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[CrutchCricket]

Mesina2 wrote...
Whatever happens with husks?

We do see them stop attacking when Shepard takes control, but then what?

I imagine some of them will be kept to help rebuild things that the Reaper ships can't.

Most will be destroyed because there's no longer any use for them.

[CroGamer002]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
Whatever happens with husks?

We do see them stop attacking when Shepard takes control, but then what?

I imagine some of them will be kept to help rebuild things that the Reaper ships can't.

Most will be destroyed because there's no longer any use for them.

That's probably the case.


Better to respect dead and let them die.

[Ageless Face]

Mesina2 wrote...

I just seen some comment about this.


Whatever happens with husks?

We do see them stop attacking when Shepard takes control, but then what?

They will do what the reapers tell them to do, Same as before. Only that now they will have different orders.

I'm more concerned with wether there will be more husks. Will reaper tech continue to indoctrinate?

Modifié par HagarIshay, 03 juillet 2012 - 07:31 .

[Seival]

mass perfection wrote...

How do you make your own banner?

I'm using GIMP 2 and Inkscape programs, plus ME3 video footage I made during my last playthrough (I used FRAPS to make the video footage). It's not really hard, but it requires time.

...I want to learn how to make animated banners. Animated Control Ending support banners could be really beautiful

[Calibrations Expert]

HagarIshay wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

I just seen some comment about this.


Whatever happens with husks?

We do see them stop attacking when Shepard takes control, but then what?

They will do what the reapers tell them to do, Same as before. Only that now they will have different orders.

I'm more concerned with wether there will be more husks. Will reaper tech continue to indoctrinate?

Indoctrination doesn't create husks. They are created in a lab. 

I'm sure Shepard would be able to prevent indoctrination, or if he can't, just not take control of anyone if they are indoctrinated.

Modifié par Calibrations Expert, 03 juillet 2012 - 07:38 .

[CrutchCricket]

HagarIshay wrote...
I'm more concerned with wether there will be more husks. Will reaper tech continue to indoctrinate?

Well for one thing husks aren't the same as indoctrination.

Husk- invasive Reaper implants physically transform the victim into a techno-organic drone.
Indoctrination- some type of signal that subconsciously manipulates the target into working with the Reapers. Akin to brainwashing. Repeated heavy exposer erodes intelligence at which point subject is probably turned into a husk.

The huskifying process would obviously cease. As for indoctrination I believe they can turn that off as well.

[Ageless Face]

Yeah, I know that indoctrination and husks are not the same. Serves me right for writing before thinking...

But was it ever said that the indoctrinating tech could be turned off? Even the dead reapers can indoctrinate.

[CroGamer002]

HagarIshay wrote...

Yeah, I know that indoctrination and husks are not the same. Serves me right for writing before thinking...

But was it ever said that the indoctrinating tech could be turned off? Even the dead reapers can indoctrinate.

Well, they forgot to turn the switch off?

[Moshaaver]

I would hope that the Husk Process could be reversed but that's wishful thinking. I would think that the Paragon Shepard-Reaper-Commander would shut down the Husks and their ilk down. Unfortunately there would be a lot of resentment from the hundreds of families who have relatives that have been turned into Husks.

It's the cost of war.

Also I'm fairly certain that Reapers can turn their indoctrination on and off, it's never really been talked about but I guess this would be Head-Canon. Maybe the Reapers had an underlying program that was 'Indoctrinate Everything all the Time' and now that Shepard is in control he can just say 'Nope'

Modifié par Moshaaver, 03 juillet 2012 - 07:54 .

[CrutchCricket]

HagarIshay wrote...
But was it ever said that the indoctrinating tech could be turned off? Even the dead reapers can indoctrinate.

It's never been stated but it seems like a safe bet. As for dead Reapers, the signal can probably only be shut off from the source. i.e the control entity. Thinking about Reaper artifacts that also indoctrinate.

[Seival]

HagarIshay wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

I just seen some comment about this.


Whatever happens with husks?

We do see them stop attacking when Shepard takes control, but then what?

They will do what the reapers tell them to do, Same as before. Only that now they will have different orders.

I'm more concerned with wether there will be more husks. Will reaper tech continue to indoctrinate?

...Hmm. In time the new Catalist will be fully respected among all races. The races may reconsider their ways of bury the dead of natural causes. They can give the dead to the new Catalist instead of putting them underground or cremating. So the people who passed away could be preserved in the form of a new Reaper, or a hask.

Looks like we have a peaceful and ethical method of creating a Reaper here

[M Hedonist]

Seival wrote...

