HagarIshay wrote...
estebanus wrote...
ARGH! AWAY WITH THAT DISGUSTING IDEA! YOU'RE ONE OF MASSTER BLASTER'S FOLLOWERS!!!
YOU JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE!!!! WE CAN DO IT!!!
JUST OPEN YOURSELF TO THE INTERENET ESTEBANUS.
EMBRACE ITERNITY!
Seival wrote...
estebanus wrote...
TJBartlemus wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
estebanus wrote...
Yeah, we've also got an ITer with a synthesis banner, believe it or not.
HA! Good one
You're not serious, are you?
estebanus is ALWAYS serious...but I think that we probably do. Wouldn't surprise me. Also I have got to give praise to this thread in that it has cooler banners. Actually, thinking about it, the IT thread really doesn't have any or at least doesn't have a lot.
Yeah, the control banners are awesome. Cookies to whoever made them.
Thanks
I made them actually. And I'll make more, when I'll have time. Right now I'm creating my first full scale (1920x1080) fan-art about Control Ending. The picture is about 70% ready.
...If only I was a professional artist, then I could make it much faster and better. But unfortunately, I'm not.
estebanus wrote...
I will have you know that I already have embraced the IT. But Masster Blaster... Well, let's just say his ideas do make me laugh, and leave it at that.
pirate1802 wrote...
As for control being paragon, my pure paragon Shep picked control because:
1. She was not willing to commit genocide.
2. She was not willing to play god on the galaxy.
So she grabbed the reins of control. It might not have been what she had planned returning to Earth, but faced with the choices in that decision chamber, this is what she picked because this was the option that fulfilled most of the (paragon) goals. She had an issue with TIM over control because of the differences in its intended use, and its viability. Not because she considers it inherently evil or something. If she sees something that lets her save everyone without playing god she'll take it, nevermind its her enemy's idea. If that makes her a hypocrite, then SO BE IT!
The problem with his idea is that you can't combine two negating theories. Both of them hinge on disproving the other. That would be the same like trying to combine evolutionism with creationism! They just don't fit.HagarIshay wrote...
estebanus wrote...
I will have you know that I already have embraced the IT. But Masster Blaster... Well, let's just say his ideas do make me laugh, and leave it at that.
His idea was nice but it just... didn't make any sense. How can you make a theory about the ending with people who don't believe there should even be a theory about the meaning behind the endings? Isn't there is a reason why you call us literalists?
Troika1138 wrote...
Seival wrote...
estebanus wrote...
TJBartlemus wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
estebanus wrote...
Yeah, we've also got an ITer with a synthesis banner, believe it or not.
HA! Good one
You're not serious, are you?
estebanus is ALWAYS serious...
Yeah, the control banners are awesome. Cookies to whoever made them.
Thanks
I made them actually. And I'll make more, when I'll have time. Right now I'm creating my first full scale (1920x1080) fan-art about Control Ending. The picture is about 70% ready.
...If only I was a professional artist, then I could make it much faster and better. But unfortunately, I'm not.
Do you have a "Does this unit have a soul?" / "The answer to your question is yes." Banner in the works?
Also this tread has made me want to pick the control ending with one of my Sheps now I just need to pick the right one to take over the reapers. Granted first playthrough I picked destroy becasue I didn't trust anyone with that kind of power and I wanted to keep reaper tech out of the wrong hands. Also becasue of that Shep breathing part I figured that the reapers had lied about EDI and the Geth being destroyed but that was pre EC, now I know better.
TJBartlemus wrote...
estebanus wrote...
Huh. Good job.
Me, I'm more of a writer than an artist. Never could get those colours to work. The pen however, is a very different story...
I am more writer than artist myself as well. All you would have to do is read my WNT entries in my signature for that to be evident. Also some could argue writing is an art.
Seivel, maybe you could help me with some banners or at least teach me how to do that. I currently have to idea how to start....and it's a shame cause I really want to get a cool banner out for WNT too.
estebanus wrote...
I knda find it interesting what destroy and control represent in the EC epilogue.
Destroy hinges more on the combined species forming a better bond amongst each other. That no species will ever abandon the other again. Granted, there will be challenges, but nothing that they can't overcome. Hence Hackett's "Together, we can forge a galaxy greater than any one of us can imagine."
Control seems more like the reapers doing it all, which also isn't bad of course. It just seems to me that in that epilogue, the species don't really work together like they did during the war. It's like they just sit back and let the reapers do everything for them. Hence Shepard's "I will lead the many into a future greater than they could possibly imagine."
Synthesis... Well, I still can't figure that one out, and I probably never will...
estebanus wrote...
Yeah, we've also got an ITer with a synthesis banner, believe it or not.
I got rid of the banner, it attracts unnecessary attention :/ , but I can put it back if you like!
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Modifié par Davescarface, 31 juillet 2012 - 08:26 .
That's one of the fundamental reasons I chose destroy. Control may advance the galaxy further, but the galaxy didn't really "deserve" this, did they? I mean, it's not technology that they themselves earned. They got it from the reapers. Also, the different species of the galaxy will not form such a tight bond in control as they would have in destroy.HagarIshay wrote...
estebanus wrote...
