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[Seival]

Here (I did what I could... don't have much time right now):





Is the small one readable enough compared to the large one? If not - I'll have to do completely new small one. 

Modifié par Seival, 28 mai 2012 - 08:56 .

[Baa Baa]

Not really a supporter of Control but these are good banners being posted.

[Ageless Face]

Vox Draco wrote...

Yes, you are basing everything on the ending ALONE, which I consider to not be enough to take into consideration in a game-series many hours long. It is not delusional, it is merely selective. If you take everything you know up to this point about the Reapers, control and synthesis are left to be the most risky options to take. It may turn out for the good, but there is no guarantee, and past experience with the REapers way of thinking what is "positive" it is more unlikely. Same with destroy, of course. But not to the same degree, at least as far as I am concerned...

And, on a side-note: Every one of my Femsheps except one (she got "turian fever") have always romanced Kaidan as well. And picking destroy might even allow her to see him for real again, not just as a last scene before she is vaporized forever. At least all my hopes are with the EC to show us this. No amount of headcanoning control would ever beat seeing Shepard holding her LI again in her arms, it would crush all other options into the dust for me, no matter what Bioware thinks is better or paragon...

Yet the ending is giving us a hole new prespective on the reapers. They are not the individual platforms we always assumed they are, but only tools. Why is it different now, I don't know. Possibly bad writing, or that it can make some sort of sense in the game, and we don't see it yet and hopefully it'll be fixed in the EC. But all in all, we are giving new information. The barely five minutes of cutscene with the catalsyt is changing everything. Again, it's understanable if you don't buy to it. But we do. We think control has the best to offer us, even if you think otherwise. So it's obvious we tend to believe the catalyst.

The ending and the series are kind of oppoosing each other. So for most it falls into believing one, raerly both the catalyst and the series. We are not being selective anymore than you are in that aspect. Your selctiveness mearly have more basics to it than ours.

And on your side note: First, there are always the Thane's Jacob's faithfulls, Liaramancers, Traynor's fans, and Kelly's. Just pointing it out...

Anyway, I understand what you mean with reunite with the romance. However, how much I loved Kaidan and Shepard as a couple, I still played the game for seeing Shepard saving the galaxy. While all the options are aving the galaxy, control seems the best choice to me. And if I agree with the choice, then no matter how much I want to see the squadmates, I will still go for what I believe.

And besides, I think Shepard's death was beautifully tragic and heroic. And once I started to think about it in this way... I can live without a reunion.

[MerchantGOL]

HagarIshay wrote...

Yet the ending is giving us a hole new prespective on the reapers. They are not the individual platforms we always assumed they are, but only tools. 

Were did you get that? just because they have a leader, that issues them orders dosen't mean they are no long indivudal platforms, it didn't even change in this game because the Reaper on rannoch wasn't just some hive mind, it was still an individual.

Modifié par MerchantGOL, 28 mai 2012 - 09:03 .

[Seival]

Hmm... Looks like signature scales automatically... Maybe middle one will be nice enough if you have little space left:

[Seival]

Baa Baa wrote...

Not really a supporter of Control but these are good banners being posted.

Thanks, it's good to hear that my work was appreciated

...I'm not a fan of Destroy Ending, but I think I'll create similar banners for Destroy Ending support thread, when I have time.

Modifié par Seival, 28 mai 2012 - 09:10 .

[Vox Draco]

Seival wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Not really a supporter of Control but these are good banners being posted.

Thanks, it's good to hear that my work was appreciated:)

...I'm not a fan of Destroy Ending, but I think I'll create similar banners for Destroy Ending support thread, when I have time.

Please in red, but with the paragon-symbol, would be the most fitting

[CroGamer002]

Seival wrote...

Here (I did what I could... don't have much time right now):





Is the small one readable enough compared to the large one? If not - I'll have to do completely new small one. 

Thank you, though apparently my sig decided to be jerk and say that banner is too small in height.

[Seival]

Mesina2 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Here (I did what I could... don't have much time right now):





Is the small one readable enough compared to the large one? If not - I'll have to do completely new small one. 

Thank you, though apparently my sig decided to be jerk and say that banner is too small in height.

No problem

You may try to move other signatures a little if it's still possible. Also, maybe the middle one will fit better:

[Daverid]

This is great

Personally I think that out of the 3 control is the one that makes the most sense... I find the whole Shepard Alive with enough EMS to be complete rubbish. If shepard is going to sacrifice himself then doing so to control the most powerful force in the galaxy makes the most sense. This is if course all if you discount the IT which I personally believe in, but taking endings as they are, control is defs the best.

I think the EC will render Control pointless because if they actually did listen to the fans then there'll surely be an ending where Shepard fully survives and comes home, so that'll be the option over Control any day.