No, Sauruz. You just wanted the scene to be removed so much, that started to use all dirty methods to debunk the theory which goal was to support the scene. You've failed. Especially when you've started to attack the scene's support with your spiderman spams.

...I think people like you just don't understand what does support really mean. Don't really want to speak with you anymore.

Dirty methods? Lolwut? I guess using deductive reasoning is unfair against someone who has no grasp of logic.
You're still thinking people disliked your theory because people disliked the scene? How hard is it to accept that your theory was simply dumb? Your stubbornness never ceases to amaze me.

[CroGamer002]

Seival wrote...

...Hmm. In time the new Catalist will be fully respected among all races. The races may reconsider their ways of bury the dead of natural causes. They can give the dead to the new Catalist instead of putting them underground or cremating. So the people who passed away could be preserved in the form of a new Reaper, or a hask.

Looks like we have a peaceful and ethical method of creating a Reaper here

Pure majority would be against that.


Mostly due to religious reasons.

[Moshaaver]

Seival wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

I just seen some comment about this.


Whatever happens with husks?

We do see them stop attacking when Shepard takes control, but then what?

They will do what the reapers tell them to do, Same as before. Only that now they will have different orders.

I'm more concerned with wether there will be more husks. Will reaper tech continue to indoctrinate?

...Hmm. In time the new Catalist will be fully respected among all races. The races may reconsider their ways of bury the dead of natural causes. They can give the dead to the new Catalist instead of putting them underground or cremating. So the people who passed away could be preserved in the form of a new Reaper, or a hask.

Looks like we have a peaceful and ethical method of creating a Reaper here

OH SEIVAL I LOVE THIS IDEA. I didn't even think of that at all. Awesome. 

[Seival]

Mesina2 wrote...

Seival wrote...

...Hmm. In time the new Catalist will be fully respected among all races. The races may reconsider their ways of bury the dead of natural causes. They can give the dead to the new Catalist instead of putting them underground or cremating. So the people who passed away could be preserved in the form of a new Reaper, or a hask.

Looks like we have a peaceful and ethical method of creating a Reaper here

Pure majority would be against that.


Mostly due to religious reasons.

I think that non-religious people will have no problem with that at all. And religious ones could make some sort of a special religious ritual of it... A "Ceremony of Rebirth" of some kind. Even religious people will see a great potential in this I think.

[Seival]

Moshaaver wrote...

Seival wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

I just seen some comment about this.


Whatever happens with husks?

We do see them stop attacking when Shepard takes control, but then what?

They will do what the reapers tell them to do, Same as before. Only that now they will have different orders.

I'm more concerned with wether there will be more husks. Will reaper tech continue to indoctrinate?

...Hmm. In time the new Catalist will be fully respected among all races. The races may reconsider their ways of bury the dead of natural causes. They can give the dead to the new Catalist instead of putting them underground or cremating. So the people who passed away could be preserved in the form of a new Reaper, or a hask.

Looks like we have a peaceful and ethical method of creating a Reaper here

OH SEIVAL I LOVE THIS IDEA. I didn't even think of that at all. Awesome. 

Thanks

[Moshaaver]

This idea of making the dead part of a new Reaper would obviously be something some people want. Given the option of 'Becoming part of something greater/contributing to the health of the Universe' it's like donating your body to science.

[Seival]

Moshaaver wrote...

This idea of making the dead part of a new Reaper would obviously be something some people want. Given the option of 'Becoming part of something greater/contributing to the health of the Universe' it's like donating your body to science.

Also, I think that terminally ill people may volunteer to become hasks or parts of a new Reaper. Just like they can allow their organs to be available for implanting to other people in need.

[Ageless Face]

I myself not really attracted to the idea. Ignoring the fact there are quite enough reapers in the galaxy and I don't see a need to create more, "ascend" organic bodies to the reapers... It just doesn't feel right. Even if they will volunteer. And not only that there will be so few who will actually want it, which could lead for people been forced to give up their bodies to the reapers after their death since building a reaper will take massive amount of bodies, but there is also the fact religious groups will take moves against the reapers because of it (if they won't make the reapers their enemies anyway).

I don't really see a good outcome from this.

Modifié par HagarIshay, 03 juillet 2012 - 10:03 .

[D24O]

IMO my Shepard wouldn't consent to making new reapers. If anything, he would want to phase them out, let the galaxy assume their function until it's able to take care of itself, and make its own way. Unless aliens from another galaxy attack, then the reapers might be needed.

[Seival]

HagarIshay wrote...

