I find the most stupid thing about brutes to be their description. "The fighting power of a krogan, combined with the keen military mind of a turian." Yeah, and you know what that keen military mind does? Charge. Like an idiot.HagarIshay wrote...
Anyone ever wonder how does a Krogan and a Turian get into one spike that creates a Brute? Seems a bit big to me. They probably use another method to create them... God, thinking about it is just gross.
Never mind.
The Vanguards would like to have a word with you...estebanus wrote...
I find the most stupid thing about brutes to be their description. "The fighting power of a krogan, combined with the keen military mind of a turian." Yeah, and you know what that keen military mind does? Charge. Like an idiot.
Way to screw up, reapers!
Modifié par HagarIshay, 25 juillet 2012 - 11:56 .
I don't deny their effectiveness but no way would organics consent to their continued presence, given that they symbolize all their suffering by Reaper hands.Seival wrote...
nitefyre410 wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
They don't feel pain, exhaustion, fear or ask for renumeration. Just put them to work.CrutchCricket wrote...
Husks serve no purpose once the war is over. They are also a symbol of the atrocities the Reapers inflicted. They are all destroyed.
I was thinking the same thing. They would great as a labor force to assist with Search and Rescue among other things.
By the way, most Hasks could be really good in Search and Resque tasks, which are very important after the war... Well, only Batarian hasks aren't good for that (they have no proper hands for that).
pirate1802 wrote...
Because stupid reapers are stupid.
CrutchCricket wrote...
I don't deny their effectiveness but no way would organics consent to their continued presence, given that they symbolize all their suffering by Reaper hands.Seival wrote...
nitefyre410 wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
They don't feel pain, exhaustion, fear or ask for renumeration. Just put them to work.CrutchCricket wrote...
Husks serve no purpose once the war is over. They are also a symbol of the atrocities the Reapers inflicted. They are all destroyed.
I was thinking the same thing. They would great as a labor force to assist with Search and Rescue among other things.
By the way, most Hasks could be really good in Search and Resque tasks, which are very important after the war... Well, only Batarian hasks aren't good for that (they have no proper hands for that).
The unrest it would cause outweighs their benefits.
And what would Commander really need them for? It fixes the relays but I doubt it's going to clean up Central Park afterwards or help build that orphanage for vent brats. I don't see it spending any significant time in plain view of organics.
Modifié par Seival, 25 juillet 2012 - 08:53 .
Man, you're one of the few who are realisitic about the control ending, I wish yo could assume direct control of this thread... How is your own thread going ?CrutchCricket wrote...
Rachni are old news. They didn't try to wipe out all life just yesterday. And they didn't turn your family and loved ones into techno-zombies.
There is no scenario in which husks are accepted, or indeed acceptable to galactic society. And Commander gains nothing by consciously antagonizing organics by keeping them around.
Modifié par Uncle Jo, 26 juillet 2012 - 02:17 .
Seival wrote...
pirate1802 wrote...
Because stupid reapers are stupid.
Not stupid. Mindless. They are just mobile platforms. And the original Catalyst never had some military training I believe.
, and by reaper I meant the big daddy reapers like Harby and Sovvy, they indeed demonstrate some degree of stupidity throughout the three games. Guess thats what they get by being controlled by such a stupid kid.
lol thanks. Though I can't assume control of this thread because Seival hasn't lowered the space elevator... yet:PUncle Jo wrote...
Man, you're one of the few who are realisitic about the control ending, I wish yo could assume direct control of this thread... How is your own thread going ?
CrutchCricket wrote...
Rachni are old news. They didn't try to wipe out all life just yesterday. And they didn't turn your family and loved ones into techno-zombies.
There is no scenario in which husks are accepted, or indeed acceptable to galactic society. And Commander gains nothing by consciously antagonizing organics by keeping them around.
Uncle Jo wrote...
Man, you're one of the few who are realisitic about the control ending, I wish yo could assume direct control of this thread... How is your own thread going ?CrutchCricket wrote...
Rachni are old news. They didn't try to wipe out all life just yesterday. And they didn't turn your family and loved ones into techno-zombies.
There is no scenario in which husks are accepted, or indeed acceptable to galactic society. And Commander gains nothing by consciously antagonizing organics by keeping them around.