But as the endings stand, control gives the galaxy the 'most' hope. Shepard and TIM talks were always about how TIM could control the reapers and use it for humanity but all along he was weak and indoctrinated, Shepard on the other hand survived through everything and he alone has the power to control reapers responsibly for the benefit of the whole galaxy . He can safeguard, un-indoctrinate, rebuild the mass relays, share millions of years of technology and help the galaxy expand further.

It's the best option IMO out of the current 3 as they stand

[CroGamer002]

Well, I tried this with my sig.

James is barely visible now, but this is best I could do for now.



Again, thanks for that banner.

[Uncle Jo]

Seival wrote...


...Do you remember how the Catalist looked at the Shepard when she grabbed the Control Rods second time? Its Avatar's transparent face showed true respect and wonderment at the same time. 

You serious?

He looked at him/her and was just waiting till (s)he commits suicide, then laughed his ass off, thinking "Don't tell me... No wait... (s)he really did buy it? Never thought it would work..."

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 28 mai 2012 - 09:26 .

[CroGamer002]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Seival wrote...


...Do you remember how the Catalist looked at the Shepard when she grabbed the Control Rods second time? Its Avatar's transparent face showed true respect and wonderment at the same time. 

You serious?

He looked at him/her and was just waiting till (s)he commits suicide, then laughed his ass off, thinking "Don't tell me... No wait... (s)he really did buy it? Never thought it would work..."

Sorry Uncle Jo, but Catalyst is too stupid for that.

Modifié par Mesina2, 28 mai 2012 - 09:29 .

[Seival]

Daverid wrote...

This is great

Personally I think that out of the 3 control is the one that makes the most sense... I find the whole Shepard Alive with enough EMS to be complete rubbish. If shepard is going to sacrifice himself then doing so to control the most powerful force in the galaxy makes the most sense. This is if course all if you discount the IT which I personally believe in, but taking endings as they are, control is defs the best.

I think the EC will render Control pointless because if they actually did listen to the fans then there'll surely be an ending where Shepard fully survives and comes home, so that'll be the option over Control any day.

But as the endings stand, control gives the galaxy the 'most' hope. Shepard and TIM talks were always about how TIM could control the reapers and use it for humanity but all along he was weak and indoctrinated, Shepard on the other hand survived through everything and he alone has the power to control reapers responsibly for the benefit of the whole galaxy . He can safeguard, un-indoctrinate, rebuild the mass relays, share millions of years of technology and help the galaxy expand further.

It's the best option IMO out of the current 3 as they stand

EC will not make Control pointless. In Control ending Shepard will not survive as a human being, and will not be able to "come home" and reunite with her love interest of course. But she will take full control of the Reapers, and stop the slaughter without killing anyone (this is the most important point of Control)... Shepard becomes a new Catalist, and it's even better then survive as a human being (and this is the second important point of Control).

Modifié par Seival, 28 mai 2012 - 09:39 .

[Seival]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Seival wrote...


...Do you remember how the Catalist looked at the Shepard when she grabbed the Control Rods second time? Its Avatar's transparent face showed true respect and wonderment at the same time. 

You serious?

He looked at him/her and was just waiting till (s)he commits suicide, then laughed his ass off, thinking "Don't tell me... No wait... (s)he really did buy it? Never thought it would work..."

Catalist has no reason to lie to Shepard. Control means Control. Catalist could left Shepard to die, but instead it saved her life, and admitted that its "solution" doesn't work anymore. So it was true respect and wonderment on its face.

[Jadebaby]

Seival wrote...

It's not time for anger or hate! It's time to show BioWare some support dedicated to upcoming ME3 Extended Cut, and in my case to some particular ending. All Control Ending fans, UNITE! 

What's paragon got to do with Control?

Also, wasn't "So the Illusive Man was right after all" a question?

Hence appearing on the subtitles "So the Illusive Man was right after all?"

Can someone confirm/deny this?

[Jadebaby]

Seival wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Seival wrote...


...Do you remember how the Catalist looked at the Shepard when she grabbed the Control Rods second time? Its Avatar's transparent face showed true respect and wonderment at the same time. 

You serious?

He looked at him/her and was just waiting till (s)he commits suicide, then laughed his ass off, thinking "Don't tell me... No wait... (s)he really did buy it? Never thought it would work..."

Catalist has no reason to lie to Shepard. Control means Control. Catalist could left Shepard to die, but instead it saved her life, and admitted that its "solution" doesn't work anymore. So it was true respect and wonderment on its face.

The Catalyst... The leader of the main antagonistic group over the three game series.. And you believe it's just gonna be straight up with Shepard?
How do you rationalize Shepards eyes turning into The Illusive Man's when she burns to a crisp holding the handles?

