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[Jawsomebob]

If you complain about DA3 then it will counter all points we made about the mass effect 3 ending because it will make it look like the fans do not know what they want.

Be happy Bioware is taking fan account into the game.

[Welsh Inferno]

People have a right to complain if they feel they are being fed garbage.

[Legacy_of_Wrex]

Is it okay to be worried?

Mass Effect = Replayed it I don't know how many times. Mass Effect 2 = Same. Mass Effect 3 = "What?!"

I'm doing the same with Dragon Age Origins and DA2, and my biggest worry is that DA3 is gonna be a big, war on all sides, then for all your choices, deux es machina shows up and gives you three choices, bam, it's over. Your companions escaped the explosion on a ship, and got stranded on an island somewhere. Your character (Warden/Hawke/Orlesian Commander) gasps for breath somewhere.

[Reznore57]

I think it's fair game to complain( though personal attack on Bioware staff plain sucks and it's a line that shouldn't be crossed)
But Bioware cut too much corners when making their games lately.
Da2 , I felt the story had a lot of potential but a lot of things fell flat because it wasn't enough polished.
Me3 , there was good moment ( Mordin /Tuchanka was a highlight) but the plot wasn't really good writing.Me2 didn't really have a good plot neither ( Terminator Reaper Foetus /facepalm) but they did pull it out via good action /music /cinematic.
Me3 ,on a second playthrough , scratching a bit of the polish surface , I found out the game is actually poor on content.

So yeah i think it's important to voice that (in a polite manner^^) because on the long run ,if Bioware keep on like this , they're gonna lose a lot of fans.

[DPSSOC]

Jawsomebob wrote...

If you complain about DA3 then it will counter all points we made about the mass effect 3 ending because it will make it look like the fans do not know what they want.

"The fans" don't want anything, we're not the Borg.  You might as well ask people in the ME3 forums to stop arguing about IT while you're at it, because if some people want IT and some people don't it will make it look like the fans do not know what they want.  The fans are not unified on much, dare I say anything, so Bioware already knows the fans don't know what they want.

Jawsomebob wrote...
Be happy Bioware is taking fan account into the game.

That's not a good thing. The fans want a lot of things, most of them don't make sense, we ran into this with ME2 and guess what, the game sufferred for it.  I don't want Bioware to cater to fan demands, anymore than I want authors or directors to do so. What I want is for Bioware to do their thing and write an interesting story with engaging characters and fun gameplay, and I want EA to give them the time they need to do that (snowball's chance in hell I know).

Mass Effect, Dragon Age: Origins, Knights of the Old Republic, Baldur's !@#$ing Gate all of them were written and developed without turning to the fans. Bioware does not need our input, they need to stop worrying about what people want/expect and focus on making the game and telling the story they want.

The fans are not consistent by looking to us for input you're going to end up with Dragon Age: Madlib.

[whykikyouwhy]

 Seems a bit premature to complain about something that doesn't exist yet. <_<

[LiquidGrape]

DPSSOC wrote...
Bioware does not need our input, they need to stop worrying about what people want/expect and focus on making the game and telling the story they want.

So...more games like Dragon Age II?

Because I would totally be up for that.

[Mr.House]

DPSSOC wrote...

Bioware does not need our input, they need to stop worrying about what people want/expect and focus on making the game and telling the story they want.

The fans are not consistent by looking to us for input you're going to end up with Dragon Age: Madlib.

Um if they make games that no one wants to buy/play, guess what happens? Bioware does not get money. Bioware is not a chairty, they make games to be enjoyed by consumers so they will buy more products from them, or well that's how it used to be.

[Giggles_Manically]

Bioware is not an art studio.

They are a developer that makes things people HOPEFULLY want to buy.
Know what?

Most companies test the water, ask for input and advice about their services and products.
If you dont do that you get the Casey/Walter special where its what less then 10% of the fanbase wanted.

Guess what? DA3 because ME3 did not listen to its fan is going to probably not sell very well.

[jbrand2002uk]

i think the fans should keep their opinions to themselves and let BW get on with doing their job but thats me alas forums are to full these days of armchair game writers who think they know better than the people making the games because they spend 20hrs a day drooling over their PC/Console

[Melca36]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Bioware is not an art studio.

They are a developer that makes things people HOPEFULLY want to buy.
Know what?

Most companies test the water, ask for input and advice about their services and products.
If you dont do that you get the Casey/Walter special where its what less then 10% of the fanbase wanted.

Guess what? DA3 because ME3 did not listen to its fan is going to probably not sell very well.

I think we she wait until we see a trailer and such before we come to any conclusions.

[DPSSOC]

LiquidGrape wrote...

DPSSOC wrote...
Bioware does not need our input, they need to stop worrying about what people want/expect and focus on making the game and telling the story they want.

So...more games like Dragon Age II?

Because I would totally be up for that.

Sure if that's what they want to do.  If Bioware has decided that that's the kind of game they want to make and that's the kind of crowd they're shooting for I say go for it.  Nobody ever made money trying to give everyone what they want, hell some of the most successful companies make it a point of sticking it to their consumers (I'm looking at you Microsoft).

Mr.House wrote...

DPSSOC wrote...

Bioware does not need our input, they need to stop worrying about what people want/expect and focus on making the game and telling the story they want.

The fans are not consistent by looking to us for input you're going to end up with Dragon Age: Madlib.

Um if they make games that no one wants to buy/play, guess what happens? Bioware does not get money. Bioware is not a chairty, they make games to be enjoyed by consumers so they will buy more products from them, or well that's how it used to be.

And this keeps them from making the games they want how? Bioware makes great games, they've got a nice little library to choose from, most of them did not involve asking the consumer for input. There's a world of difference between making games people want to play, and asking them to dictate features. Making a game people want to play can be about concepts, or mechanics, or characters; people like playing Pong for instance. None of that requires direct, or really any, input; all it requires is that the game be fun and interesting.

Film studios aren't charities either that doesn't stop directors or producers from making the movies they want to make as opposed to what's currently popular or what people who liked their previous work want them to make.

I'd much rather Bioware do their own thing, and have occassional bombs, than have them listen to us and fall into the Zelda/Madden trap of making the same game over, and over, and over, with nothing more than superficial differences just because they know that's what their fans want.

[jwalker]

Jawsomebob wrote...

If you complain about DA3 then it will counter all points we made about the mass effect 3 ending because it will make it look like the fans do not know what they want.

Can you elaborate on that ? Doesn't make much sense, tbh.....

[Ninja Stan]

Perhaps after information is released about a possible DA3 is a better time to worry about how it will end up. Thanks.

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Modifié par Ninja Stan, 27 mai 2012 - 10:16 .