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[Dwailing]

pirate1802 wrote...

TheStupidJellyFish wrote...

Which is what I do not get.

How is control potrayed as more positive than destroy? The destroy epilogue also has a sense of hope.

Only synthesis is potrayed as sugar-sweet to the point one get diabetes just watching it.

But both control and destroy are balanced in their potrayel, hell even refuse ends on a bittersweet note with the stargazer scene.

The only ending that is potrayed as negative is low EMS destroy.

The process of synthesis itself represents the biggest drawback in synthesis. Ask people what they don't like in synthesis, they'd tell you. The sugar-sweet feeling also leads some to believe everyone is indoctrinated.

Well, you have to admit, it seems a little strange in Synthesis that Javik is still alive.  A guy with beliefs like his?  If he was in his right mind, he'd probably have commited suicide the moment he saw what had happened to him and everyone.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Dwailing wrote...

Well, you have to admit, it seems a little strange in Synthesis that Javik is still alive.  A guy with beliefs like his?  If he was in his right mind, he'd probably have commited suicide the moment he saw what had happened to him and everyone.

Well, he probably would do so, or go on a lifelong mission of vengeance on the reapers. In my headcanon I like to think of him as the primary antagonist in a post-synthesis world. The thing is, We only see Javik ONCE, at the memorial scene, and thats probably a short while after the synthesis beam went out. Its perfectly be reasonable that he'd not want to create a scene at his commander's memorial service, and do his stuff after they're done. Heck he may not even have figured out at that time wtf just happened.

[Seival]

Dwailing wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

TheStupidJellyFish wrote...

Which is what I do not get.

How is control potrayed as more positive than destroy? The destroy epilogue also has a sense of hope.

Only synthesis is potrayed as sugar-sweet to the point one get diabetes just watching it.

But both control and destroy are balanced in their potrayel, hell even refuse ends on a bittersweet note with the stargazer scene.

The only ending that is potrayed as negative is low EMS destroy.

The process of synthesis itself represents the biggest drawback in synthesis. Ask people what they don't like in synthesis, they'd tell you. The sugar-sweet feeling also leads some to believe everyone is indoctrinated.

Well, you have to admit, it seems a little strange in Synthesis that Javik is still alive.  A guy with beliefs like his?  If he was in his right mind, he'd probably have commited suicide the moment he saw what had happened to him and everyone.

Being in one team with Shepard might teach Javik a lesson. He could change his mind about the suicide.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Well, regardless, its just one appearance barely lasting seconds people draw all sorts of conclusions based on that. Its like arguing Traynor should jump on EDI in the memorial scene because she find her voice sexy. Or its unrealistic that Joker and EDI doesn't make out in the synthesis memorial scene. I mean just because people are known to behave in a certain way doesn't they will always behave that way regardless of the situation. Especially given the extremely small amount of time (3-4 seconds?) we actually see Javik in the EC.

[Seival]

I created the thread we discussed recently:
http://social.biowar.../index/13527595

Some haters were noticed there, but looks like discussion goes on and has some very positive replies

Modifié par Seival, 05 août 2012 - 10:14 .

[Seival]

pirate1802 wrote...

Well, regardless, its just one appearance barely lasting seconds people draw all sorts of conclusions based on that. Its like arguing Traynor should jump on EDI in the memorial scene because she find her voice sexy. Or its unrealistic that Joker and EDI doesn't make out in the synthesis memorial scene. I mean just because people are known to behave in a certain way doesn't they will always behave that way regardless of the situation. Especially given the extremely small amount of time (3-4 seconds?) we actually see Javik in the EC.

Javik could decide to spend the rest of his life searching for possible Prothean survivors all around the galaxy

[Seival]

pirate1802 wrote...

Oh man.. wishful thinking. I really missed Harby. :/

Maybe the Leviathan and Harbinger will fight 1on1 in the DLC? I think that might happen during the "final run". Levi might damage Harbi or even kill it, but that will not stop Harbi from wounding Shepard.

[Comsky159]

Is control the only ending that takes into account Shepard's personality (i.e. paragon/renegade), or do they all do that to an extent?

[Hoz_Hun]

I support Control Ending.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Comsky159 wrote...

Is control the only ending that takes into account Shepard's personality (i.e. paragon/renegade), or do they all do that to an extent?

I'd love it if someone asnwers this. I assume since in control its Shepard him/herself narrating so your morality plays a bigger role. But it'd be awesome if all endings change slightly based on your alignent.

[Archontor]

Seival wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Oh man.. wishful thinking. I really missed Harby. :/

Maybe the Leviathan and Harbinger will fight 1on1 in the DLC? I think that might happen during the "final run". Levi might damage Harbi or even kill it, but that will not stop Harbi from wounding Shepard.

It was Pressley I think who confirmmed that the Leviathan DLC won't add much more than a line or too to the ending and won't be a significant change. I would call killing or wounding harbinger (or just pulling a Han Solo in general) a significant change no matter how much I agree that would help the ending.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Archontor wrote...

Seival wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Oh man.. wishful thinking. I really missed Harby. :/

Maybe the Leviathan and Harbinger will fight 1on1 in the DLC? I think that might happen during the "final run". Levi might damage Harbi or even kill it, but that will not stop Harbi from wounding Shepard.

It was Pressley I think who confirmmed that the Leviathan DLC won't add much more than a line or too to the ending and won't be a significant change. I would call killing or wounding harbinger (or just pulling a Han Solo in general) a significant change no matter how much I agree that would help the ending.

but but but... It also could be Harbinger being dstracted by Levvy allowing Normandy to escape. That'd be insignificant enough. Anyway I thought the Normandy escape scene in EC was like a placeholder, you know.. how he stares emptily as the ship gets away. And Also, since the player can always select destroy and kill Levvy, my bets are it would be somehow dead already before the choice sequence. Killed by harby?