Modifié par Seival, 26 juillet 2012 - 11:44 .
No they will not be tolerated for the same reasons that concentration camps aren't repurposed as day spas. Sorry to Godwin it but you're not seeing the atrocity husks represent.Seival wrote...
Well, I didn't actually say that Husks should be accepted by society. Hasks' integration is about Synthesis option, not Control. I said they can be tolerated, while helping to rebuild or helping in any other way.
And Rachni... I think that for common people they look even more scary and alien than Husks, no matter they are "old news". Common people just don't know that Husks and the Reapers are much more dangerous than the Rachni. For commoners they are equally dangerous, but Rachni don't even look like something humanoid.
That's not a bad way to look at it and it's similar to mine actually. The endings are ****ing terrible and invalidate just about everything the entire series. We tried fighting it and lost. So apathy set in. And I thought **** it, if the whole ME world is going to hell might as well end up a machine god.The Real Bowser wrote...
Not really a big fan of the endings, control doesn't really mean as much to me, but I do like the Geth banner. The Quarian-Rannoch War was my favorite part of the game, and my first playthrough I was unable to save both and sided with Legion and the geth and witnessed the most tragic scene I've ever had the pleasure (or displeasure?) of watching.
Anyways, I'll post here. Why not. Blue's as good as any color, eh? And if I were Shepard, I would have probably picked control, if that means anything.
CrutchCricket wrote...
That's not a bad way to look at it and it's similar to mine actually. The endings are ****ing terrible and invalidate just about everything the entire series. We tried fighting it and lost. So apathy set in. And I thought **** it, if the whole ME world is going to hell might as well end up a machine god.The Real Bowser wrote...
Not really a big fan of the endings, control doesn't really mean as much to me, but I do like the Geth banner. The Quarian-Rannoch War was my favorite part of the game, and my first playthrough I was unable to save both and sided with Legion and the geth and witnessed the most tragic scene I've ever had the pleasure (or displeasure?) of watching.
Anyways, I'll post here. Why not. Blue's as good as any color, eh? And if I were Shepard, I would have probably picked control, if that means anything.
The implications of Control are fascinating. Not something I would've said fits with ME but hey. Just making the best of it.
Our_Last_Scene wrote...
One thing I thought the Control ending implied was that Shepard would use the Reapers to protect from extra-galactic threats.
HagarIshay wrote...
The Vanguards would like to have a word with you...estebanus wrote...
I find the most stupid thing about brutes to be their description. "The fighting power of a krogan, combined with the keen military mind of a turian." Yeah, and you know what that keen military mind does? Charge. Like an idiot.
Way to screw up, reapers!
But never mind that. The question is: Since when do husks have minds?
And why does a Marauder never charge?
Seival wrote...
Hasks have no minds. They all are as good in combat as the Catalist. Just imagine how effective in combat all Hasks and Reaper Ships will become with Shepard-Catalist. Each Human Hask will be better than Kai Leng in melee combat for example
HagarIshay wrote...
Seival wrote...
Hasks have no minds. They all are as good in combat as the Catalist. Just imagine how effective in combat all Hasks and Reaper Ships will become with Shepard-Catalist. Each Human Hask will be better than Kai Leng in melee combat for example
Nah. I won't let Husks live long enough to start growing super powers.
For one, I don't want AI Shepard to intevere with galactic wars. Try and prevent if possible. But not taking sides. And giving husks to militaries will only make mean to take sides. Self defence? No need husks to do that. In the case it'll actually happen.
And there is also the problem I said earlier. If you will let the husks do everything, you will quickly end up in something like Wall-E movie. Or simply everyone will be out of a job except for the richest and most influential people. Letting the perfect worker work, and the not so perfect worker is gone.
Modifié par Seival, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:19 .
Seival wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
Seival wrote...
Hasks have no minds. They all are as good in combat as the Catalist. Just imagine how effective in combat all Hasks and Reaper Ships will become with Shepard-Catalist. Each Human Hask will be better than Kai Leng in melee combat for example
Nah. I won't let Husks live long enough to start growing super powers.
For one, I don't want AI Shepard to intevere with galactic wars. Try and prevent if possible. But not taking sides. And giving husks to militaries will only make mean to take sides. Self defence? No need husks to do that. In the case it'll actually happen.