I knda find it interesting what destroy and control represent in the EC epilogue.
Destroy hinges more on the combined species forming a better bond amongst each other. That no species will ever abandon the other again. Granted, there will be challenges, but nothing that they can't overcome. Hence Hackett's "Together, we can forge a galaxy greater than any one of us can imagine."
Control seems more like the reapers doing it all, which also isn't bad of course. It just seems to me that in that epilogue, the species don't really work together like they did during the war. It's like they just sit back and let the reapers do everything for them. Hence Shepard's "I will lead the many into a future greater than they could possibly imagine."
Synthesis... Well, I still can't figure that one out, and I probably never will...
Well, destroy is a more pro- organic choice. Control is more of a pro-new reapers. Or pro- AI Shep. I perfer the latter myself...
In destroy, the organics will find their strength through themselves. It'll take them longer, but they will do everything in their own time, without any outside help. Indepent. Every choice they make now, will be their own.
Control, the reapers will help carry the galaxy further. They'll bring the galaxy into a new age, new advancements. The galaxy will vastly advance with the reapers' help.
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CrutchCricket wrote...
Even before the disconnect I doubt Commander will actually share a lot of tech. The dangers were already apparent to him as a human. They'll be even more magnified now.
And I don't think organics will be as accepting either. Again for the same reasons and also for distrust of the Reapers themselves. The age of complacency is over.
If it does interfere, Commander will work in the background, subtly influencing events away from catastrophic consequences.
The follies of tech unearned is a running theme in the whole series. Have we learned nothing from the krogan or the geth? To say nothing of the Citadel and relays themselves? It's not about posing a threat to Commander. Like I said before, leaving guns around for kids to find is just as irresponsible, even if you're the Hulk (or someone similarly bulletproof). Think about that age of strife I was talking about. Synthesis escalates the conflict from a bare-knuckle brawl to nuclear war. Must Commander make the same mistake? Willingly? And finally since I've modeled my ideas of control so extensively on Watchmen, think again on what seemingly limitless resources unearned has wrought. Is Manhattan giving the US everything it needs making things better? Or just speeding up the inevitable doom?HagarIshay wrote...
I see no reason why AI Shep won't share the tech. Reapers will still advance, with the kind of technology they have they'll be able to magnificently imporve themselves. So I doubt the reapers and AI Shep will be in too much of a danger of being threatened by organics. As for the tech being dangerous for organics or even to themselves... Damm the reapers if they don't test their own tech.
And I see no reason why organics won't accept the reapers' help. If the reapers will stay away and help from afar and won't try to interfere with their lives.
Remeber, to everyone else the Reapers just inexplicably stopped attacking after that aesthetically pleasing blue pulse. They have no idea that there's a new control entity, they have no idea there's a control entity at all
Obviously they'd be happy. They get to live a little longer. But for how long?Lord Goose wrote...
'Reapers were reprogrammed by Crucible".
Why can not it be the explanation. Also, they all are obviously happy that Reapers start to fly away?
Lord Goose wrote...
Remeber, to everyone else the Reapers just inexplicably stopped attacking after that aesthetically pleasing blue pulse. They have no idea that there's a new control entity, they have no idea there's a control entity at all
'Reapers were reprogrammed by Crucible".
Why can not it be the explanation. Also, they all are obviously happy that Reapers start to fly away?
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CrutchCricket wrote...
Even before the disconnect I doubt Commander will actually share a lot of tech. The dangers were already apparent to him as a human. They'll be even more magnified now.
And I don't think organics will be as accepting either. Again for the same reasons and also for distrust of the Reapers themselves. The age of complacency is over.
If it does interfere, Commander will work in the background, subtly influencing events away from catastrophic consequences.
The only real advantage galactic civilization gets in Control is the relays rebuilt in record time (and they get to keep their DNA unmolested). Personally, I even have Commander take away the Citadel. Too dangerous to have them explore it in full.
As for "tight bonds" I actually think an age of strife as just around the corner regardless of ending choice. With the reaper threat over people are going to start remembering the **** other races pulled (hoarding tech, secret uplifiting, genophage etc). They're gonna start blaming some of those people. And tensions will rise and bad blood will need to be cleared. The galactic sociopolitical scene is going to look mighty different in a couple of years.
Modifié par Seival, 31 juillet 2012 - 08:36 .
incinerator950 wrote...
Pretty sure there is a slide where Shepard said they'd rebuild what the Reapers destroyed. Not just the Relays.
Learning it is fine. If you can learn it, it means you are ready for it (at its most simplest anyway).pirate1802 wrote...
But what decides whether we are "ready" for certain tech or not? We completed the crucible (something not accomplished ever before), united the whole damn galaxy, again an unprecedented accomplishment, punched through the reaper lines, and docked it. Then we fired it and ended a billion-old cycle of destruction. I say we have earned the right to learn some new tech.
Modifié par CrutchCricket, 31 juillet 2012 - 09:01 .
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