[Seival]

Archontor wrote...

Seival wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Oh man.. wishful thinking. I really missed Harby. :/

Maybe the Leviathan and Harbinger will fight 1on1 in the DLC? I think that might happen during the "final run". Levi might damage Harbi or even kill it, but that will not stop Harbi from wounding Shepard.

It was Pressley I think who confirmmed that the Leviathan DLC won't add much more than a line or too to the ending and won't be a significant change. I would call killing or wounding harbinger (or just pulling a Han Solo in general) a significant change no matter how much I agree that would help the ending.

Well, I think if Shepard will be wounded in the end anyway, then Levi-vs-Harbi fight will not be a significant change. And that fight could be epic

[Seival]

pirate1802 wrote...

Archontor wrote...

Seival wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Oh man.. wishful thinking. I really missed Harby. :/

Maybe the Leviathan and Harbinger will fight 1on1 in the DLC? I think that might happen during the "final run". Levi might damage Harbi or even kill it, but that will not stop Harbi from wounding Shepard.

It was Pressley I think who confirmmed that the Leviathan DLC won't add much more than a line or too to the ending and won't be a significant change. I would call killing or wounding harbinger (or just pulling a Han Solo in general) a significant change no matter how much I agree that would help the ending.

but but but... It also could be Harbinger being dstracted by Levvy allowing Normandy to escape. That'd be insignificant enough. Anyway I thought the Normandy escape scene in EC was like a placeholder, you know.. how he stares emptily as the ship gets away. And Also, since the player can always select destroy and kill Levvy, my bets are it would be somehow dead already before the choice sequence. Killed by harby?

Just imagine: Harbi have noticed the Normandy and is trying to destroy it, and keeps firing in Shepard's direction as well. Misses several times. Shepard got wounded by an explosion. And when she wakes up, she sees not a leaving Harbi, but Harbi-vs-Levi melee/laser fight on the background.

Modifié par Seival, 06 août 2012 - 04:02 .

[Seival]

Comsky159 wrote...

Is control the only ending that takes into account Shepard's personality (i.e. paragon/renegade), or do they all do that to an extent?

Control is indeed the only ending which has different variants based on Shepard's personality.

Modifié par Seival, 06 août 2012 - 05:39 .

[OdanUrr]

You know what's funny? Control was my preferred ending before the EC. Now I'm not so sure. It reminds me of an excerpt I read in "The Truce at Bakura Sourcebook" where Luke Skywalker has a dream about being a "benign" Emperor. At first, the idea seems like a good one but then he realises it's unfeasible and that he's only deluding himself. Anyone remembers it?

[Seival]

OdanUrr wrote...

You know what's funny? Control was my preferred ending before the EC. Now I'm not so sure. It reminds me of an excerpt I read in "The Truce at Bakura Sourcebook" where Luke Skywalker has a dream about being a "benign" Emperor. At first, the idea seems like a good one but then he realises it's unfeasible and that he's only deluding himself. Anyone remembers it?

Well, everything depends on your own Shepard. If you think she/he is ready, then everything will be ok. And if you don't wanna your Shepard to become a dictator, then you need Paragon Shepard instead of Renegade for Control Ending.

[Seival]

RavenEyry wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Well, so much for diversity among the reapers. Really, why do they all look like cuttlefish?!

Because that's what they look like. They had to look like something.

I think it's a very nice form for a spaceship capable of landing planetside. What will Aliance dreadnought do after landing? Just lie on the ground, nothing more. But Reaper can walk. And I think two legs wouldn't be enough for that

Modifié par Seival, 06 août 2012 - 10:03 .

[Seival]

...Besides, I think it's logical that Reapers look more like mechanical living beings, rather than spaceships.

[CrutchCricket]

Reapers are constructing Reapers. So they make the new ones in their own image. Why is this a concern?

Besides ME2 seems to suggest the inner workings of a Reaper are made in the image of the species used to make it while the outershell is presumably the cuttlefish design. Organic inside, Reaper outside. It's symbolic to boot.

[Seival]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Reapers are constructing Reapers. So they make the new ones in their own image. Why is this a concern?

Besides ME2 seems to suggest the inner workings of a Reaper are made in the image of the species used to make it while the outershell is presumably the cuttlefish design. Organic inside, Reaper outside. It's symbolic to boot.

Well, the Proto-Reaper could look almost the same way ("small" and human-like) after it would be finally constructed. According to EDI's intel, most Reapers have unique design.

[Seival]

By the way, I hope BioWare will add more unique-looking reapers in future DLCs. At least as a part of final battle movies.

[Seival]

...And other races' hasks will also be interesting. I think it will be nice if some of future DLCs could introduce Salarian, Elcor, Hanar, Vorcha, and Volus hasks. And maybe even Yahg hasks.

[Ageless Face]

Seival wrote...

By the way, I hope BioWare will add more unique-looking reapers in future DLCs. At least as a part of final battle movies.

Yeah, I hopes so too.





I WANT A FEMALE REAPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DirtyPhoenix]

Seival wrote...

I think it's a very nice form for a spaceship capable of landing planetside. What will Aliance dreadnought do after landing? Just lie on the ground, nothing more. But Reaper can walk. And I think two legs wouldn't be enough for that

Alliance dreadnoughts can't land planetside if I'm not wrong. They are constructed off-planet and must always remain so. Anybody confirm?