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So, the Illusive Man was right after all [Control Ending support thread]


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CrutchCricket wrote...

I love how it looks like Garrus is fist-bumping ReaperShep.

Bros for (the rest of Garrus') life!

 

hmmm I'm looking that hearts over Garrus head... i think that Reaper-Shepard my at one time be a Female Shepard 

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What so... they're actually holding hands?

Damn it! Cannot unsee!

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HagarIshay wrote...

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I think that Catalist Shepard can make sure that noone will be forced to sacrifice.


The problem is, that it's not true. There can be enough ways to make it work. If Shepard will even know about this. S/he can simply figure that everyone are doing it voluntarily, not knowing what the heck people are doing on the galaxy. And that's assuming Shepard will even care anymore for such sentimentalities as what will people do with their own bodies. No emotions, remember?
 

 
How could it work? I think that it will be clearly stated that you only can become part of a Reaper or a hask if you come to the Reapers's representatives and say: "I want to become a hask or a part of a Reaper". Then you will be asked for the reasons of your decision. And there are only two acceptable reasons: your lifetime is coming to an end, or you are terminally ill. In other cases the Reapers will refuse the request. And it will be impossible to bring someone's dead or unconscious body and say: "He wanted to become a hask". Such requests will be refused.

 

I definitly see how it will work. Theoritically. But I REALLY doubt people will accept to do such a thing. And like I said, there will be such little amount of people actually wanting to do it, creating a reaper will take a long time. When it took, like, two years to build half a human reaper. I really think people will start to be impatiant and forcing people to give their bodies, just for it to go faster. 


But I guess the idea can work out, if executed properly. I myself just don't like it. It won't be a part of my headcanon :lol:


Well, I think that the idea could actually work differently for Paragon and Renegade. Renegade will definitely force this way of creating the Reapers, while Paragon will not. And both of them will actually understand that the idea must be used very carefull.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

What so... they're actually holding hands?

Damn it! Cannot unsee!

 

:lol:   

 how did you miss the hearts over Garrus's head.?  LOL 

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Nice one :)

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Tried to search Control Ending fan art myself... Not much fan art about this ending indeed. All existing pictures were already posted in this thread most likely. I hope some fans will make a lot of art about this ending eventually... Maybe I should try to create something myself? But I'm not actually an artist :)

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This a video  Razviolet in the Femshep support thread  made for his Shepard Cora who picked the  control ending..

This one of the best Tribute vids  I have seen the music is very fitting 

Cora Shepard  Tribute -  The Truth   

can we see if we can get this on the OP for the thread its really just that good.

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I suddenly have a disturbing image of tentacles and the LI.

Mass Effect 4: When Reapers go Wild!

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DistantUtopia wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

*snip* 


I suddenly have a disturbing image of tentacles and the LI.

Mass Effect 4: When Reapers go Wild!

 


Oh  goodness  :pinched:   

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nitefyre410 wrote...

This a video  Razviolet in the Femshep support thread  made for his Shepard Cora who picked the  control ending..

This one of the best Tribute vids  I have seen the music is very fitting 

Cora Shepard  Tribute -  The Truth   

can we see if we can get this on the OP for the thread its really just that good.


Nice video. And currently I'm making my own :D

I think it's good idea to post Control Ending support videos here.

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Seival wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

This a video  Razviolet in the Femshep support thread  made for his Shepard Cora who picked the  control ending..

This one of the best Tribute vids  I have seen the music is very fitting 

Cora Shepard  Tribute -  The Truth   

can we see if we can get this on the OP for the thread its really just that good.


Nice video. And currently I'm making my own :D

I think it's good idea to post Control Ending support videos here.


I'm interested in watching

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Can't seem to find it and I'm a little lazy to browse all 1000+ pages but does it state anywhere if the Reaper indoctrination effect is something passive to Reapers or an active toggle? We know the dead Reaper in ME2 was still indoctrinating people.

'Cause if it's passive, doesn't this mean Shepard can't stay near any organics?

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DistantUtopia wrote...

Can't seem to find it and I'm a little lazy to browse all 1000+ pages but does it state anywhere if the Reaper indoctrination effect is something passive to Reapers or an active toggle? We know the dead Reaper in ME2 was still indoctrinating people.

'Cause if it's passive, doesn't this mean Shepard can't stay near any organics?


Earlier in this thread, several people theorized that it's more of a toggle. While nothing officially states that it is permanent/toggled there are two ideas behind it. First evidence does support that even dead reapers can indoctrinate which seems like it would be constantly active. Though it would be hard to believe that the Catalyst could not turn this on an off.

Since the Reapers are synthetic they could have a device inside of/attached to them which could be used even while the creature is dead. So it's up in the air, though...... if you have a Paragon Shepard-Reaper.... why would he continue to indoctrinate.

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Moshaaver wrote...

DistantUtopia wrote...

Can't seem to find it and I'm a little lazy to browse all 1000+ pages but does it state anywhere if the Reaper indoctrination effect is something passive to Reapers or an active toggle? We know the dead Reaper in ME2 was still indoctrinating people.

'Cause if it's passive, doesn't this mean Shepard can't stay near any organics?


Earlier in this thread, several people theorized that it's more of a toggle. While nothing officially states that it is permanent/toggled there are two ideas behind it. First evidence does support that even dead reapers can indoctrinate which seems like it would be constantly active. Though it would be hard to believe that the Catalyst could not turn this on an off.

Since the Reapers are synthetic they could have a device inside of/attached to them which could be used even while the creature is dead. So it's up in the air, though...... if you have a Paragon Shepard-Reaper.... why would he continue to indoctrinate.


