians would top the list.

[D Amiri]

I wonder about the DR of the cast animation of powers. I've never been killed or even interrupted while casting Sub.Net or B.Blades. But Smash/Lash doesn't have any of those benefits.

[R0Gun13]

useful list man, thanks

[Xaijin]

I know for a fact the KV takes way less damage than any other krogan unit, not matter what the tooltip says.

Modifié par Xaijin, 03 juin 2012 - 09:49 .

[Relix28]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Does the fitness bug affect Phoenix melee damage too?

I have done some testing, and I'm preeeeeety sure there is no bug. Not with Fitness, at least.

[Relix28]

D Amiri wrote...

I wonder about the DR of the cast animation of powers. I've never been killed or even interrupted while casting Sub.Net or B.Blades. But Smash/Lash doesn't have any of those benefits.

My guess would be none. That's probably why people are complaining so much about their survivability.

[DarkerCompanion]

Relix28 wrote...

I have done some testing, and I'm preeeeeety sure there is no bug. Not with Fitness, at least.

I'm watching the thread. It was only coincidence I happened to update this topic while this Fitness bug discussion is underway. As I said, its largely insignificant; if they aren't bugged, their position gets changed from weakest class to second weakest class.

D Amiri wrote...

I wonder about the DR of the cast animation of powers. I've never been killed or even interrupted while casting Sub.Net or B.Blades. But Smash/Lash doesn't have any of those benefits.

I have been. Either way, I'm willing to list DR from temporary buffs like Shield Drain and Reave, but I'm not going to incorporate short term power DR into my list. I may make a side note if you find anything relevant.

Xaijin wrote...

I know for a fact the KV takes way less damage than any other krogan unit, not matter what the tooltip says.

He has more health and he regens shields with Charge. He also has no stagger. Thats enough to account for your claim. If you think there is more than that, find me some proof.

[DarkerCompanion]

Made an adjustment; I found out that the Male Quarians actually have more health and shields than Female Quarians.

[dimeonwu]

DarkerCompanion wrote...

Broganisity wrote...

Not to mention the superior melee...But this isn't the thread about why turians need some patch love...though it sure does help prove a point.

Heh, I actually made this entire list because I was reading in the Turian mobility thread. I think it serves to illustrate some glaring oversights in the game, which is just important to me as being a useful resource. The most obvious, of course, are the Drell Vanguard and Turian Soldier. On the other hand, it makes me think the Justicar is TOO good, and then I remember that she is literally my least played class because I find her useless in actual gameplay. So I figure I will let it slide.

It depends on your playstyle. There are many roles/builds for the Justicar. Personally I find her balance of Biotics and Gunplay quite awesome, altho I tend to sacrifice Rank 5 Reave DR for Reave Recharge

[DarkerCompanion]

dimeonwu wrote...

It depends on your playstyle. There are many roles/builds for the Justicar. Personally I find her balance of Biotics and Gunplay quite awesome, altho I tend to sacrifice Rank 5 Reave DR for Reave Recharge

I know some like the Justicar, but I have a hard time backing such an intensely support oriented class. The "trap-warp" bubble is very . . . frustrating for me, since I don't like having to go set it back up again (not to mention losing its defensive benefits) while using it defensively leaves her with terrible self sufficient BE potential.

Its not her, its me. Though I do think she is not a high tier class.