[MerchantGOL]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Seival wrote...

It's not time for anger or hate! It's time to show BioWare some support dedicated to upcoming ME3 Extended Cut, and in my case to some particular ending. All Control Ending fans, UNITE! 

What's paragon got to do with Control?

you take the entire buden onto your self to stop the conflict.


Synthisis involve sacrafice too but it also involves taking choice away from the rest of the galaxy

and destroy is the eptimy of a Renagade choice.

[MerchantGOL]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Seival wrote...


...Do you remember how the Catalist looked at the Shepard when she grabbed the Control Rods second time? Its Avatar's transparent face showed true respect and wonderment at the same time. 

You serious?

He looked at him/her and was just waiting till (s)he commits suicide, then laughed his ass off, thinking "Don't tell me... No wait... (s)he really did buy it? Never thought it would work..."

Catalist has no reason to lie to Shepard. Control means Control. Catalist could left Shepard to die, but instead it saved her life, and admitted that its "solution" doesn't work anymore. So it was true respect and wonderment on its face.

The Catalyst... The leader of the main antagonistic group over the three game series.. And you believe it's just gonna be straight up with Shepard?

The reapers have never lied about what they are or what they plan to do. Their machines that is some thing that every one keeps forgetting.

How do you rationalize Shepards eyes turning into The Illusive Man's when she burns to a crisp holding the handles?

Shepard has implants.

[Zardoc]

Power corrupts.
Control offers absolute power.
Control corrupts absolutely.

Seems like you lose. Thanks for playing, try again next time.

[Seival]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Seival wrote...

It's not time for anger or hate! It's time to show BioWare some support dedicated to upcoming ME3 Extended Cut, and in my case to some particular ending. All Control Ending fans, UNITE! 

What's paragon got to do with Control?

Also, wasn't "So the Illusive Man was right after all" a question?

Hence appearing on the subtitles "So the Illusive Man was right after all?"

Can someone confirm/deny this?

Control is TRUE Paragon Ending, because:

In Control ending Shepard will not survive as a human being, and will not be able to "come home" and reunite with her love interest of course. But she will take full control of the Reapers, and stop the slaughter without killing anyone (this is the most important point of Control)... Shepard becomes a new Catalist, and it's even better then survive as a human being (and this is the second important point of Control).

Sorry for "caps", but:
CONTROL IS THE HONORABLE SACRIFICE FOR A GREATER GOOD. SHEPARD SACRIFICES JUST HERSELF TO SAVE EVERYONE ELSE... INSTEAD OF SACRIFICING A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR THE UNKNOWN FUTURE.

[Bill Casey]

Seival wrote...

In Control ending Shepard will not survive as a human being, and will not be able to "come home" and reunite with her love interest of course. But she will take full control of the Reapers, and stop the slaughter without killing anyone (this is the most important point of Control)... Shepard becomes a new Catalist, and it's even better then survive as a human being (and this is the second important point of Control).

Sorry for "caps", but:
CONTROL IS THE HONORABLE SACRIFICE FOR A GREATER GOOD. SHEPARD SACRIFICES JUST HERSELF TO SAVE EVERYONE ELSE... INSTEAD OF SACRIFICING A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR THE UNKNOWN FUTURE.

I don't believe that...
Like at all...
It's too stupid...

[MerchantGOL]

Zardoc wrote...

Power corrupts.
Control offers absolute power.
Control corrupts absolutely.

Seems like you lose. Thanks for playing, try again next time.

Power can corrupt it is not a garuntee, and you are foolish to think no one has the stregnth of character resist such a thing.

[Seival]

Zardoc wrote...

Power corrupts.
Control offers absolute power.
Control corrupts absolutely.

Seems like you lose. Thanks for playing, try again next time.

It looks like you just ignored this picture:

[Vox Draco]

MerchantGOL wrote...
and destroy is the eptimy of a Renagade choice.

Risking the entire galaxy on mere assumptions made by the enemy is...ah well...I get repetitive, sorry.

The endings are no longer paragon/renegade for me anyway. It is about believing the enemy, or believing your own experiences. Do you believe in the logic of an age-old machine, or will you rather keep your human point of view on the matter? Are you willing to give up your flesh, and thereby confirming the Reaper's thinking that flesh is weak? Or will you rather keep your body (I think that's more or less a direct Shepard-quote?) and prove the Reapers humanity can do it on its own, without meddling of self-proclaimed higher beings...

I guess I am not ready for control, because I think humnity and every other organic race is far superior to the Reapers, and we don't need them and their solutions at all, but thank you for the effort, Mr. Catalyst. Now die...