And there is also the problem I said earlier. If you will let the husks do everything, you will quickly end up in something like Wall-E movie. Or simply everyone will be out of a job except for the richest and most influential people. Letting the perfect worker work, and the not so perfect worker is gone.
Well, as I said, I believe that Shepard-Catalist will be involved only in something major after helping to rebuild. It also might help Shepard's friends with something not that major I suppose. And after helping with rebuild, all Reaper Ships and hasks will be moved out of sight, but remain close enough to offer some help if really needed.
Yes, Shepard-Catalist will never take sides in Galactic Conflicts. But it will remain nearby and act in a manner which will make everyone to believe that there is no force which actually helping them sometimes.
Modifié par plain numbers, 26 juillet 2012 - 11:20 .
plain numbers wrote...
Seival wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
Seival wrote...
Hasks have no minds. They all are as good in combat as the Catalist. Just imagine how effective in combat all Hasks and Reaper Ships will become with Shepard-Catalist. Each Human Hask will be better than Kai Leng in melee combat for example
Nah. I won't let Husks live long enough to start growing super powers.
For one, I don't want AI Shepard to intevere with galactic wars. Try and prevent if possible. But not taking sides. And giving husks to militaries will only make mean to take sides. Self defence? No need husks to do that. In the case it'll actually happen.
And there is also the problem I said earlier. If you will let the husks do everything, you will quickly end up in something like Wall-E movie. Or simply everyone will be out of a job except for the richest and most influential people. Letting the perfect worker work, and the not so perfect worker is gone.
Well, as I said, I believe that Shepard-Catalist will be involved only in something major after helping to rebuild. It also might help Shepard's friends with something not that major I suppose. And after helping with rebuild, all Reaper Ships and hasks will be moved out of sight, but remain close enough to offer some help if really needed.
Yes, Shepard-Catalist will never take sides in Galactic Conflicts. But it will remain nearby and act in a manner which will make everyone to believe that there is no force which actually helping them sometimes.
So what you're saying actually is that your Shep would be a kind of a neutral Observer who comes into the scene only when needed, always aiming for the general welfare of the galaxy. And I guess to each their own, but since we're discussing here, lemme just say that what you're derscribing is the exact opposite of what Control really means to me.
If you're an outsider and just act when (you think it's) needed, then the only thing you're gonna end up being in the end is a god, or a god-like figure of some sort for many civilizations of the galaxy, both already developed and yet to come. You will become The Shepard Savior, who always watches over the galaxy and intervenes when necessary, again the God of the Milky Way especially since you saved it once already. The strange part comes when, by doing all this, you'll essentially move on to destroy all you've done and come to represent to everyone during the trilogy.
Shepard --and now regardless of what he/she chose to do in the end (Control/Synthesize/Destroy)-- was the very human and mortal hero who, despite the odds, went up against the Reapers and won(??). The second game does a really good job emphasizing the importance of Shepard as an icon of inspiration for everyone in the galaxy (the very first scene of the game makes this clear with Miranda, I think, or TIM saying it). And of course you have Anderson in ME3 telling you that they couldn't have done it without you, Hackett more or less the same, and pretty much everyone in there reminding you how important you are for the sake of the galaxy, not only your friends or species.
And that's, again, not because you're a superman of some sort but because you've come to represent, through your actions, hope when there's no reason to have any. You're the only one who has killed a Reaper before, both with help and alone, but never with an outsider's intervention. It was just you, your squad and soldiers from many different species following your guidance, not an outsider's.
So, in my version of it, Shepard gets the hell out as soon as he takes control and saves the day, and maybe after he does something about the Relays if possible. There's no petting of the galaxy here or eternal protection or anything like that. There's gonna be some study about whether the Reapers can continue to exist somewhere in the universe and that's it. By being an active outsider you'll just nurture a whole galaxy into waiting for your guidance each time something goes wrong, essentially destroying the idea you yourself built in 3 games: that any difficulty can be dealt with when faced with determination by people who won't give up. You're an icon for everyone after saving the galaxy, The Shepard who defeated the Reapers, a previously undefeated force, by merely believing he/she could do it and putting everything he/she had into it. There was no help from outside, and by doing all this you teached everyone how it's done pretty much. Don't ruin it now.
My 2 cents on your theory.
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