Yup, I can't see a Paragon Shep continuing to.  It's more of speculation that if it was passive and not a toggle, then it would partially make Shep a tragic hero as well since as part of defending the Galaxy, he can no longer interact with his LI or "The Many" they are trying to protect because of the risk of indoctrination.  Of course, given Shepard isn't the Shepard we know but a Catalyst/Shep imprint, that may be a moot point too.

Gah, so much speculation!

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I prefer the speculation that even though Shepard has ascended he is still the same person, just on a different plan of existence. That could fit with the 'man I was i dead' stuff. It's still speculative but that's what endings are about.

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DistantUtopia wrote...

Can't seem to find it and I'm a little lazy to browse all 1000+ pages but does it state anywhere if the Reaper indoctrination effect is something passive to Reapers or an active toggle? We know the dead Reaper in ME2 was still indoctrinating people.

'Cause if it's passive, doesn't this mean Shepard can't stay near any organics?

 

Looking reading the codex entry on Indocrination it mentions that it can be slow or rapid.  Slow  Indoctrination  has a better effect than rapid.  So by that  alone its heavily implied that Indoctrination is controled . 

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nitefyre410 wrote...

DistantUtopia wrote...

Can't seem to find it and I'm a little lazy to browse all 1000+ pages but does it state anywhere if the Reaper indoctrination effect is something passive to Reapers or an active toggle? We know the dead Reaper in ME2 was still indoctrinating people.

'Cause if it's passive, doesn't this mean Shepard can't stay near any organics?

 

Looking reading the codex entry on Indocrination it mentions that it can be slow or rapid.  Slow  Indoctrination  has a better effect than rapid.  So by that  alone its heavily implied that Indoctrination is controled . 


It's like a fan with High Medium Low and Off :P

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Moshaaver wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

DistantUtopia wrote...

Can't seem to find it and I'm a little lazy to browse all 1000+ pages but does it state anywhere if the Reaper indoctrination effect is something passive to Reapers or an active toggle? We know the dead Reaper in ME2 was still indoctrinating people.

'Cause if it's passive, doesn't this mean Shepard can't stay near any organics?

 

Looking reading the codex entry on Indocrination it mentions that it can be slow or rapid.  Slow  Indoctrination  has a better effect than rapid.  So by that  alone its heavily implied that Indoctrination is controled . 


It's like a fan with High Medium Low and Off :P

 

Pretty much, amony other things... with settings  


The Shepard/Catalyst nerve -stim program  platium deluxe collectors edition.   For her pleasure infinite and eternal.  
:bandit::devil:   


Bioware seriously,  Control is too good to be true... I could spend months  doing this.  

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Also the slides of Reapers rebuilding London (were they indoctrinating people as they were doing it?) and even more of them in synthesis.

I'm fairly certain there's an off switch.

And even if there isn't I believe Commander can project a holographic representation of itself within range of any Reaper artifact and not all of them indoctrinate. Then there's creating a humanoid body...

You can't cut him off from organics. Like you literally can't.

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Moshaaver wrote...
So it's up in the air, though...... if you have a Paragon Shepard-Reaper.... why would he continue to indoctrinate.


As a safeguard against galactic wars? Could be similar to the Thorian: you are allowed to continue your life as you see fit as long as you do not act against the wishes of the Shepard. Those wishes and what constitutes as acting against them would of course be determined by who Shepard was. Shows again how dependent the morality of control is on who is the one that wields this virtually unlimited power.

My point is that just because you are indoctrinated it does not necessarily follow that you are actually being controlled. But it's a slippery slope as always with the control option. Optimal solution would probably be if the Shepard just rebuilds the galaxy and then retreats into dark space or flies the reapers into a black hole.

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Hmh, it's possible that Catalyst Shepard can reduce indoctrination instead.

So it would take like few months to indoctrinate common people, if they are near a Reaper.
So only volunteers and synthetics would be allowed to be near a Reaper for long time.


And even then, you can be indoctrinated and still have free will until a Reaper or Shepard decides otherwise.
For example, looks at Rana Thanoptis.

She was indoctrinated whole time, but still had free will until Reapers decided to use her to kill high ranking asari officers.

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An Amazing piece  by  Stellarstatelogic  called  Light and Darkness(My Archangel)  inspired by the  Control ending. 

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CrutchCricket wrote...

Also the slides of Reapers rebuilding London (were they indoctrinating people as they were doing it?) and even more of them in synthesis.

I'm fairly certain there's an off switch.

And even if there isn't I believe Commander can project a holographic representation of itself within range of any Reaper artifact and not all of them indoctrinate. Then there's creating a humanoid body...

You can't cut him off from organics. Like you literally can't.


Oooh, didn't think about that.  Maybe he can also project himself into a body like EDI's.

I still don't believe it's Shepard given I take the ending at literal face value but at least he has a body.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

Also the slides of Reapers rebuilding London (were they indoctrinating people as they were doing it?) and even more of them in synthesis.

I'm fairly certain there's an off switch.

And even if there isn't I believe Commander can project a holographic representation of itself within range of any Reaper artifact and not all of them indoctrinate. Then there's creating a humanoid body...

You can't cut him off from organics. Like you literally can't.

 

The way I did in my headcanon was that he was able to make a soild light construct of him  and have a Reaper serve as his messenger... the Reaper a Destroyer aptly named Apostle 

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nitefyre410 wrote...
The way I did in my headcanon was that he was able to make a soild light construct of him  and have a Reaper serve as his messenger... the Reaper a Destroyer aptly named Apostle 

Or an occulus. It could go just about anywhere.

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I still don't believe it's Shepard given I take the ending at literal face value but at least he has a body.

Well... it's not technically Shepard. But there is continuity. Check the link in my sig.