I myself not really attracted to the idea. Ignoring the fact there are quite enough reapers in the galaxy and I don't see a need to create more, "ascend" organic bodies to the reapers... It just doesn't feel right. Even if they will volunteer. And not only that there will be so few who will actually want it, which could lead for people been forced to give up their bodies to the reapers after their death since building a reaper will take massive amount of bodies, but there is also the fact religious groups will take moves against the reapers because of it (if they won't make the reapers their enemies anyway).

I don't really see a good outcome from this.

I think that Catalist Shepard can make sure that noone will be forced to sacrifice.

How could it work? I think that it will be clearly stated that you only can become part of a Reaper or a hask if you will come to the Reapers' representatives and say: "I want to become a hask or a part of a Reaper". Then you will be asked for the reasons of your decision. And there are only two acceptable reasons: your lifetime is coming to an end, or you are terminally ill. In other cases the Reapers will refuse the request. And it will be impossible to bring someone's dead or unconscious body and say: "He wanted to become a hask". Such requests will be refused.

Catalist Shepard can handle each request personally. It has enough processing power and Reapers/Hasks to do so.

...It could be a way of helping people, not creating a new army of the Reapers. Catalist already has millions upon millions of them. But such traditions could replenish some minor Reapers' casualties, if there will be any. It will be just a mutually beneficial cooperation. Noone will be forced.

Modifié par Seival, 03 juillet 2012 - 10:35 .

[Seival]

...I mean, what if the Catalist will have to defend Galactic Civilization from the Reapers' creators. Or someone even more dangerous. In this case there will be some casualties among the Reapers. And some people (who volunteer before they died) could really help the entire Galactic Civilization even after death.

[Ageless Face]

Seival wrote...
I think that Catalist Shepard can make sure that noone will be forced to sacrifice.

The problem is, that it's not true. There can be enough ways to make it work. If Shepard will even know about this. S/he can simply figure that everyone are doing it voluntarily, not knowing what the heck people are doing on the galaxy. And that's assuming Shepard will even care anymore for such sentimentalities as what will people do with their own bodies. No emotions, remember?
 

 
How could it work? I think that it will be clearly stated that you only can become part of a Reaper or a hask if you come to the Reapers's representatives and say: "I want to become a hask or a part of a Reaper". Then you will be asked for the reasons of your decision. And there are only two acceptable reasons: your lifetime is coming to an end, or you are terminally ill. In other cases the Reapers will refuse the request. And it will be impossible to bring someone's dead or unconscious body and say: "He wanted to become a hask". Such requests will be refused.

 

I definitly see how it will work. Theoritically. But I REALLY doubt people will accept to do such a thing. And like I said, there will be such little amount of people actually wanting to do it, creating a reaper will take a long time. When it took, like, two years to build half a human reaper. I really think people will start to be impatiant and forcing people to give their bodies, just for it to go faster. 


But I guess the idea can work out, if executed properly. I myself just don't like it. It won't be a part of my headcanon 

Modifié par HagarIshay, 03 juillet 2012 - 10:52 .

[nitefyre410]

HagarIshay wrote...

I myself not really attracted to the idea. Ignoring the fact there are quite enough reapers in the galaxy and I don't see a need to create more, "ascend" organic bodies to the reapers... It just doesn't feel right. Even if they will volunteer. And not only that there will be so few who will actually want it, which could lead for people been forced to give up their bodies to the reapers after their death since building a reaper will take massive amount of bodies, but there is also the fact religious groups will take moves against the reapers because of it (if they won't make the reapers their enemies anyway).

I don't really see a good outcome from this.

 

No not by  turning people into goo but I could see  this Catalyst building new and improved  Reapers  being purely tech based.  Through i think he would us different form than the Gaint Cuttlefish of doom.   The same thing with Husk , Banshee, Mauraders, Brutes and Cannibals.. The whole Reaper fleet would  upgrade retooled to be less imposing looking to  people... the would act more like Golems now.  

but the Harvesting and processing method is dead and buried... The new Catalyst could not and would not do that.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 03 juillet 2012 - 10:55 .

[D24O]

Seival wrote...

...I mean, what if the Catalist will have to defend Galactic Civilization from the Reapers' creators. Or someone even more dangerous. In this case there will be some casualties among the Reapers. And some people (who volunteer before they died) could really help the entire Galactic Civilization even after death.

It would have to be a desperate threat for my Shepard to consider that an option. I guess as Shepalyst he would be more logical than he was in his mortal form, but still, that would be a VERY extreme circumstance.